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Obama’s Media Allies Struggle To Conceal Red Mentor
Western Journalism ^ | October 20, 2012 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 10/20/2012 7:23:14 PM PDT by george76

A liberal writer named Elspeth Reeve, who writes for “The Atlantic” magazine, frets that Barack Obama’s relationship to Communist Party member Frank Marshall Davis is getting more attention from voters and may constitute an “October surprise” that dooms the President’s re-election chances. She calls Davis only an “alleged communist” when in fact he was a card-carrying CPUSA member with a 600-page FBI file.

Her story goes further downhill from there, clearly suggesting that Obama’s media backers are worried and desperate to conceal the truth.

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The cover-up is getting more intense as Election Day approaches.

Paul Kengor now draws our attention to the fact that Obama’s audio version of Dreams from My Father has omitted every reference to “Frank” that was in the book.

(Excerpt) Read more at westernjournalism.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Hawaii; US: Illinois; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: communist; frankmarshalldavis; naturalborncitizen; obama
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1 posted on 10/20/2012 7:23:18 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76

What does the left care? Today’s Democratic party is nothing but a clown car full of communist advocates.


2 posted on 10/20/2012 7:28:38 PM PDT by NoobRep
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To: george76

Not only was he a Communist he was a pornographer, and more than likely Obama’s daddy.


3 posted on 10/20/2012 7:33:15 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: george76
They're FINALLY talkin' about this guy...
Thank you "2016" via Dinesh D'souza...

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FMDAvis_1

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What about this guy....??

KMarx_2

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Add a heavy dose of this guy...!!

Bayers_1

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THIS IS WHAT YOU GET!!!!!!!!!!!

Bam_Vision2

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THIS will all come back on the MSM press who REFUSED their Fourth Estate duties to tell us the truth...
And vet Barack Hussein Obama during his meteoric rise to POTUS between 2004 and 2008...

History will tell us the truth...

More than a few suck-up sycophant journ-o-list types need to be firedddddd!!!!!!!!!

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I hope everyone has a good weekend... :-)

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4 posted on 10/20/2012 7:33:31 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: george76

The media might as well try to cover for his admitted Muslim Faith.


5 posted on 10/20/2012 7:33:44 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: george76

Get ready It’s coming. Rock solid proof that Obamas real father is Communist Party USA propagandist Frank Marshall Davis.

Follow this link: http://www.obamasrealfather.com/

Watch the trailer and you will spend the $14.95 for the DVD. After watching the first five minutes you will beleive as I do that Davis is Obamas real father. Warning: By the twenty minute mark you will want to puke just like I did. I got the DVD in last Tuesday watched and started passing it around to friends with the same reaction from all. I hope I am right about the October surprise.


6 posted on 10/20/2012 7:34:19 PM PDT by cquiggy
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To: george76

The desire of the ‘progressives’ is to have FORWARD progress toward communism/socialism/Marxism. Communism is/was their far horizon that is now within arm’s reach with Barry, so why the upset?


7 posted on 10/20/2012 7:35:21 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: george76
Before I gave a speech on the subject of Davis at the September 21st AIM conference, Paul Kengor, author of a book on Davis, The Communist, told me, “I haven’t received a single media inquiry from anyone in the mainstream media, despite the book making the top 10 on the New York Times’ bestseller list and hitting number 1 in non-fiction on both Amazon and Barnes & Noble.com. Not one reporter from the mainstream media has bothered to contact me…They will do anything to protect Barack Obama. The truth be damned.”

We know the MSM is willing to do 'whatever it takes' to protect Obama but what are they getting in return? It's strange. It's got to be more than the destruction of their credibility with the public...

8 posted on 10/20/2012 7:36:09 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: george76

Frank Marshall Davis was also a confessed child-molestor, who probably molested Obama when he was a boy. That and his dysfunctional family—father and mother who both abandoned him, and grandfather who chose Davis as his “mentor,” knowing very well who Davis was—would account for the fact that Obama is gay. (Not to mention his gay, cross-dressing child-minder in Indonesia.)

Obama was a victim, who suffered grave psychological damage. One might feel sorry for him, if he hadn’t managed to get himself into the White House. We don’t need a gay, narcissistic, clinically insane America-hater running our country, thank you very much.


9 posted on 10/20/2012 7:36:26 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: george76

” -—She calls Davis only an “alleged communist” when in fact he was a card-carrying CPUSA member with a 600-page FBI file.”

Hmmmmmmmmm, - - - a SEALed Binder 600.


10 posted on 10/20/2012 7:38:12 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: george76; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks george76.
A liberal writer named Elspeth Reeve, who writes for "The Atlantic" magazine... calls [Frank Marshall] Davis only an "alleged communist" when in fact he was a card-carrying CPUSA member with a 600-page FBI file.

11 posted on 10/20/2012 7:38:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: george76

BUMP


12 posted on 10/20/2012 7:38:45 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: george76
Considering that at least 50% of 0bama voters don't even know who Paul Ryan is, I don’t think they have to worry too much about their supporters being informed.
13 posted on 10/20/2012 7:39:59 PM PDT by airborne (MY HEROES DON'T WEAR CAPES. MY HEROES WEAR DOG TAGS ! ! !)
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To: cquiggy
Stop peddling that crap...the woman in that DVD is not Stanley Ann Dunham. You've been punked...unless you also believe Paul is really dead and Elvis is really alive.
14 posted on 10/20/2012 7:41:32 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (Muppet season now open - no bag limit)
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To: cquiggy

I received in the mail today, unsolicited, a DVD titled: Dreams from my REAL father, from some unknown org.

Is the same one?......


15 posted on 10/20/2012 7:42:31 PM PDT by Red Badger (Why yes, that was crude and uncalled for.......That's whay I said it..............)
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To: george76

So what? Not a word of it on broadcast TV, the Coprolite Press, or any Romney ad. So who would know about it?


16 posted on 10/20/2012 7:42:39 PM PDT by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: Cicero

Would you then say that Obama is a typical Democrat?


17 posted on 10/20/2012 7:42:39 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: george76
Let me see...how many things is that in Obama's background including where he was born that he wants to conceal? What is it with these dictator types who have these murky backgrounds and never cease to be concealing something about who they really are?

(Example, remember Germany's dictator, the guy named Hitler who was actually born in Austria? Weird and ironic like Obamanation.)

18 posted on 10/20/2012 7:44:24 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: RedMDer
(You're not supposed to be here....you're supposed to be HERE!!)
19 posted on 10/20/2012 7:48:01 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Red Badger

That video is on Netflix. Too bad that the only people who watch it already know the truth.


20 posted on 10/20/2012 7:48:02 PM PDT by gop4lyf (Socialism is the political dream of the unachiever, the excuse maker, and the lazy.)
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To: musicman

ROFLOLOLOL!
See you tomorrow.:)


21 posted on 10/20/2012 8:13:43 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: Red Badger

I think it’s worth watching.


22 posted on 10/20/2012 8:19:25 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: cquiggy

Sorry. Obama looks nothing like frank davis but he looks a whole lot like MALCOLM.X


23 posted on 10/20/2012 8:55:08 PM PDT by South Dakota (shut up and drill)
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To: cquiggy
Rock solid proof that Obamas real father is Communist Party USA propagandist Frank Marshall Davis.

I don't care what's on your video - Frank Marshall Davis was not Barack Obama's father. Obama doesn't resemble FMD any more than he does BHO Sr.

I come from mixed negroid/caucasoid ancestry myself, and I can tell you with utmost certainty, that Obama would look a lot more negroid if either one of those men were his father.

There are photos online of FMD's son and his father. Look at all three of those men together, and see if Obama looks in any way related to them. He doesn't. Not even close.

If one wants to go purely by facial, cranial, and build similarities, Malcolm X is about as close a match as you'll find to Barack Obama (not that I'm trying to make the case for MX being his father).

24 posted on 10/20/2012 9:14:03 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
I grew up around black people, have a lot of black friends. To me, Obama doesn't look altogether black in an American context, typically meaning west African and northern European with perhaps some native American; seems as if there's something else there. The often commented upon coloration of his lips is more characteristic of Pakistani or Indian ancestry. Of course, it's sometimes tough to get a good handle on his appearance since it's pretty variable. I've often speculated that he has doubles like some third world dictator.
25 posted on 10/20/2012 9:22:46 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Wings-n-Wind

“More than a few suck-up sycophant journ-o-list types need to be firedddddd!!!!!!!!!”

As in “burned at the stake”???

I’ve got the wood and the diesel fuel - you bring the matches.


26 posted on 10/20/2012 9:35:06 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: cquiggy

I also purchased the video through WND and was not as surprised that the commie Davis was the real daddy, which anyone without a DNA test can dispute, as I was by the indisputable facts on the video. The involvement of Bill Ayers wealthy and powerful father and his involvement in key moments in the Fraud’s life was a shock to me. Like so many people I knew about the connection to the son, the domestic terrorist Bill Ayers, but had no idea how his father played a pivotal role in grooming the Fraud.

Thomas Ayers was the head of Commonwealth Edison, the huge Illinois power company. He was also a primary force in Chicago politics and the Daly machine. Daly in fact intervened in the Bill Ayers trial and arranged for Ayers and Dorn to get a slap on the wrist for killing the people they did in the bombings they coordinated.

Ayers and his wife helped fund the Fraud’s Harvard education. After graduating he helped The Fraud get his job at high profile Chicago law firm Austin/Sidley.

Ayers was a friend of Frank Marshall Davis.

Yes, the video illustrates the connection between Davis and The Fraud’s mother. Davis was also a pornographer and took pictures of Obambi’s mother. He wrote poems about a sexual tryst with an Anne. It points out the facial and other common characteristics between Davis and The Fraud. One striking unique feature is the moles and age spots on Davis and The Fraud’s face. Like Davis, the older the fraud gets, the more moles and age spots are appearing on his face. I’m convinced Davis is the father.

But outside of that, all the connections between the players in the Fraud’s life indicate a carefully constructed career to place this pompous ass in a position to deliver on the dreams of his real father and the entire socialist movement in America. That’s the chilling part of Joel Gilbert’s film, how this guy was groomed over the last 30 years to be where he is today and doing exactly what he is doing.

It’s incredible how the media has refused to publish the actual facts about the Fraud’s background. Not who his father may or may not be, not whether he was born in Hawaii or not, but the truth about all his connections to socialists and the path they set up for him


27 posted on 10/20/2012 9:37:14 PM PDT by Beatthedrum
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To: george76

Haven’t we run out of hope that 0bama will EVER suffer any consequences from ANY of his treasonous affiliations or activities? For as long as the media which he RUNS exists, he’s safe.


28 posted on 10/20/2012 9:42:56 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: RegulatorCountry
To me, Obama doesn't look altogether black in an American context, typically meaning west African and northern European with perhaps some native American; seems as if there's something else there.

Having grown up around American blacks all my life, I can tell you that there's nothing extraordinary or unusual about Obama's appearance.

People in my own family range from white skinned with light eyes, to dark skinned with hard nappy hair, and everything in between. We've got blondes, redheads, wavy haired, curly haired, freckled faced, and even redskins like me.

There may be something else in Obama's genes, but whatever it is, it doesn't stand out to me. He's a mongrel like the rest of us.

29 posted on 10/20/2012 10:09:33 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
Having grown up around American blacks all my life, I can tell you that there's nothing extraordinary or unusual about Obama's appearance.

Dude, his blue lips. That's NOT an ordinary or usual American black phenotype. It's not even common among Africans and I know a LOT of Africans.
30 posted on 10/20/2012 10:12:01 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Beatthedrum
The first picture is a link to a YouTube video which proves the girl in this DVD is NOT Stanley Ann Dunham...

This image of some other fine DVD's by Director Joel Glbert is a link to a website that contains an in-depth look into Gilbert and Dreams from My Real Father...including an interview with the man who actually owns the home Frank Marshall Davis lived in. All information is sourced and linked where possible.

There is very little truth in Gilbert's "documentary".

Freepers need to crank their skepticism up to 11. This junk is no more credible than "Loose Change".

31 posted on 10/20/2012 10:26:02 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (Muppet season now open - no bag limit)
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To: aruanan
Dude, his blue lips. That's NOT an ordinary or usual American black phenotype. It's not even common among Africans and I know a LOT of Africans.

Meh....a quirk of mixed racial genes. My own lips are just about the same color as Obie's. My ancestry is about equal parts European, African, and Native American. If my family posed in a photo with Obama, he'd fit right in.

Who knows what his actual genetic lineage is? It's a secret he refuses to share. Now, here's one possible explanation for his purple lips:



32 posted on 10/20/2012 10:30:04 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I’m aware there is just as much variability as there is with the white population. I’m white and there are many old black families here who are lighter complected than I am, every eye color, every hair color. The demarcation is more historical and cultural than anything based upon appearance.

Obama still just doesn’t look like an American black person to me, sorry to disagree but he doesn’t. If Obama, Sr. Is his biological father maybe it’s the difference between east and west African, but I doubt that myself.


33 posted on 10/20/2012 10:37:50 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
Obama still just doesn’t look like an American black person to me, sorry to disagree but he doesn’t.

Whatever, dude. All I can tell you is that us black folks in America are mixed with everything under the sun moon and stars. If Zero looks to you like he truly doesn't fit, then I don't know how familiar you really are with black people.

There's really nothing unusual about his physical features.

34 posted on 10/20/2012 11:14:38 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: george76
So ? is this what Donald Trump was talking about of having some important information on Obama coming up next week ?

Or ?

Is Trump just going to counter Gloria Allred's supposed rumored assertions ?
35 posted on 10/21/2012 2:53:34 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: george76

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2948003/posts


36 posted on 10/21/2012 3:03:00 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: South Dakota

The following article that is linked is as important today as it was before the 2008 election. Events and revelations and secrets kept at great cost over the past four years do not detract from the hypothesis:

Is Obama the secret son of Malcolm X?

http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?page_id=284
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If Barack Hussein Obama II is Malcolm X’s biological son and ideological heir, it would uniquely explain the mystery of why he was so generously helped by so many Arab and communist “friends in high places” long before he was a “somebody.”
Malcolm ensured his secret son would learn the ways of Islam, of revolution, tutored by the finest socialist ideologues of his time, and the future, funded by Saudi and Syrian financiers. He would be groomed for leadership, educated and trained to organize the community called the United States of America.”
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37 posted on 10/21/2012 6:20:03 AM PDT by Best and Brightest (So many secrets still. Who is Obama?)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
I do not know why i'm bothering to do this because I don't see false information being spread about Obama as something I should particularly worry about, but I have to inform you that pointing out that Gilbert did some kooky stuff is not very persuasive. The National Enquirer has always done kooky stuff, but then they scooped the world on Monika Lewinsky's blue dress. (If I remember correctly.)

Just because someone has done something kooky in their past does not establish that other work which they have done is also kooky. It is not a persuasive argument.

What *IS* a persuasive argument is proving that someone is intentionally and knowingly lying about information which if known, would renders their entire argument invalid.

The only thing which you and LorenC has presented which I find compelling is the claim that LorenC had found one of the Gilbert pictures (alleged to be Stanley Ann) in a 1958 magazine. If this is true, then it proves that the Gilbert pictures cannot possibly be Stanley Ann.

THAT is your strong trump card. You should play it first. THEN your attacks on the credibility of Gilbert will resonate because they will be reinforced by the proof that Gilbert intentionally and with malice aforethought, lied to his audience.

38 posted on 10/21/2012 8:10:56 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Windflier
Unless some viable method of connecting MalcolmX genetically with Obama exists, it is worse than useless to keep pointing out how similar they look. The world is full of people who look similar but are not related.

The currently known numbers (assuming they are correct) pretty much establishes Stanley Ann as having become Pregnant in November-December of 1960, when she was known to be living in Hawaii. Realistically, MalcolmX was in no position to accommodate her, and if my understanding of his attitudes about his faith are correct, he was not likely to be willing to do so even if an opportunity had presented itself.

39 posted on 10/21/2012 8:21:12 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: humblegunner

On sale now, get ‘em while they’re hot. (But read the entire thread first.)


40 posted on 10/21/2012 8:38:39 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: george76

All of the communist czars in his administration and the Pravda media is still trying to spin the lie that “he didn’t know”.

Stalinists lie. Always.


41 posted on 10/21/2012 8:54:12 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: george76
Paul Kengor now draws our attention to the fact that Obama’s audio version of Dreams from My Father has omitted every reference to “Frank” that was in the book.

So they dumped "Frank" now. The whole story about Barrys early life is a provable lie, just like his later "composite" girlfriend. So is this being sold in the dollar bins in the fiction section?

42 posted on 10/21/2012 9:12:29 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: george76

Maybe Hillary has Frank Davis’ FBI file- She certainly stole enough of them.

Maybe that is the hold she has over Obama.


43 posted on 10/21/2012 10:11:12 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: DiogenesLamp
I do not know why i'm bothering to do this because I don't see false information being spread about Obama as something I should particularly worry about...

Did you watch the new YouTube? Loren has actual physical copies of the original magazines with published dates.

I'm not philosophically opposed to sleazy politics and unproven innuendo. I think what Kevin at Hillbuzz is doing "under the radar" may turn out to be one of the most effective base voter suppression efforts we've seen in a while.

But, if you're going to accuse the President's dead mother of being a soft-core porn model, being wrong has the strong potential of creating a sympathetic backfire. Not to mention, as we see on this thread, it being lumped in with real serious investigative work like 2016 and The Communist in an effort to discredit them all.

And unless you believe Paul is dead and Elvis is alive, these previous works by Joel Gilbert establish his willingness to exploit absurd conspiracies for a few bucks. He has no problem lying.

44 posted on 10/21/2012 10:20:29 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (Muppet season now open - no bag limit)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
Did you watch the new YouTube? Loren has actual physical copies of the original magazines with published dates.

No I have not. I will look for it.

But, if you're going to accuse the President's dead mother of being a soft-core porn model, being wrong has the strong potential of creating a sympathetic backfire.

That is a possibility I have considered, but it appears that the people who would provoke the backfire aren't bothering to watch the movie and be provoked to outrage. I have been listening for a backfire, but apparently his work is so widely and instantly dismissed as to be incapable of producing one.

Another possibility is that those on the left who would produce a backfire may be so frightened of drawing attention to the movie that they are keeping silent.

Not to mention, as we see on this thread, it being lumped in with real serious investigative work like 2016 and The Communist in an effort to discredit them all.

Yes, I agree. Lying about facts just gives Liberals cause to dismiss other information which is actually true.

And unless you believe Paul is dead and Elvis is alive, these previous works by Joel Gilbert establish his willingness to exploit absurd conspiracies for a few bucks. He has no problem lying.

That is but one explanation. I have worked in the conservative movement for many decades and I am very well aware that there are good conservatives who believe all sorts of kooky crazy things. (The Kennedy Assassination stuff among them) I know Doctors, Lawyers, Engineers, and Army Officers, etc that believe all manner of nonsense but they are perfectly functional in all other aspects.

I do not automatically discount an otherwise functional person's information and opinion because they believe a lot of utterly silly crap. (Such as the New World Order conspiracy.)

In the case of Gilbert though, it appears he crosses the line between gathering and relaying information, and knowingly falsifying the truth for his own political reasons or personal gain.

Apparently he has no problem lying... To us, his audience.

45 posted on 10/21/2012 10:43:46 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Unless some viable method of connecting MalcolmX genetically with Obama exists, it is worse than useless to keep pointing out how similar they look. The world is full of people who look similar but are not related.

Obama's DNA could be compared to Malcolm X's living children, but we know that's never going to happen.

As far as the theory that MX could be Obama's father, I think it holds as much water as any other theory. Per what I've read of Stanley Ann Dunham's history, she was in the same vicinity as Malcolm X for a brief period, at least nine months prior to Obama's birth. That possible connection has been explored here many times.

I take your point that totally unrelated people can strongly resemble each other, but that's really a rare occurrence, and shouldn't be used to try to prove that Obama isn't related to MX. Factually, most people bear a stronger resemblance to their parents than most others in the general population.

No, resemblance between two people isn't proof positive that they're related, but it can definitely weigh as circumstantial evidence that they are, in cases such as this. This is why you're going to continue to hear people bring up MX as a likely candidate for Obama's real father.

46 posted on 10/21/2012 11:06:30 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

I’ll pass.
I find sufficient material for which to dislike Obama among those facts that are known.

I find no need to delve into the speculatory realm.


47 posted on 10/21/2012 11:29:54 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: GOPJ
Re: “What are the MSM getting in return?”

I think you see this “transaction” backwards.

The MSM is not the propaganda wing of the Democratic Party.

Exactly the reverse.

The Democratic Party and Barack Obama are the political wing of the MSM.

The MSM has the political power and the Hard Left political agenda.

The American MSM also has the most passionate, most creative, most skilled, and most highly paid political activists in world history.

As long as Obama competently serves THEIR political vision, they will back him.

48 posted on 10/21/2012 1:40:43 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen
The MSM is not the propaganda wing of the Democratic Party.

Exactly the reverse.

And this begs the question - who is paying the MSM? Because that is where the real power resides. The media doesn't "have" money. It's paid money, either via direct injection from Soros, Arabs, or through advertisers.

MacDonald's doesn't have to pay the obamacare tax, and GE pays very little in taxes at all. I know they both advertise. I've seen their ads on those same networks which tell us that obama is the light and the way, and that Romney "lied" about Benghazi.

49 posted on 10/21/2012 1:53:19 PM PDT by Sirius Lee
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To: NoobRep

“What does the left care? Today’s Democratic party is nothing but a clown car full of communist advocates.”

Correction: Today’s Democratic party is nothing but a clown car full of murdering, lying, subversive, communist scu*bags.

IMHO


50 posted on 10/21/2012 4:13:14 PM PDT by ripley
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