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2C-I or 'Smiles': The New Killer Drug Every Parent Should Know About
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Posted on 09/21/2012 7:16:55 AM PDT by nuconvert

Witnesses described the 17-year-old boy as "shaking, growling, foaming at the mouth." According to police reports, Elijah Stai was at a McDonald's with his friend when he began to feel ill. Soon after, he "started to smash his head against the ground" and began acting "possessed," according to a witness. Two hours later, he had stopped breathing

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ci; deadlydrug; drug; drugs; drugwar; druwar; hallucinations; health; medicine; smiles; syntheticdrug; warondrugs; wod; wodlist; wosd

1 posted on 09/21/2012 7:17:01 AM PDT by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert

Wonderful...So when Walter White gets waxxed, Jesse Pinkman can continue on for a few more seasons with this little concoction.


2 posted on 09/21/2012 7:20:13 AM PDT by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: Michael Barnes

hmmm...I guess if I knew who those people were, it would make sense.


3 posted on 09/21/2012 7:24:39 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

Darwin wins again.


4 posted on 09/21/2012 7:38:52 AM PDT by moovova
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To: nuconvert

bttt


5 posted on 09/21/2012 7:39:00 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little. EdmondBurke)
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To: nuconvert

I don’t understand today’s generation. Back in my day, we did drugs that made you feel good.


6 posted on 09/21/2012 7:46:04 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: ZX12R

HA!


7 posted on 09/21/2012 7:50:26 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: nuconvert

ping


8 posted on 09/21/2012 7:51:12 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: nuconvert

I can’t help but wonder if we wouldn’t have been better off just letting the druggies have their pot 50 years ago. Regulate it, and keep them from hurting themselves or others and let them burn out.

Instead we have far, far worse drugs today that we can’t even control, organized crime worse than prohibition, and far more death and destruction.

The older I get, the more I think our cure is worse than the original disease.


9 posted on 09/21/2012 7:52:33 AM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: ZX12R

***I don’t understand today’s generation. Back in my day, we did drugs that made you feel good.***

Feel good? Back in my days of the 1960s and ‘70s I remember many people who ODd on LSD and other drugs. Several famous actors died of the stuff back then, and several locals also died, one who was huffing gas.

I have NEVER tried any drugs. I never felt a need for it.


10 posted on 09/21/2012 7:55:00 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: nuconvert

I like to think that as a teenager I would not have touched such a drug. I’ve always been a very cautious individual. Aside from a bicycle accident at age 10 (just some scratches but painful nevertheless). I’ve never been injured. I never took stupid chances. No big secret to it.


11 posted on 09/21/2012 7:58:52 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: ZX12R

An unintended consequence of the WOD

The equivalent illegal drugs cost more than gold so kids and poor people end up trying the unknown drugs that are still legal. They are sold as bath salts, inscence, etc and are all labeled “not for human consumption.

Most of these “legal” drugs are far more damaging, cause more impairment and are more addictive than the illegal ones they mean to replace.


12 posted on 09/21/2012 7:59:33 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: nuconvert

These People that are selling this crap to our kids should get the death penalty.

Think about the amount of lives that have been destroyed by the illegal drug trade and the expense it take to care for these abusers.


13 posted on 09/21/2012 8:10:17 AM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: varyouga
An unintended consequence of the WOD

Yeah but as long as we dont have hoards of zombie stoners breaking into houses and rapin' the women folk it is all worth it right? s/

14 posted on 09/21/2012 8:13:22 AM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: ZX12R

Yeah, at least what I remember of those days


15 posted on 09/21/2012 8:23:32 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Hopey changey Low emission unicorns and a crap sandwich)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

If you meant to suggest that anyone ever died as a direct result of OD’ing on LSD, I’d love to have a citation to that case since, so far as I know, it’s about physically impossible. I’m not suggesting it’s good for you or harmless but I’m just asking, perhaps I misread your response.


16 posted on 09/21/2012 8:26:42 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Hopey changey Low emission unicorns and a crap sandwich)
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To: muir_redwoods

People have put themselves in some dangerous situations due to LSD. Art Linkletter’s daughter Diane walked out her sixth story kitchen’s window while at UCLA.


17 posted on 09/21/2012 8:37:47 AM PDT by windcliff
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To: RightOnTheBorder
Yeah but as long as we dont have hoards of zombie stoners breaking into houses and rapin' the women folk it is all worth it right? s/

Stoners don't break into houses or commit rape. They pretty much watch TV, listen to music, and make an occasional trip to Jack-in-the-Box. And they don't get into car accidents either, because they never drive over 40 mph.
18 posted on 09/21/2012 8:44:46 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: windcliff

People drive drunk, too. What’s your point?


19 posted on 09/21/2012 9:07:01 AM PDT by Scarlet Pimpernel (And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?)
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To: muir_redwoods

I don’t know of anyone dying from an OD on LSD, but I personally know of two LSD users that blew their brains out with a gun. Both had suffered flashbacks.


20 posted on 09/21/2012 9:16:23 AM PDT by MCF
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To: OldPossum
I like to think that as a teenager I would not have touched such a drug.

Some of the things people are putting into their bodies nowadays are, simply put, poisons and toxins, not drugs.

Some poisons are just that, poisons, and have no recreational value. Someone who imbibes them will do immediate, permanent, severe damage to their body and mind.

Now, the fact that someone can take a product like bath salts and ruin their lives with it in a single dose, doesn't mean that bath salts should be banned, any more than gasoline.

Poison is poison. Kids nowadays seem like infants, they'll just put anything into their mouth, regardless of the dangers. It's insanity and it speaks to a level of hopelessness which society shouldn't be encouraging.

There are any number of these toxins sitting around in society. Why can't kids be taught to look before they leap? Why can't they be raised to educate themselves before undertaking such self-destructive acts?

I mean, hell, for all I know, downing a spoonful of plutonium might make you have an intense trip, but is it worth it?

21 posted on 09/21/2012 9:20:02 AM PDT by sargon
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To: MCF
I don’t know of anyone dying from an OD on LSD, but I personally know of two LSD users that blew their brains out with a gun. Both had suffered flashbacks.

I know of several alcoholics who blew their brains (or even somebody elses) out with a gun while under the influence. None, as far as I know, had suffered flashbacks...

22 posted on 09/21/2012 9:23:31 AM PDT by sargon
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To: OldPossum
I never took stupid chances. No big secret to it

That's it in a nutshell, and the lesson I've taught my kids. 'Don't do drugs' is too specific. IMHO, the better message is 'Don't do stupid crap'.

Like ingesting/smoking or inhaling anything unless you know what it is AND what it will do, playing chicken with cars, licking brightly colored toads....that sort of thing.

:-)

23 posted on 09/21/2012 9:27:40 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as Created by the Laws of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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To: MCF

Sadly, I know of three people, drug free, who did the same thing


24 posted on 09/21/2012 9:54:41 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Hopey changey Low emission unicorns and a crap sandwich)
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To: Scarlet Pimpernel

Don’t get so high that you can hurt yourself by being less aware. It’s hard living with poor judgement. I live in Los Angeles and I try to stay cautious just walking on the sidewalk sober.


25 posted on 09/21/2012 10:31:29 AM PDT by windcliff
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To: sargon
Some of the things people are putting into their bodies nowadays are, simply put, poisons and toxins, not drugs. Some poisons are just that, poisons, and have no recreational value.

Wait just a minute - anticancer drugs are poisons - they target cells that are dividing and so the fast growing cancer tissues are more susceptible than slow growing cells.

Same with some drugs for cardiac arrythmias - they poison pacemaker cells so as to allow only one cell to be the pace-setter and re-establish sinus rythym.

So technically, you are incorrect, poisons can be drugs and the other way around.

26 posted on 09/21/2012 10:49:20 AM PDT by corkoman (Release the Palin!)
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To: chrisser

I can’t help but wonder if we wouldn’t have been better off just letting the druggies have their pot 50 years ago.


If/when pot is legal, we will hear the same arguments for legalizing heroin and cocaine.

Although I believe free, abet stupid people should be able to kill themselves with whatever they choose, I don’t want to support them and their families as they kill themselves.

If we don’t support them, they will turn to crime and there goes the reason for ending the ban on drugs in the first place. Dog chase tail.


27 posted on 09/21/2012 12:12:58 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson
Although I believe free, abet stupid people should be able to kill themselves with whatever they choose, I don’t want to support them and their families as they kill themselves.

If we don’t support them, they will turn to crime

No they won't - no more than alkies do to get their legal-thus-cheap drug. Legalization increases competition among suppliers, thus lowering price.

28 posted on 09/21/2012 1:42:11 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: chrisser
I can’t help but wonder if we wouldn’t have been better off just letting the druggies have their pot 50 years ago. Regulate it, and keep them from hurting themselves or others and let them burn out.

Instead we have far, far worse drugs today that we can’t even control, organized crime worse than prohibition, and far more death and destruction.

The older I get, the more I think our cure is worse than the original disease.

That's supposed to happen with age - it's called "wisdom." :-)

29 posted on 09/21/2012 1:45:42 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

The price of drugs is way beyong the drug.

It’s wrecked souls, minds and bodies wrecking the souls, minds and bodies of all who come under their sphere.

Who is going to pay for their housing and food while they live high until they die? Who is going to house, feed and raise their offspring and fix the abuse they have suffered under the high ones? Who is going to imprision them when their highnesses kills and harms others as they live by their wrecked souls and minds?

If only the cost of drugs was the weed or the chemicals.


30 posted on 09/21/2012 2:20:51 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

Everyone handles drugs differently. Some use casually, some abuse drugs. Mankind has been using drugs for millenia. Prohibition leads to black market, untaxed money. Lots of it. At the very least, it should be an issue state legislatures deal with, not the Feds.


31 posted on 09/21/2012 2:23:43 PM PDT by EndtheFed
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To: SaraJohnson
Although I believe free, abet stupid people should be able to kill themselves with whatever they choose, I don’t want to support them and their families as they kill themselves.

If we don’t support them, they will turn to crime

No they won't - no more than alkies do to get their legal-thus-cheap drug. Legalization increases competition among suppliers, thus lowering price.

The price of drugs is way beyong the drug.

It’s wrecked souls, minds and bodies wrecking the souls, minds and bodies of all who come under their sphere.

Irrelevant to your baseless claim about turning to crime.

Who is going to pay for their housing and food while they live high until they die? Who is going to house, feed and raise their offspring and fix the abuse they have suffered under the high ones? Who is going to imprision them when their highnesses kills and harms others as they live by their wrecked souls and minds?

All questions to also be asked about the drug alcohol. Is the right answer, "Make it illegal"? If not, why is the answer in those other cases, "Keep it illegal"?

32 posted on 09/21/2012 2:30:12 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: RightOnTheBorder; ZX12R
“Yeah but as long as we dont have hoards of zombie stoners breaking into houses and rapin’ the women folk it is all worth it right? s/”

It's ironic that they used such arguments to ban much safer, known and natural drugs. “Cocaine Crazed Negros”, “Reefer Madness”, “Negros talking to white women”, etc.

Now we actually have people going nuts and turning to flesh-eating zombies courtesy of these synthetic drugs that would otherwise never exist if not for the WOD.

They already banned the popular synthetic drugs but replacements were out before the law was even signed. There are potentially an infinite number of compounds that will bend people's minds. We have no clue what they will do to people. http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/07/synthetic-drug-ban/

Recently I was in a grocery store and overheard some kids talking by the ‘potpourri’ section. They heard from friends that certain brands were pot substitutes. They were talking about how real MJ is expensive and you have to smoke more but “a tiny pinch of this gets you f***** up” and “you might get a headache after but it’s not bad”. So sad. If it was my own kids, I would much rather they smoke homegrown MJ than the mystery chemicals and maskers in those potpourri jars.

I said it before and I'll say it again: The WOD will always be a complete failure as long as privacy and freedom exist. And even if those things are taken away, it still cannot be won. Drugs are commonly found in prisons and fascist states like North Korea.

The only way to address drug abuse is to target the problems that cause people to abuse drugs in the first place.

33 posted on 09/21/2012 2:52:41 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: muir_redwoods

***If you meant to suggest that anyone ever died as a direct result of OD’ing on LSD,***

I meant to say that they died of drug problems. Here is a partial list. And this is just actors!

http://cleanandsobernotdead.com/Pages/drugoverdose.html

More.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_drug-related_deaths

Add Bobby Driscoll and Anissa Jones.


34 posted on 09/21/2012 5:39:50 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: muir_redwoods

Add also the wife of Robert Shaw. She died when she mixed pills and liquor to celebrate her play THE EXORCISM. Her death scared so many people the play was cancelled.


35 posted on 09/21/2012 5:43:29 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: nuconvert

Cheap chemicals from China + internet recipes.
Bad news.


36 posted on 09/21/2012 5:53:02 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: chrisser

You’re quite correct of course. But the nanny staters are such control freaks they’d rather have drug gangs in charge of the drug trade than the legitimate free market.


37 posted on 09/21/2012 5:55:38 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I don’t have any doubt drugs are harmful it’s just physically impossible to OD on LSD. A large lab animal, a steer I believe, was given a dose equal to several thousand times the typical human dose and simply went to sleep. It’s not good for you and may well be psychologically harmful but does not appear to be particularly harmful physically.


38 posted on 09/21/2012 6:44:32 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Hopey changey Low emission unicorns and a crap sandwich)
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