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The Most Important Event At Either Convention
Townhall.com ^ | September 11, 2012 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 09/11/2012 6:10:20 AM PDT by Kaslin

The most important event at either national convention was the "vote" taken by the Democratic delegates on a last-minute resolution to reinsert the words "God" and "Jerusalem" into the Democratic Party platform.

Regarding God, since Karl Marx, the aim of the left, everywhere on Earth, has been a godless society. And the Democratic Party has evolved over the last half century from a liberal party into a leftist one -- so much so that it is now indistinguishable from any of the leftist parties in Western Europe.

Yes, Franklin D. Roosevelt was a left-wing president -- as concerned the size of the state and its role in the economy. That is of great importance, of course. But an ever-expanding state is only half of the left's agenda. A thoroughly secular society is the other half. And in that regard, Franklin Roosevelt was no man of the Left. He regularly spoke of the need to defend and preserve "Christian civilization" and of the centrality of the Bible and religion to American life.

Here are three representative statements by FDR:

"On this day -- this American holiday -- we are celebrating the rights of free laboring men and women. The preservation of these rights is vitally important now, not only to us who enjoy them but to the whole future of Christian civilization" (Labor Day, September 1, 1941).

"We guard against the forces of anti-Christian aggression . . ." (Madison Square Garden, Oct. 28, 1940).

"The world is too small to provide adequate "living room" for both Hitler and God. In proof of that, the Nazis have now announced their plan for enforcing their new German, pagan religion all over the world -- a plan by which the Holy Bible and the Cross of Mercy would be displaced by Mein Kampf and the swastika and the naked sword" (State of the Union Address, January 6, 1942).

However, by the mid-1960s, to speak of militantly atheistic Communism's threat to Judeo-Christian civilization the way Roosevelt spoke of the Nazi threat to it was to invite left-wing mockery. "Godless communism" was dismissed as laughable.

So, it is not surprising that whereas previous Democratic Party platforms all contained references to God, the 2012 party platform committee voted to remove any such reference.

The 2008 Democratic Party platforms had included this sentence:

"We need a government that stands up for the hopes, values and interests of working people, and gives everyone willing to work hard the chance to make the most of their God-given potential."

Obviously the removable of only the words "God-given" was deliberate. The question is, why?

The answer is simple: America's left wants a godless society here in the United States, just as Europe's left has created such a society there -- and the Democratic Party is run by the left. To anyone who watched or just heard the "vote" among the ones on the floor of the convention, it was clear as day that at least half of the Democratic delegates wanted the words "God-given" and the reference to Jerusalem as Israel's capital to stay out of the party platform.

Democrats and liberals respond that the charge that the left aims to establish a godless America is a calumny because millions of Democrats believe in God. Indeed, the delegate who introduced the resolution, former Ohio governor Ted Strickland, introduced himself as an ordained minister of the United Methodist church.

But this response is a non-sequitur. The fact that tens of millions of Democrats and liberals (though relatively few leftists) believe in God is unrelated to the fact -- I repeat, fact - that the left wants a godless society.

Why, then, do many God-fearing Americans support a party and movement dedicated to removing God from as much of American life as possible? Because they are naive about the left.

The removal of the reference to Jerusalem as Israel's capital was equally revealing and significant. The left thinks that Israel is just as responsible as -- and often more responsible than -- the Palestinians and other Arabs and Muslims are for the Middle East conflict, and the United States must therefore be scrupulously neutral between Israel and its enemies as if there is a moral symmetry between them.

And finally, the convention vote itself was revealing. The blatant lie -- enacted in front of a national audience no less -- that two thirds of the delegates voted "aye" for the resolution was a classic example of how the left behaves when in power.

In his address to the Democratic convention, former President Bill Clinton noted that even a broken clock is right twice a day.

What is true for a broken clock, however, is not true for a broken moral compass.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 09/11/2012 6:10:24 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

The MSM made sure that very few know about this


2 posted on 09/11/2012 6:16:16 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: GeronL

I saw it mentioned only on FOX.


3 posted on 09/11/2012 6:19:23 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: Kaslin

They denied God three times before the Clinton crowed.


4 posted on 09/11/2012 6:19:54 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: Kaslin

He’s wrong about Israel. The commies believe Israel is the problem and should be pushed into the sea.

Pray for America


5 posted on 09/11/2012 6:25:12 AM PDT by bray (If you vote for a communist what does that make you?)
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To: Kaslin

Where are the SuperPac ads about this?!?!? EVERYONE needs to see the video of what happened at the despicable DNC convention..

This would be Swiftboat x 10, what the hell are they waiting for???


6 posted on 09/11/2012 6:27:16 AM PDT by HailReagan78
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To: apocalypto

I think CSPAN and NBC were supposedly airing it live weren’t they? Then the networks pretended it didn’t happen


7 posted on 09/11/2012 6:28:00 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Kaslin

“...to speak of militantly atheistic Communism’s threat to Judeo-Christian civilization the way Roosevelt spoke of the Nazi threat to it was to invite left-wing mockery. “Godless communism” was dismissed as laughable.”

Liberals have subverted the functional idiom of our society and so appropriated the American political process. It’s all part of the Liberals’ shameful and incessant bullying of Americans and their mindless slander of American traditions. It’s been an ongoing and relentless campaign to misrepresent the near infallable, long-held, universally envied and time tested pragmatism which defines and empowers our system.

“Formerly no one was allowed to think freely; now it is permitted, but no one is capable of it any more. Now people want to think only what they are supposed to want to think, and this they consider freedom.” Oswald Spengler

ALSO:

‘Because it equates tradition with prejudice, the left finds itself increasingly unable to converse with ordinary people in their common language.’ Christopher Lasch

‘Progressive rhetoric has the effect of concealing social crisis and moral breakdown by presenting them as the birth pangs of a new order.’ Christopher Lasch


8 posted on 09/11/2012 6:31:58 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: SMARTY

-— “Formerly no one was allowed to think freely; now it is permitted, but no one is capable of it any more. Now people want to think only what they are supposed to want to think, and this they consider freedom.” Oswald Spengler ——

Great quotes.

Less of a problem, but nevertheless, a problem for the Right, is a proper understanding of freedom. The libertarian Right equates freedom and license.

Freedom, properly understood, is freedom to do good. To serve the truth. This true and uplifting vision appeals to the heart, and is also more likely to motivate our side to get politically active.


9 posted on 09/11/2012 6:43:29 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Kaslin
Just wondering: To what extent there is a cover up re B. Hussein Obama by google, etc. I read a review of "The Amateur" by Edward Klein. The review painted a negative picture of O. A few days later I discovered that none of the terms from that blog showed up on google search, but those of the blog before it and after it did show up. Maybe it is just a coincidence. Below is the link, scroll all the way down the page and click on "August 2012" for comments on O.

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10 posted on 09/11/2012 6:43:56 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: Kaslin

Actually, the blatant lie on the vote was no worse than the GOP’s blatant lie on the rules change vote.


11 posted on 09/11/2012 6:45:29 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: GeronL

My mother had not heard of it. She only watches network news. She was shocked.


12 posted on 09/11/2012 6:52:42 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: HailReagan78

They’re probably waiting a while until people are paying attention before they fire this arrow.

It’s one of the most potent ones in the quiver.


13 posted on 09/11/2012 6:53:28 AM PDT by tractorman (I never miss a chance to tweak a liberal.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

“The libertarian Right equates freedom and license.”

Too true.

Actually the equation is:

No Law without Order, no Freedom without Law.

It ain’t rocket science.

Freedom, to be authentic and thinkable, includes responsibilities.

Insofar as the Left campaigns perpetually to eliminate individuals’ obligations and responsibilities… they compel them into a slavery to the ‘system’.

Regardless of who you call your master, slavery is slavery!

“The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities.” Rand


14 posted on 09/11/2012 6:59:06 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: tractorman

I certainly hope so.. I just fear Romney would take the same approach that McCain did with not using Jeremiah Wright against Obama... So the Super Pacs will have to be the ones doing the damage for us.

Just think how many hapless, lifelong elderly Democrats, who are laboring under the false assumption that their party is still an American party, will not have seen what transpired at the DNC...simply because they dont use the internet and still get all their news from the networks..

We need these ads..


15 posted on 09/11/2012 7:00:49 AM PDT by HailReagan78
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To: Kaslin

We should keep reminding people of this since the media will not. It will sway votes if only covered properly!


16 posted on 09/11/2012 7:00:58 AM PDT by Jane Austen (Boycott the Philadelphia Eagles!)
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To: Kaslin; mickie; flaglady47
Another big reason that "God" was expunged by the Dems in the first place is that the word is considered offensive to those of the Islam pursuasion.....thousands of whose acolytes were milling around Charlotte holding prayer services......and 100 of them were actual delegates inside the convention hall.

If you recall, the woman next to that guy screaming "no" and waving his arms held a sign stating "Arab-Americans".

If "Allah" can't be in the platform, neither can "God". You can bet Obama was behind this originally, and caved when his advisors warned him that a total deletion of "God" would be disasterous to the party and the president's campaign.

Last convention there were 25 Muslim delegates to the DemonCrat convention. This year the number is fourfold.

Leni

17 posted on 09/11/2012 7:11:23 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Jane Austen

Absolutely.


18 posted on 09/11/2012 7:12:05 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: MrB

BTTT


19 posted on 09/11/2012 7:54:44 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Jane Austen

I’d recommend everyone passing the video along to your friends via email, and on Facebook.. heres a link to bookmark for easy posting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUJE9YfsbNQ


20 posted on 09/11/2012 8:55:51 AM PDT by HailReagan78
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To: HailReagan78

Great idea! This is big but MSM is covering up.


21 posted on 09/11/2012 9:34:15 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: HailReagan78

Yes! And we should write letters, do anything we can, to keep reminding voters of it.


22 posted on 09/11/2012 9:41:39 AM PDT by Jane Austen (Boycott the Philadelphia Eagles!)
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To: Kaslin

Remember what Obama said about people who still cling to their guns and bible.


23 posted on 09/11/2012 10:15:26 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Kaslin

Remember what Obama said about people who still cling to their guns and bible.


24 posted on 09/11/2012 10:18:03 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: MrB
They denied God three times before the Clinton crowed.

Very good! Keep that up, and you'll be taking home the H.L. Mencken Award.

25 posted on 09/11/2012 10:35:19 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Vaduz
Remember what Obama said about people who still cling to their guns and bible.

What, that Bill Ayers will oversee their demise in a death camp?

26 posted on 09/11/2012 10:37:42 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

And the media by his side.


27 posted on 09/11/2012 10:41:44 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: MrB

I wish Romney and the GOP would make a bigger deal about it.


28 posted on 09/11/2012 1:47:23 PM PDT by Jane Austen (Boycott the Philadelphia Eagles!)
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To: GeronL; Kaslin; HailReagan78; Jane Austen; All
A study of the history of the so-called "progressive" movement (a truly regressive movement based on "old World" ideas), will reveal that the movement which seems now to be full blown in its effort to replace America's solid foundations actually was under way in the late 1800's.

According to an outstanding Methodist Minister who also served as an Ohio State Legislator, Rev. Benjamin W. Arnett, there were men in America advocating the same counterfeit, arrogant and erroneous ideas as those of today's "progressive" Democrats at the time of the great celebrations of the Centennial of the Declaration of Independence in 1876.

That A. M. E. Methodist Bishop was invited to deliver a "Centennial Thanksgiving Sermon" in 1876 in Urbana, Ohio. The Sermon, delivered at the St. Paul Church in Urbana is available in "African-American Pamphlets from the Daniel A. P. Murray Collection," 1820-1920; American Memory, Library of Congress.

The theme of the address was "Righteousness Exalteth a Nation, but Sin is a Reproach to any People," and should be of great interest to today's American citizens. It is remarkable in its tracing of the history of human governments and its detail of the ideas history of America to that date.

Rev. Arnett, after the lengthy summation of American liberty, under its founding idea of Creator-endowed liberty, heads a concluding section: "The Danger to our Country" - That section is excerpted below. See if you find parallels with what you have observed in recent years and in today's discourse:

The Danger to our Country"
"Now that our national glory and grandeur is principally derived from the position the fathers took on the great questions of right and wrong, and the career of this nation has been unparalleled in the history of the past, now there are those who are demanding the tearing down the strength of our national fabric. They may not intend to tear it down, but just as sure as they have their way, just that sure will they undermine our superstructure and cause the greatest calamity of the age. What are the demands of this party of men? Just look at it and examine it for yourselves, and see if you are willing that they shall have their way; or will you still assist in keeping the ship of state in the hands of the same crew and run her by the old gospel chart! But ye men who think there is no danger listen to the demands of the Liberals as they choose to call themselves:

"'Organize! Liberals of America! The hour for action has arrived. The cause of freedom calls upon us to combine our strength, our zeal, our efforts. These are The Demands of Liberalism:

"'1. We demand that churches and other ecclesiastical property shall no longer be exempt from just taxation.

"'2. We demand that the employment of chaplains in Congress, in State Legislatures, in the navy and militia, and in prisons, asylums, and all other institutions supported by public money, shall be discontinued.

"'3. We demand that all public appropriations for sectarian educational and charitable institutions shall cease.

"'4. We demand that all religious services now sustained by the government shall be abolished; and especially that the use of the Bible in the public schools, whether ostensibly as a text-book or avowedly as a book of religious worship, shall be prohibited.

"'5. We demand that the appointment, by the President of the United States or by the Governors of the various States, of all religious festivals and fasts shall wholly cease.

"'6. We demand that the judicial oath in the courts and in all other departments of the government shall be abolished, and that simple affirmation under the pains and penalties of perjury shall be established in its stead.

"'7. We demand that all laws directly or indirectly enforcing the observance of Sunday as the Sabbath shall be repealed.

"'8. We demand that all laws looking to the enforcement of “Christian” morality shall be abrogated, and that all laws shall be conformed to the requirements of natural morality, equal rights, and impartial liberty.

"'9. We demand that not only in the Constitution of the United States and of the several States, but also in the practical administration of the same, no privilege or advantage shall be conceded to Christianity or any other special religion; that our entire political system shall be founded and administered on a purely secular basis; and that whatever changes shall prove necessary to this end shall be consistently, unflinchingly, and promptly made.'

"'Let us boldly and with high purpose meet the duty of the hour.'

"Now we must not think that we have nothing to do in this great work, for the men who are at the head of this movement are men of culture and intelligence, and many of them are men of influence. They are led by that thinker and scholar, F. E. Abbott, than whom I know but few men who has a smoother pen, or who is his equal on the battle-field of thought. He says in an address on the duty of his leagues:

"'My answer may be a negative one to all who see nothing positive in the idea of liberty. The conviction I refer to is this: that, regarded as a theological system, Christianity is Superstition, and, regarded as an organized institution, Christianity is Slavery. The purpose I refer to is this: that, whether regarded as theological system, Christianity shall wholly cease to exercise influence in political matters. Although the national Constitution is strictly secular and non-Christian, there are many things in the practical administration of the government which violate its spirit, and constitute a virtual recognition of Christianity as the national religion. These violations are very dangerous; they are on the increase; they more and more give Christianity a practical hold upon the government; they directly tend to strengthen the influence of Christianity over the people, and to fortify it both as a theology and a church; and they are therefore justly viewed with growing indignation by liberals. Not unreasonably are they looked upon as paving the way to a formidable effort to carry the Christian Amendment to the Constitution; and the liberals are beginning to see that they must extinguish the conflagration in its commencement. I believe all this myself, with more intense conviction every day; and therefore I appeal frankly to the people to begin now to lay the foundations of a great National Party of Freedom. It is not a moment too soon. If the liberals are wise, they will see the facts as they are, and act accordingly. Not with hostility, bitterness, defiance, or anger but rather with love to all men and high faith in the beneficence of consistently republican institutions, do I urge them most earnestly to begin the work at once.'

"He acknowledges that this is a religious nation and wants all men to assist him in eliminating the grand old granite principles from the framework of our national union. Will you do it freeman; will we sell the temple reared at the cost of so much precious blood and treasure? These men would have us turn back the hands on the clock of our national progress, and stay the shadow on the dial plate of our christian civilization; they would have us call a retreat to the soldiers in the army of Christ; the banner of the cross they would have us haul down, and reverse the engines of war against sin and crime; the songs of Zion they would turn into discord, and for the harmony and the melody of the sons of God, they would give us general confusion; they would have us chain the forces of virtue and unloose the elements of vice; they would have the nation loose its moorings from the Lord of truth and experience and commit interest, morally, socially; religiously and politically to the unsafe and unreliable human reason; they would discharge God and his crew and run the ship of State by the light of reason, which has always been but a dim taper in the world, and all the foot-prints it has left are marked with the blood of men, women and children. No nation is safe when left alone with reason.

"But we have no notion of giving up the contest without a struggle or a battle. We are aware that there is a great commotion in the world of thought. Religion and science are at arms length contending with all their forces for the mastery. Faith and unbelief are fighting their old battles over again, everything that can be shaken is shaking. The foundations of belief are assaulted by the army of science and men are changing their opinions. New and starting theories are promulgated to the world; old truths are putting on new garbs. Error is dressing in the latest style, wrong is secured by the unholy alliances, changes in men and things, revolution in church and state, Empires are crumbling, Kingdoms tottering; everywhere the change is seen. In the social circle, in the school house, in the pulpit and in the pews. But amid all the changes are revolutions their are some things that are unchangeable, unmovable and enduring. The forces that underline the vital power of Christianity are the same yesterday, to-day, to-morrow and forever more. They are like their God, who is omnipotent, immovable and eternal, and everywhere truth has marched it has left its moccasin tracks.

"The Conclusion of the Whole Matter.We have patiently tried to examine the record of the nations of antiquity and learn the cause of their decay and decline, their fall, why their early death; and why so many implements of destruction around and about their tombs, and everywhere, in the silent streets, mouldering ruins, tottering columns, mouldy and moist rooms, and the united voice from the sepulcher of the dead past is, "sin is a reproach to any people." We see it written on the tombs of the Kings, and engraven on the pages of time, "sin is a reproach to any people." These are the principles of governments, Right and wrong; and the people who are the advocates of Right have bound themselves together and by their united effort they have brought light out of darkness and forced strength out of weakness.

"We as a nation have a grand and glorious future before us. The sun of our nation is just arising above the horizon and is now sending his golden rays of peace from one end of the land to the other. The utmost extremities of the members of the body politic are warm and in motion by the commercial and financial activities of the land. Her face is destined to blush with beauty when peace and justice shall be enthroned. The grand march of progress shall mark her in her onward advancement in moral strength, intellectual brilliancy, and political power. Then we can say that we give to every man, woman and child the benefit of our free institutions, giving all the benefits of our common school and the freedom to worship God under their own vine and fig tree. Then will we see written, on the banner of our free, redeemed and disenthralled country, the sublime words written, not in the blood of men, but in the sun-light of truth, that "Righteousness exalteth a nation." It will fall like the morning dew on the lowly; it will descend like the showers of May on the poor; and like the sun it will shine on the good and bad, dispensing from the hand of plenty the blessings of a government founded on the principle of justice and equality.

"Standing on the threshold of the second century of the nation's life, with the experience of the past lying at our feet, we are saluted by the shout of triumph from the millions who left their homes and business and attended the Great Exposition of the skill and genius of the world, collected at Philadelphia. We were permitted to receive the greetings from the oldest to the youngest nation of the earth. Egypt and the United States clasped hands over the waste of 5,000 years, and lay their treasures at the feet of our civilization. The material, intellectual and mechanical deterioration of the one, and the unprecedented progress of the other, stand in great contrast; in all that makes the nation great,—morally, religiously and socially, the young nation is ahead.

"Following the tracks of righteousness throughout the centuries and along the way of nations, we are prepared to recommend it to all and assert without a shadow of doubt, that "Righteousness exalted a nation"; but on the other hand following the foot-prints of sin amid the ruins of Empires and remains of cities, we will say that "sin is a reproach to any people." But we call on all American citizens to love their country, and look not on the sins of the past, but arming ourselves for the conflict of the future, girding ourselves in the habiliments of Righteousness, march forth with the courage of a Numidian lion and with the confidence of a Roman Gladiator, and meet the demands of the age, and satisfy the duties of the hour. Let us be encouraged in our work, for we have found the moccasin track of Righteousness all along the shore of the stream of life, constantly advancing, holding humanity with a firm hand. We have seen it “through” all the confusion of rising and falling States, of battle, siege and slaughter, of victory and defeat; through the varying fortunes and ultimate extinctions of Monarchies, Republics and Empires; through barbaric irruption and desolation, feudal isolation, spiritual supremacy, the heroic rush and conflict of the Cross and Crescent; amid the busy hum of industry, through the marts of trade and behind the gliding keels of commerce.”

"And in America, the battle-field of modern thought, we can trace the foot-prints of the one and the tracks of the other. So let us use all of our available forces, and especially our young men, and throw them into the conflict of the Right against the Wrong.

"Then let the grand Centennial Thanksgiving song be heard and sung in every house of God; and in every home may thanksgiving sounds be heard, for our race has been emancipated, enfranchised and are now educating, and have the gospel preached to them!

"Sons of freedom, sing the glad hymns of praise on the Western plains! Daughters of sorrow shout the joyful tidings amid the savannahs of the South-land! Proclaim it on the Atlantic's western stand and declare it on the slopes of the Pacific! Humble followers of the Son of Mary, chant the eternal truth in the temple of the Most High, that “Righteousness exalteth a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people.”

"We invite every nation, kindred, tongue and people, to come to our land. Come from the bogs of Ireland; come from the dykes of Holland; come from the mountains of Switzerland; and from the sunny plains of Italy; and enjoy a government made for man! Come from the jungles of Africa or Egypt, the university of the infant world; come from Asia the cradle of humanity; come and bring your gifts from the Islands of the South Sea and spice land! Come ye men of every clime and race and see a nation founded in Righteousness, guarded by Justice, and supported by truth and equity, and defended by God!

"When thus united in one grand commonwealth of nationalities the universal prayer will be:

"Show us our Aaron, with his rod of flower!
Our Miriam, with her timbrel soul in tune!
And call some Joshua, in spirits power,
To praise our sun of strength at point of noon.
God of our fathers! over sand and sea,
Still keep our struggling footsteps close to thee."

This great A.M.E. Minister summed up the cry which should be in the hearts of all Christians, indeed, all citizens who love liberty and who understand the documents, writings, speeches, and the affirmations of America's founders and early Presidents and Supreme Court Justices. Many such writings documentations are available online at many sources, including here here, in J. Q. Adams' "Jubilee" Address.

29 posted on 09/11/2012 2:21:28 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: loveliberty2
Ooops! One of the links was erroneously entered. It is David Barton's "Wallbuilders".
30 posted on 09/11/2012 2:29:37 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: loveliberty2

Ever hear of Robespierre of the Reign of Terror?

He was just a good progressive too.


31 posted on 09/11/2012 3:07:41 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Kaslin

“The answer is simple: America’s left wants a godless society here in the United States”

Soon, it will be time for a discussion on whether or not these commies and fascists should be allowed to continue their totalitarianism. They are engaged in sedition and treason. The democrat party is a seditionist organization. Several states are in open insurrection against the founding principles. We do have a legal remedy to deal with this by reinstating the post-Civil War Reconstruction statutes.


32 posted on 09/11/2012 3:31:46 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Jane Austen

Wouldn’t be “civil” to say that democrats are anti-God, I guess.


33 posted on 09/11/2012 4:07:29 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: GeronL
Thanks. As for Robispierre, if you read Rev. Arnette's Sermon in its entirety, he deals with that tyrannical leader too, as well as others throughout recorded history.

Additionally, his comments regarding a great enemy of our liberty today reveal a good understanding of that ideology's roots and consequences.

The pulpit is largely silent today. The collections of Revolutionary Period Sermons (for instance, Ellis Sandoz's) prove the remarkable role they played in spreading the ideas of liberty.

34 posted on 09/11/2012 5:50:06 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: loveliberty2

Yes, I have no doubt that we have many would-be Robepierre’s or “name any murderous dictator” in our midsts. How many leftists still see the French Revolution as a good thing, not for the democratic institutions that formed later - they don’t like those much- but for the Reign of Terror itself. It was all about CHANGE. Get rid of God, get rid of traditions, start from scratch, even regulate the way people dressed and talked to each other.

THAT is the leftist wet dream.


35 posted on 09/11/2012 7:00:51 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: MrB

It sure sounded like it.


36 posted on 09/11/2012 8:21:19 PM PDT by Jane Austen (Boycott the Philadelphia Eagles!)
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