Obama Administration Expands ATF’s Power to Seize Property

Guns.com ^ | 09.07.2012 | S.H. Blannelberry

[DogByte6RER]

I prefer this logo

[DogByte6RER]

Now this captures my sentiment too

[DogByte6RER]

[gaijin]

It’s time the ATF apolarize to the country for Waco and RR and then apologize to Mexico for F&F.

And then we need to fire ALL of them.

[MestaMachine]

By extension, of extreme interest! Ping

[stormhill]

the power to “to seize and administratively forfeit property allegedly involved in controlled substance offenses

If this doesn't scare you, you're just not paying attention.

[Shady]

It scares the heck out of me but it doesn’t surprise me one little bit.

[OneWingedShark]

Interesting... in the sort of terrifying “I see what’s going to happen” way.

[Secret Agent Man]

And jail many of them.

[Secret Agent Man]

Death by Government is going to become the #1 killer in this country.

[Christie at the beach]

Just hope they go to the right address of the dope smugglers before they seize any property. Oh, the government and strong arm tactics; just like the IRS.

[verum ago]

So the Feds can shut down a website and seize its domain on the suspicion (not proof!) of intellectual property violations, and they can also take whatever the hell they want on suspicion that what they’re seizing is somehow involved in a drug transaction.

Even the hardcore Leftist government-should-control-and-do-eveything people I know are shocked and seriously alarmed by this.

What’s next..?

[stormhill]

Ditto.

Since the beginning of the regime, I've found talking to people about the erosion of their liberties is like talking to a wall.

[Yo-Yo]

the power to “to seize and administratively forfeit property allegedly involved in controlled substance offenses

If this doesn't scare you, you're just not paying attention.

I'm by no means a "legalize marijuana" person, but it has scared me for years that the local police can seize cash and other property without due process.

Extending it to the ATF is scary, but the practice should have been found unconstitutional decades ago.

[Tublecane]

They didn’t want organized crime and drug busters having all the confiscatory fun.

By the way, “administratively forfeit” doesn’t male sense. Administratively confiscated, yes. Or stolen, more accurately. The other side forfeits; you take.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Just implementing plank #4 of Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto.

The Ten Planks of Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto
(and How Statists Implement Them)

1. Abolition of private property rights (via high property taxes, restrictive zoning laws, "fair housing" edicts, environmental and "wetlands" regulations, and UN Agenda 21)

2. Institution of a heavily graduated income tax (by calling it "taxing the rich")

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance (through a confiscatory estate tax on "the rich")

4. Confiscation of the property of enemies of the state (through lawless application of asset forfeiture and eminent domain)

5. Centralization of credit into the hands of the state (Federal Reserve, Federal Trade Commission, TARP, etc.)

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation into the hands of the state (FCC, DOT, FEMA, etc.).

7. Consolidation and subjugation of all major industries to central government control (FDA, EPA, OSHA, ICC, NLRB, EEOC, etc.)

8. Mandatory labor union membership (public-sector unions, unionization of 21-million Obamacare health care workers, automatic withholding of forced union dues, "card check," etc.)

9. Equitable redistribution of all wealth (TANF, SSI, EITC, SNAP, etc.)

10. Free public education (and food and health care and cell phones and Internet access, etc.)

[andyk]

Fire them all, and try Lon Horiuchi for multiple counts of murder. There are other agents who deserve it as well.

[NTHockey]

Of all the government agencies to grant more power to, the BATF is the most out of control, unconstitutional, abusive and most threatening to the average citizen.

At what point does a single elected official - supposedly our representatives - show that they still possess their cojones and stop these unconstitutional actions? I have no illusions that any of them have the cojones.

IF SECESSION NOT BE, THEN REVOLUTION MUST.

[stormhill]

...administratively forfeit... The other side forfeits; you take

This is derived from the same Newspeak that makes the income tax system "voluntary".

[DTogo]

If this doesn't scare you, you're just not paying attention.

It's not scary, it's a heads up.