Skip to comments.Berlin declares circumcision legal, but only if performed by a doctor — not as a ritual
Posted on 09/05/2012 10:32:00 AM PDT by Nachum
One of Germanys 16 states has declared circumcision legal, but only if performed by doctors not, as required by Jewish law, by mohels. Berlin, Germanys capital and itself a state, is the first to declare the practice legal following a Cologne court ruling in June that non-medical circumcisions on children amounted to a criminal offense, according to DPA, a German news wire. National legislation is pending to legalize circumcision. State Justice Minister Thomas Heilmann made the announcement Wednesday, saying he felt it necessary to allay fears in this difficult transitional period, the Associated Press reported.
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PLEASE Jewish people GET OUT OF KRAUTLAND there can be NOTHING good come by remaining in “Germany”! The Krauts STILL HATE your GUTS! Get to Isreal as fast as you can!
How about body piercings and tattoo? Do these people have to be medically certified too?
Transition to what? Complete atheism?
National legislation is pending to legalize circumcision.
In Germany, a court ruled that circumcision was child abuse under the very broad provisions of existing law. The law was originally intended to prevent children from being subjected to medically unnecessary operations (like plastic surgery) but is now being used as a weapon against circumcision.
The German parliament acknowledges that this court ruling means that the law needs to be changed in order to preserve religious freedom, and so they are readying a vote for a revision to the law.
Most likely pushed through by Islam
Transition between the period in which this bizarre court ruling is the law of the land and the upcoming parliamentary vote on a law which guarantees the legality of religious circumcision.
Actually, this really surprises me. Germany has been EXTREMELY anxious to live down Hitler and the Holocaust. I would expect them to be the last country in Europe to follow this path. Normally they bend over backward not to seem antisemitic—although they go along with the anti-semitic foreign policy of the other Euro countries. But usually from the back seat.
I’m also a bit curious what the Muzzies make of all this. Do they care who circumcizes their babies? I suppose a Muslim doctor could do it, but I don’t really know what their rules are.
Circumcision of minor children is obligatory in Islam as well as in Judaism. They oppose this court ruling as well.
Transition to what? Complete atheism?
Eine finale Lösung. (A final solution.)
The court ruled that a crime had been committed because the rite was a non-medically necessary surgery performed on a minor who was incapable of giving informed consent.
This has been received in Germany as an unwarranted encroachment on religious freedom and the German parliament is going to vote on a law to protect religious circumcision.
Concern over the anti-Semitic implications of this ruling are one of the main drivers for the proposed legislation.
That isn’t German. The word is “Endlösung.”
I didn’t know what you were referring to with your Juden Raus! comment - found a link... Creepy. Sick... What’s with the Germans?
Part of the German populace really is gearing up for a war...with Islam.
While they have some Turks, Germany never did let as many of the Muslim hoard in as the rest of Europe, perhaps by design.
If the EU can not be held together (a given in my view) resulting in power ceding to Germany's financial might then as things collapse the rest of Europe will be fighting a bigger internal mess with their unassimilated and antagonistic Mohammedans.
I guess they are done apologizing for Hitler and have moved on to just being themselves.
I think their biggest problem is the Moslims and they are trying to discourage them.
Thanks for the correction. I should have looked it up instead of trusting my memory... /g
Came across this website http://salem-news.com/articles/august072012/german-circ-ban-rm.php last week while looking into ant-FGM legislation in the U.S.
I’m not promoting the message and I wouldn’t know where to start looking to verify the statements made about the techniques employed in ancient circumcision. Neither do I know enough about Mosaic Law to question the author’s position.
He makes a reasonable argument that anti-FGM legislation could be ruled unconstitutional but being obviously anti-circumcision it looks as if his point is the legislation is not inclusive enough.
Aside from the impact on American Judaism if the more inclusive law is made, another concern could be, especially with the growing islamic influence in the U.S., would be that if the States anti-FGM legislation is ruled against, an updated version would be delayed into oblivion. A big score for muslim maniacs.
Add in the expected National Health Care impact it looks like this issue isn’t such a small matter.
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