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To: carmody
If it’s Ryan, I’m very happy. Finally a reason to vote for Romney.

If it's Ryan the Republicans will lose big. Practically every one of the 50%+ on government transfer payments of some kind will vote against the Republican ticket.

35 posted on 08/10/2012 9:18:13 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: steve86

Depends on what you mean. If hard times end, few will regret leaving food stamps behind. And even those who file no Federal tax are still impacted by such taxes upon others — it raises the prices they have to pay.


40 posted on 08/10/2012 9:22:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: steve86

There seems to be a serious split on this.

Can someone please summarize what’s really, really bad about Ryan?


42 posted on 08/10/2012 9:22:31 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: steve86

Bullsh!t.


48 posted on 08/10/2012 9:26:06 PM PDT by moonhawk (Rush, Mark, Sean: Conservative talkers. Sarah, Newt: Conservative DOers. Mitt: Conservative faker)
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To: steve86

Bullsh!t.


52 posted on 08/10/2012 9:27:17 PM PDT by moonhawk (Rush, Mark, Sean: Conservative talkers. Sarah, Newt: Conservative DOers. Mitt: Conservative faker)
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To: steve86
If it's Ryan the Republicans will lose big. Practically every one of the 50%+ on government transfer payments of some kind will vote against the Republican ticket.
What are you saying, that Romney should pick Rangel?
58 posted on 08/10/2012 9:28:59 PM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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To: steve86
If it's Ryan the Republicans will lose big. Practically every one of the 50%+ on government transfer payments of some kind will vote against the Republican ticket.

If that is the case, the Republic is finished. We can't afford the current entitlement programs, which represent an unfunded liability of over $100 trillion. And this doesn't include welfare programs and other government handouts like food stamps (46 million.) and Medicaid (60 million plus an additional 18 million when Obamacare is fully implemented.)

If the American people can't handle the truth, then the Republic isn't worth saving. We will go the way of Greece. Let the American people have a real choice and then the chips fall where they may. As Mark Steyn wrote, the 2012 Election Is The Last Exit Ramp Before The Death Spiral

111 posted on 08/10/2012 9:56:17 PM PDT by kabar
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To: steve86
That is a bunch of crap. Even those on transfer payments, the largest being Social Security, KNOW that the program is unsustainable. They have children and grandchildren too.

Ryan is incredibly articulate and easily explains how and why we need to change entitlements. He also gives credible and fairly pain free ways of doing so.

184 posted on 08/10/2012 11:30:04 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: steve86
If it's Ryan the Republicans will lose big. Practically every one of the 50%+ on government transfer payments of some kind will vote against the Republican ticket.

So what you seem to be saying is that the Republicans should change their platform to embrace the welfare society?

221 posted on 08/11/2012 7:52:25 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: steve86

I just came from the Manassas, VA rally. There were plenty of “seasoned” citizens there. HUGE turnout - people are thrilled about Ryan.

The only people there for Obama were paid to be there - a few “Educators for Obama” and some thugs who were bussed in from “elsewhere.”


227 posted on 08/11/2012 4:14:50 PM PDT by Belle22
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