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To: steve86

There seems to be a serious split on this.

Can someone please summarize what’s really, really bad about Ryan?


42 posted on 08/10/2012 9:22:31 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: treetopsandroofs

Ryan will be made the poster child of Mediscare. The Rats will scare the seniors 24-7 that their social security and medicare will be killed by Ryan. A ryan look alike was already in their commercial pushing grandma off the cliff.


46 posted on 08/10/2012 9:25:00 PM PDT by entropy12 (Hate is the most insidious emotion, it will encourage cancer cells in your body.)
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To: treetopsandroofs

“Can someone please summarize what’s really, really bad about Ryan?”

He’s not “bad,” but he will not electrify voters like a Palin — or perhaps a Rubio. I don’t see the south identifying much with Ryan from Wisconsin. If Romney wins with anyone other than Rubio or McConnell, it will surely be an all out anti-Obama vote.


61 posted on 08/10/2012 9:29:45 PM PDT by varina davis (A real American patriot -- Gov. Rick Perry)
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To: treetopsandroofs

He voted for TARP


66 posted on 08/10/2012 9:33:05 PM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: treetopsandroofs
Can someone please summarize what’s really, really bad about Ryan?

Nothing.

The "Do-Nothing" Democrats refused to pass a budget in the Senate because they were afraid that going on the record with ANYTHING would provide ammunition to be used against them.

So, when Republicans took the House and tried to pass a serious budget resolution, it was the only plan on the table. The Democrats, instead of offering a plan of their own, used the Ryan plan as a bludgeon against Republicans.

Ryan's "problem" was to think that today's Congress was really supposed to do something. What Romney has to do now is ignore the Democrat attack ads and counter them with serious policy discussion backed up with serious plans, and then make the MSM compare the lack of seriousness of Obama with the seriousness of Romney-Ryan.

-PJ

90 posted on 08/10/2012 9:43:47 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( It doesn't come naturally when you're not natural born.)
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To: treetopsandroofs

Nothing is bad about him. He’s conservative, smart, and articulate. Some people are just afraid the left will hammer us over the head because he wants to fix Medicare and Social Security. Who cares! The left is going to try to beat us over the head with it anyway, we might as well have someone smart and articulate to stand him to them.


126 posted on 08/10/2012 10:06:32 PM PDT by jb729
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To: treetopsandroofs

Can someone please summarize what’s really, really bad about Ryan?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

I like him a lot. However, here are some downsides:

1) The ticket will be defined by the media and by Democrats as two, slick-haired, tight-collared, ultra-white rich Northern males who want to exploit blacks, Hispanics, women, elderly, and the young by giving tax cuts to the rich white Northern males like themselves. In short, a Romney-Ryan ticket takes away none of the Left’s main talking points, and, in fact only enhances them.

2) We have to win Florida, North Carolina, and Virginia if we are to oust Obama. I don’t know if Ryan helps in any of those states. He may, however, as others have correctly noted, bring Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, and possibly Pennsylvania into play, but that is rolling the dice by spreading our side pretty thin in more states instead of focusing on fewer key ones. Think of the electoral vote instead of the popular vote.

3) He can be painted, unfairly or not, as a Congressional leader at a time when Congressional popularity is extremely low. Guilt by association.


187 posted on 08/10/2012 11:33:25 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: treetopsandroofs
Can someone please summarize what’s really, really bad about Ryan?

1) He is A Conservative and the MSM and Democrats Really Hate Conservatives.

2) He is intelligent and articulate and the Dems and MSM really hate that a Conservative is able to explain his philosophy clearly. They tend to lose big when that happens.

3) He is a Republican, Nuff Said there.

4) He isn't Obama and therefore is not god!

Need more?

192 posted on 08/10/2012 11:37:53 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: treetopsandroofs
He's only 42 and spent most of his adult working life in the House.

He has no business executive, state or local government experience. He's not a veteran.

He knows the budget inside and out but that's it. Foreign policy? Who knows. Defense? Who knows.

Obama couldn't ask for a better running mate in terms of avenues of attack because he's run against the Ryan budget for the past two years. Ryan was depicted as pushing grandma over a cliff in her wheelchair. On that level it's a gift.

It looks like Ryan was picked because there was personal chemistry with him and Mitt. Ryan might help Romney appeal to certain demographics based on his bio. His father died when he was 16 and so perhaps can talk about welfare and struggle.

I like Ryan, I can see the advantage of running with someone there's chemistry with, but he does not naturally fit the bill of someone ready to take on the job of President.

His best attribute? He's not a lawyer. Unfortunately, his wife is. She's a tax attorney.

202 posted on 08/11/2012 1:19:24 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: treetopsandroofs
Can someone please summarize what’s really, really bad about Ryan?

He has a plan to cut entitlements. Some are addicted to those.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/253503/entitlement-reform-yuval-levin

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/52625.html

217 posted on 08/11/2012 6:49:31 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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