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House votes 240-182 to approve rule covering healthcare repeal
The Hill ^ | 07/10/12 | Pete Kasperowicz

Posted on 07/10/2012 3:06:35 PM PDT by kingattax

The House approved a rule governing debate for the Republicans' Repeal of Obamacare Act on Tuesday.

Members voted 240-182 in favor of the rule, which sets up five hours of debate that will take place Tuesday and Wednesday.

Democrats strongly oppose the bill, a sentiment reflected in the rule vote. Only four Democrats supported the rule, and every voting Republicans favored it. Democrats voting for the rule were Reps. Dan Boren (Okla.), Larry Kissell (N.C.), Mike McIntyre (N.C.) and Mike Ross (Ark.).

The vote came after a debate that seemed to raise the question of why five hours of debate is needed at all.

Democrats reiterated their arguments that the repeal bill, H.R. 6079, will go nowhere after the House, and that the House is therefore wasting its time. They also noted the repeated attempts Republicans have previously made to repeal all or part of the bill.

"Never in the history of this Congress ... has anybody voted this many times on a single issue," Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.) said on the House floor. "And why? Because we don't have anything else to do."

"We're not trying to make law here, we're making political points."

But Republicans insisted that repeal is needed because people are losing access to their company-sponsored health plans as companies react to the 2010 healthcare reform law, and that the cost of that law is double what Democrats advertised two years ago. Reacting to the Supreme Court's ruling in favor of the law also seemed foremost in the minds of Republicans.

"I respect their decision, and there's nothing we can do to change that," Rep. Pete Sessions (R-Texas) said. "ObamaCare is now the official law of the land.

"However, there is something this body can do to reverse the course and to prevent the job-destroying aspects of this bill from taking effect: a complete repeal of the bill."


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Arkansas; US: New York; US: North Carolina; US: Oklahoma; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2012; abortion; arkansas; danboren; deathpanels; democrats; hr6079; larrykissell; louiseslaughter; mikemcintyre; mikeross; newyork; nodemocrats2012; northcarolina; obama; obamacare; oklahoma; petesessions; socialistdemocrats; texas; zerocare

1 posted on 07/10/2012 3:06:46 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

bflr (Bookmark For Later Read)


2 posted on 07/10/2012 3:14:17 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: kingattax

Good, this provides some more ammo for those seeking to oust democrats in purple cong. districts. It won’t even be voted on in the Senate though, and that is where we really need the ammo.


3 posted on 07/10/2012 3:17:57 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ("The cross opens its arms to the four winds; it is a signpost for free travelers." GK Chesterton)
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To: kingattax; All
Anyone know the specifics of what they will be repealing??
4 posted on 07/10/2012 3:18:15 PM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic ( (#withNewt))
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To: kingattax
U. S. House of Representatives

Thank the Republicans.

Tell the dimocrates that they are going to be unelected in November!

5 posted on 07/10/2012 3:19:56 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: kingattax
At least I can live with self pride.

I have NEVER voted or supported a dimocrat ever in my life and I never will.

What a bunch of thoughtless, lackluster, powerful individuals without an ability to put together an individual thought even if self preservation was at stake.

Drones leading drones over the cliff.

6 posted on 07/10/2012 3:22:11 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: kingattax

Make them choke on Obamacare all the way through the election...


7 posted on 07/10/2012 3:22:20 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: kingattax

Rather than vote on a bill the senate as constituted won’t ever take up, why not attach it as a rider to a bill the rats want and say this far, no more. Like maybe the next credick limit increase?


8 posted on 07/10/2012 3:22:34 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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To: Salvation

From your keyboard to God’s ears.


9 posted on 07/10/2012 3:23:00 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (ABO)
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To: kingattax

So the Rats spent 5 hours complaining that the vote was wasting time?


10 posted on 07/10/2012 3:23:23 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: kingattax

In my opinion why they have offered up the bill to defeat ObamaCare is to make sure that those that voted nay might lose any chance of being reelected. That is the only purpose I can see since it will never be put on the floor in the Senate and we know where the communists black leader King Obama stands.


11 posted on 07/10/2012 3:29:06 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: Logical me

Wonder how may rats will vote for it..


12 posted on 07/10/2012 3:43:34 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: kingattax

Strategy to repeal ObamaCare:

1) House passes a bill to repeal ObamaCare; Senate rejects it.

2) House passes a bill to repeal the individual mandate. The Senate passes it, because it only takes 51 votes in the Senate since the individual mandate was passed under “budget reconciliation,” and therefore cannot be filibustered. Obama vetoes it—he has no real choice.

3) House passes a bill that declares that the individual mandate is not a tax, that denies the Federal Courts jurisdiction to hear challenges to the new law, and that declares that if the courts rule that it is still a tax as a matter of Constitutional law in spite of the new law, then the mandate penalty/tax cannot be enforced.

Now the President and his party are forced to make an impossible choice: They either must acknowledge it’s a tax in a way that is political poison, or they must pass a law that effectively nullifies the Roberts ruling.


13 posted on 07/10/2012 3:46:41 PM PDT by sourcery (If true=false, then there would be no constraints on what is possible. Hence, the world exists.)
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To: Salvation
Tell the dimocrates that they are going to be unelected in November!

OH NOS...we will then have to fund the "Office of the President Unelect"

14 posted on 07/10/2012 3:54:01 PM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: kingattax

WOO-HOO!


15 posted on 07/10/2012 5:03:27 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY- IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: kingattax

Now the rubber meets the road. Will the house Repubs vote to not fund obamacare?


16 posted on 07/10/2012 6:20:06 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: HerrBlucher

Explain the horrific new taxes, the Death Panels, and the total loss of Freedom of Personal Chose under this horrific law that adds 16,000 new IRS Agents to terrorize US and NOT ONE FREAKIN NEW DOCTOR OR NURSE!! and tell me why it is even allowed! THE DEMORATS WANT TOTAL CONTROL OF AMERICA AND THE END OF AMERICA AND HER FREEDOMS FOR ALL!!
We could easily cover every High Risk Citizen under High Risk pools as with Car Insurance,and those that can’t afford Insurance with State subsidized coverage much more cheaply and cost effectively without destroying Our Wonderful and Worldrenowned Healthcare System!


17 posted on 07/10/2012 6:23:49 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: kingattax

Strictly symbolic, otherwise a meaningless gesture. Too little, too late.


18 posted on 07/10/2012 6:30:47 PM PDT by Ron H. (Obama, America's public enemy #1.)
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To: True Republican Patriot
We could easily cover every High Risk Citizen under High Risk pools as with Car Insurance,and those that can’t afford Insurance with State subsidized coverage much more cheaply and cost effectively without destroying Our Wonderful and Worldrenowned Healthcare System!

Bingo! But that wasn't the point of Obamacare, the point was a massive power grab by the feds to control nearly every aspect of peoples lives. Leftists love power, and that is all they love.

19 posted on 07/10/2012 7:21:52 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ("The cross opens its arms to the four winds; it is a signpost for free travelers." GK Chesterton)
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To: kingattax

How they vote is what we call “information”

And facts that can be used in the upcoming election.

Yes, Louise, this is politics, and this is what politics is FOR - to let citizens make informed decisions about how they want to be governed.


20 posted on 07/10/2012 8:15:57 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: kingattax

Works for me.


21 posted on 07/10/2012 8:21:38 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: kingattax
"Never in the history of this Congress ... has anybody voted this many times on a single issue," Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.) said on the House floor. "And why? Because we don't have anything else to do."

She should know, she has been there since the beginning of time the liberal wench. She has been my congresswoman for a decade and has been useless except for getting me on Fox and Friends, Neal Cavuto and Glenn Beck. I think and hope she is toast as it looks like Maggie Brooks (R) just may take her out this year.

22 posted on 07/10/2012 9:52:10 PM PDT by The Mayor ("If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat" — Ronald Reagan)
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To: kingattax
Kiss your employee benefits goodbye.

I got this email from one of our labor attorneys today.
It looks like the government will be removing employees from our health insurance by offering them Government Insurance. (Medicaid). ( Not to be confused with Government Motors)
This will drive down enrollment and subsequently drive up premiums (along with mandated freebies) forcing our company to abandon its health insurance benefits to its employees.


Now that the U.S. Supreme Court has upheld the constitutionality of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, employers that provide health benefits to employees will need to take immediate action to comply with the new law beginning in 2012. They also should begin to consider whether it makes sense strategically to continue to offer group health plan coverage to employees in 2014 and beyond.

Immediate Issues
• Preparation and distribution of summaries of benefits and coverage (SBCs)
Reporting the cost of coverage on 2012 Forms Now that the U.S. Supreme Court has upheld the constitutionality of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, employers that provide health benefits to employees will need to take immediate action to comply with the new law beginning in 2012. They also should begin to consider whether it makes sense strategically to continue to offer group health plan coverage to employees in 2014 and beyond.

Join us for a webinar program discussing both the immediate impact and longer-term implications of the Court’s decision.

Immediate Issues
• Preparation and distribution of summaries of benefits and coverage (SBCs)
• Reporting the cost of coverage on 2012 Forms W-2
• Permitted uses of medical loss ratio (MLR) rebates from insurance companies
• New administrative fees payable by health plans to the federal government
• New limits for health care flexible spending accounts for 2013

Strategic Considerations
• Beginning in 2014, all individuals will have an opportunity to purchase individual health insurance from a state exchange. If (as expected) the exchanges provide viable health care coverage alternatives, employers will need to decide, from the financial and human resources perspectives, whether to continue to offer employer-sponsored group health insurance coverage to employees. The Affordable Care Act contains a dizzying array of financial incentives and penalties that are relevant to an employer’s choice.
• Permitted uses of medical loss ratio (MLR) rebates from insurance companies
• New administrative fees payable by health plans to the federal government
• New limits for health care flexible spending accounts for 2013

Beginning in 2014, all individuals will have an opportunity to purchase individual health insurance from a state exchange. If (as expected) the exchanges provide viable health care coverage alternatives, employers will need to decide, from the financial and human resources perspectives, whether to continue to offer employer-sponsored group health insurance coverage to employees. The Affordable Care Act contains a dizzying array of financial incentives and penalties that are relevant to an employer’s choice.

23 posted on 07/10/2012 9:58:49 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla

President’s $8 Billion Coincidence

Forward this to every senior you know and ask them to pass this along.
Very important they all know what is going to happen.....

Remember what FDR said, “There are no coincidences in politics...”

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24 posted on 07/11/2012 6:04:59 AM PDT by sunny48
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To: kingattax

Hopefully, Kissell’s and McIntyre’s vote will not give them “cover” for being re-elected and possibly resulting in voters who vote for them also voting a straight Dem ticket in the Fall.


25 posted on 07/11/2012 9:54:36 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: kingattax

The Medicare Catastrophic Coverage Act was never declared unconstitutional. Nevertheless, confronted by the wrath of angry seniors, Congress had the good sense to recognize they’d goofed, so they repealed the law in its entirety. http://content.healthaffairs.org/content/9/3/75.full.pdf

The lesson is clear: when members of Congress feel sufficient wrath from voters, they do the right thing.


26 posted on 07/11/2012 10:06:37 AM PDT by DrC
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To: kingattax

What’s the verdict?


27 posted on 07/11/2012 11:53:39 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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I think there is another reason, or at least result, of this bill and vote.

I’ve seen many conservatives on this site criticize the GOP as weak or the same as Dems.. the tweedle-dee, tweedle-dum song.

How many know the House has voted to repeal Obamacare? Before today? After today?

It helps to remind folks that winning the House did matter in 2010, if we had won the Senate, Obamacare would have died long ago. And if we win it this time, it will be gone.


28 posted on 07/11/2012 4:21:21 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Ron H.

Ron H. wrote:

Strictly symbolic, otherwise a meaningless gesture. Too little, too late.

This can be added to the impressive number of budget proposals and deficit reducing measures that Prince Harry has pushed aside and ignored. The pile won’t reflect well in the Dims.


29 posted on 07/11/2012 6:15:50 PM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
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