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Stony Point Resident Shoots Black Bear During Family Barbecue (NY)
patch.com ^ | 30 June, 2012 | Julia Halewicz

Posted on 07/02/2012 6:14:40 AM PDT by marktwain

A Stony Point resident hosting a family barbecue shot a black bear he deemed a threat to his guests when the bear would not leave his property Saturday afternoon.

The incident took place at approximately 1 p.m. at 567 Willow Grove Road, Stony Point Police Sgt. John Wood told Patch. Guests, including children, were outside when the bear came onto the property and at the time of the shooting, but police did not know how many.

"The bear came onto his property in close proximity to his guests and was not shooing away," said Sgt. Wood. "He took matters into his own hands."

The homeowner, Richard Wheeler, used a rifle to shoot the bear, which died at the scene. The Department of Environmental Conservation arrived at the home and "found everything to be fine," said Sgt. Wood. A DEC represtentative was not available for an interview at the time of publication.

The DEC released the bear to Wheeler, who declined a phone interview with Patch regarding the incident.

The Willow Grove Road home is located in a relatively low density, wooded area close to Harriman State Park.

Several bear sightings in the Hudson Valley region have been reported recently. Earlier this June, black bears were spotted in New Castle and at Armonk's Wampus Elementary and H.C. Crittenden Middle Schools. The DEC provided safety tips following those sightings.

"Any time people come in contact with a bear, call the police," advised Sgt. Wood. "Try not to go near a bear."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; bear; defense; ny
From another story, the bear was within 30 feet of the childen and refused to be driven off. The homeowner shot the 175 lb animal with a .22, killing it. It had two ear tags from previous problems.
1 posted on 07/02/2012 6:14:53 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Killed with a .22? That’s some pretty good shot placement there.


2 posted on 07/02/2012 6:17:47 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: marktwain

With a 22???? Wonder where he hit him?


3 posted on 07/02/2012 6:18:04 AM PDT by refermech
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To: coloradan

No kidding, maybe he shot him in the eye.


4 posted on 07/02/2012 6:20:01 AM PDT by refermech
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To: marktwain

We had a bear (about a year and a half old) walk through our back yard a couple of weeks ago. Fortunately, we were all inside.


5 posted on 07/02/2012 6:20:46 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: marktwain

Third strike and out.


6 posted on 07/02/2012 6:20:46 AM PDT by GOPPachyderm
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To: marktwain

I almost ran over one last Wednesday here in northern Jersey, came around a sharp turn and there he was strolling across the road in front of me....(good 300 lb’er)


7 posted on 07/02/2012 6:21:07 AM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: marktwain

but but but .22s are so weak it takes 10 rounds to just maim a squirrel!!!

(Proof that success isn’t just in the the tool(s) used, it’s knowing how to use it)


8 posted on 07/02/2012 6:21:29 AM PDT by PissAndVinegar
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To: marktwain

“The DEC released the bear to Wheeler”

Bear steaks, anyone?


9 posted on 07/02/2012 6:25:37 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: marktwain

“He took matters into his own hands.”

Do I detect a note of finger wagging? “Not really a crime, citizen...yet. But we ARE professionals....”

Maybe its just me...


10 posted on 07/02/2012 6:36:20 AM PDT by Adder (Da bro has GOT to go!)
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To: Maine Mariner
I had one on my front porch in April. He stepped in my newly mulched walkway. My neighbor called to tell us other wise any of us would have walked right out and came face to face. He heard us out the window and tried to climb a tree but just decided to run away from our big mouths that scared him.
11 posted on 07/02/2012 6:37:30 AM PDT by angcat (ROMNEY/RUBIO 2012)
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To: marktwain

“He took matters into his own hands.”

Do I detect a note of finger wagging? “Not really a crime, citizen...yet. But we ARE professionals....You are supposed to be trembling in fear and call us.”

Maybe its just me...


12 posted on 07/02/2012 6:37:34 AM PDT by Adder (Da bro has GOT to go!)
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To: marktwain

He be a good boy.

He be turning his life around.

He just be going for some skittles and ice tea.

Dat killer be racist.


13 posted on 07/02/2012 6:40:35 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Adder

Sorry for the double post...tried to stop it...


14 posted on 07/02/2012 6:40:47 AM PDT by Adder (Da bro has GOT to go!)
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To: Maine Mariner

We had three come up my driveway and through the side yard two weeks ago. It was a mama(300#)and two yearlings(125# each).

A guy driving by in his car watched them walk across the road in front of him and right up my driveway. He started beaping his horn because my 9 year old beagle bitch Honey was about 25 feet away from the mama and barking at her.
Honey did not like those bears in HER yard.

These three bears have been seen several times over the last month in my area of southern NH. They have become comfortable around houses. They know that people put out food to feed the birds, squirrels, turkeys, etc.


15 posted on 07/02/2012 6:49:15 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: coloradan

Or a 30 round magazine.


16 posted on 07/02/2012 6:52:40 AM PDT by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: woodbutcher1963

They know that people put out food to feed the birds, squirrels, turkeys,bears etc


17 posted on 07/02/2012 6:53:08 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: marktwain
.22 LR? .223? 22-250? 220 Swift? Maybe .22 Remington Jet? Lot's of other 22 caliber cartridges out there besides rim-fire.

Regardless, if rim-fire's all you have, It's better than a frying pan.

18 posted on 07/02/2012 6:55:22 AM PDT by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: marktwain

Maybe the report of a .22 is to cover legalities — could it be everything larger than .22 is banned in NY !


19 posted on 07/02/2012 6:55:38 AM PDT by George from New England (Ecaped CT in 2006, moved to north of Tampa)
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To: Boogieman
*** Bear steaks, anyone? ***

I actually had that once at some Hunting Club Dinner when I was about 18 - 'Black Bear Steak'. As I recall it was a tad 'gamey' and the meat was 'stringy'. And when you're used to only beef it would take some getting used to.

And it does not taste like chicken. ;-)

20 posted on 07/02/2012 6:56:25 AM PDT by Condor51 (Never mess with an old man. He won't fight you he'll just kill you.)
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To: t1b8zs

More likely, the bears are overpopulating for the territory they have. Time to SSS and thin the herd.


21 posted on 07/02/2012 6:57:36 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: woodbutcher1963

Heh. I had a beagle when I was a kid. He got upset enough when squirrels came into his yard. A bear would have had him foaming at the mouth, all the hair on his back standing up. I’m pretty sure he could have shooed a bear away. A bear would have found him too small and annoying to mess with.


22 posted on 07/02/2012 6:59:36 AM PDT by FlyVet
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To: SaraJohnson
the bears are overpopulating for the territory they have. Time to SSS and thin the herd.

We have the same problem with liberals around here. Is it a good idea to apply the same philosophy?

23 posted on 07/02/2012 6:59:36 AM PDT by wbill
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To: paulcissa
I just read the response thread on the website. Some of those NY folks are pretty whacky. No one carries a gun on their property there, that's for sure!

I'm just a bit south into NJ, but I wont work my acreage without a sidearm or rifle. Too many coyote, bear and whacky people around here.

24 posted on 07/02/2012 7:02:30 AM PDT by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: marktwain
Stony Point Resident Shoots Black Bear During Family Barbecue

Figures. Wait until the National Association for the Advancement of Colored Bears (NAACB) hears about this, not to mention the New Black Bears (NBB).

And I can't wait to see Al Sharpteeth and Jawsy Jackson bemoaning the plight of minority bears.

25 posted on 07/02/2012 7:03:29 AM PDT by Lazamataz (People who resort to Godwin's Law are just like Hitler.)
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To: marktwain

If you give a bear some barbecue…he’s going to want a beer.


26 posted on 07/02/2012 7:06:24 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: coloradan

Killing a bear with a .22 falls into the realm of Divine intervention. For an eye shot, you’d have to be able to hit a moving and partially obscured target the size of a 50 cent piece, under duress. The round would have to enter at just the right angle so as to not embed itself in the orbital bone, or ricochet off from a pathway to the brain. And, most importantly, being a rim fire, you’d have to count on it not misfiring.


27 posted on 07/02/2012 7:07:55 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: marktwain

Just South of Bear Mountain State Park :)

Good Shot!


28 posted on 07/02/2012 7:10:31 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: PowderMonkey

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCahi92EY1k


29 posted on 07/02/2012 7:13:42 AM PDT by Krankor
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To: PowderMonkey; All
Bella Twin killed a world record Grizzly in British Columbia in 1953 with a single shot .22 using .22 longs. http://www.angelfire.com/on2/LandOwner/misc/Grizley1.html
30 posted on 07/02/2012 7:20:19 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
advised Sgt. Wood. "Try not to go near a bear."

Words to live by! :-)

31 posted on 07/02/2012 7:33:28 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: woodbutcher1963

“Honey did not like those bears in HER yard.”

Honey needs to try using a scale and looking in a mirror for a dose of reality. Honey is a snack.


32 posted on 07/02/2012 7:40:07 AM PDT by LevinFan
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To: wbill
" We have the same problem with liberals around here.
Is it a good idea to apply the same philosophy?"
sure....well sorta..
play RUSH LIMBAUGH &/ MICHAEL BERRY
(very loud/continously :)
ROAST MEAT - PORK/BEEF BBQ & CORN ON GRILL
PLAY LEE GREEWOODS' "GOD BLESS THE THE USA"
FLY THE AMERICAN FLAG
& watch out for aimed bullets!
free free to add :-D

33 posted on 07/02/2012 7:41:32 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; different flie$". :^)
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To: Lazamataz

LOL!

Now don’t you be messin’ with dem black bruins. Bear power!

Anyway, if my backyard was in bear country, I wouldn’t aim on one with anything less than 30-06. A 45-70 would give even more peace of mind.


34 posted on 07/02/2012 7:43:03 AM PDT by elcid1970 (Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind. Deus vult!")
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To: wbill
"free free = feel free"....
joy..got in/out before the spelling/
grammar police noticed. :-)

35 posted on 07/02/2012 7:49:11 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; different flie$". :^)
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To: PissAndVinegar

indeed

but anyone who hunts larger game knows that a .22 is unsuitable for game such as black bear

shot placement or not, it’s chancy and too risky to leave a maimed animal or a very slow death

it’s like ego hunting to me...same notion as women having babies in a risky fashion with no medical help around because it’s more pure or natural..yet riskier if complications happen

i don’t hunt predators as a rule but would shoot any to protect myself or mine and would prefer larger caliber...

folks down here where I live in Tennessee who hunt bear use most often probably the ubiquitous .30-06

another note is that tracking a wounded bear of any sort through think cover is certainly not where you want to take that .22 with you that you just used to wound him/her

where seconds count and bullet energy matters

for what it’s worth.....22LR is perfect for squirrel

for those who can’t see or aim as well....20 gauge shotgun in light load will fill yer bag quicker

.410 only come full choke and shoot such a tight box that you have to pick even more lead out and miss more

i confess i don’t eat squirrel anymore...but my kids do...a lot of trouble for a gamey little critter


36 posted on 07/02/2012 7:53:19 AM PDT by wardaddy (John Roberts collection of Sally Quinn's panties just got a hefty contribution this week..)
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To: marktwain
“......A Stony Point resident hosting a family barbecue shot a black bear..........”

Now that there's racist, idn’t it?

37 posted on 07/02/2012 7:54:31 AM PDT by EggsAckley ( There's an Ethiopian in the fuel supply ! ! ..)
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To: marktwain

gun control is hitting your target


38 posted on 07/02/2012 8:02:45 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: SaraJohnson

More likely the humans overpopulated the bears turf


39 posted on 07/02/2012 8:20:26 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: wardaddy
but anyone who hunts larger game knows that a .22 is unsuitable for game such as black bear

A .22 was probably all he had available, in which case he should have gotten everybody into the house and taken his shots from a window. If you're gonna piss off a bear, better to do it from relative safety.

40 posted on 07/02/2012 8:30:52 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (If you quote Mitt Romney you don't have to spin.- Lady Lucky)
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To: marktwain
Just getting Bear Steak for the Independence Day neighborhood BBQ.
41 posted on 07/02/2012 8:38:03 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: LevinFan
She had backup.
Once the bear rounded the corner into the backyard, the rest of the pack of hounds saw the bear and went absolutely nuts. Eight beagles all howling at once. It was pandemonium.
42 posted on 07/02/2012 9:16:14 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: woodbutcher1963

No offense, but I don’t think 8 beagles are going to intimidate a momma bear.

My neighbor has a couple ankle bitters who think they are bears. They even kick sand with their front paws. I guess when you kick sand, that makes you extra badass.


43 posted on 07/02/2012 9:37:08 AM PDT by LevinFan
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To: marktwain

“Stony Point Resident Shoots Black... During Family Barbecue (NY)”

Racism! racism!

Somebody call Trevon’s lawyer!


44 posted on 07/02/2012 9:53:47 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: coloradan

“Shoot him Lisbeth!!”


45 posted on 07/02/2012 10:24:09 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: t1b8zs

Unfortunately for da bears, they are not top on the totem pole of creation. They are overpopulated for the amount of land the illegal invaders have left for them in our country.

However, on the upside they have much more land now available in Mexico and South America.


46 posted on 07/02/2012 12:03:27 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: paulcissa
It's better than a frying pan.

Well....

Better, yes, however, a cast iron skillet can be useful.

Man Uses Cast Iron Skillet to Kill Rabid Mountain Lion, Save His Dog

I don't know about you, but I would include "rabid mountain lion" in one of my worst-case scenarios.

47 posted on 07/02/2012 4:58:41 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: wardaddy

“another note is that tracking a wounded bear of any sort through think cover is certainly not where you want to take that .22 with you that you just used to wound him/her”

Damn right. We ran a black bear and 2 cubs out of camp and they headed into a thicket right beside the tree where the bear bag was tied off. Three of us drew straws to see who it was gonna be to go untie it and re-hang it on a better limb.


48 posted on 07/02/2012 5:17:22 PM PDT by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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