Posted on 06/10/2012 1:50:46 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
A critically ill eight-year-old child is alive today because a Windsor emergency room doctor refused to wait for provincial approval to send the child to a Detroit hospital, according to the patient’s mother and hospital doctor.
“She needed emergency surgery and if you don’t operate she was going to die,” said Dr. David Adekoya, Windsor Regional Hospital’s chief of emergency surgery who was at the hospital when the girl was treated. “She needed to be at a facility within an hour. We needed to make a decision and not wait around.”
.... After the transfer to Detroit was arranged, CritiCall approved it and all medical bills were paid for by the province, according to Mary’s mother and Musyj. A team from Detroit arrived in Windsor with a nurse, respiratory therapist and two paramedics, Mary’s mom said. Mary was diagnosed in Detroit with having multiple aneurysms clustered in her brain.
n the past year, Windsor Regional sent 52 patients to Michigan hospitals, while Hotel-Dieu sent 47 to Detroit area hospitals.
(Excerpt) Read more at windsorstar.com ...
The shattered ribs from the traffic accident.
Maybe a nice calcium supplement to fix those right up?
“So Canada paid for their citizens hospital bill? Then why can’t Mexico do the same?””<< Because Mexicans are thieves and parasites who think the American taxpayer was put on this Earth to care for them.
$80 bucks well spent, doncha’ think?
The elm bark powder would also promote rapid scarless healing of the ribs.
Calcium ‘supplements’ are mostly useless placebos.
Will it gather up the splinters and set the bones as well?
You’re fantasizing in open forum!
Imagine up whatever you wish; that’s all you’re doing anyway.
Slippery elm can and does promote regrowth even of tissue lost in 3rd degree burns, usually without noticable scarring.
Love your tagline.
I’m talking about reliable healing; you’re talking about making quacks rich, that’s the difference.
There are two lines at the border:
Yanks headed north to get affordable drugs.
Canucks headed south to get quicker treatment.
Both systems have their strengths and weaknesses.
Hopefully turn to God’s word and use the herbs he provided for real healing, sans surgery or drugs.
From this the inescapable conclusion is that when a trauma patient comes in with multiple broken bones and organs, and is hemorrhaging, in your world you wouldn't have an eeeeeevil surgeon/quack stop the bleeding, stitch the organs and set the bones.
By your own well considered words you'd only give him slippery elm bark, cayenne and lobelia?
Ooookay
Sucks to be any one of your children.
Sucks to be you, or anyone like you that rejects real, complete healing from natural sources, in favor of stumbling, bumbling vivisection that never quite works, causes even more pain than the original injury, may kill you, leaves one forever crippled or limited, and costs tons of money to boot.
Slippery Elm bark works, and has been known to work for millenia; ditto Lobelia and Capsaicin. Capsaicin stops the bleeding, always has. Lobelia normalizes blood pressure, and releases the diaphram spasm that causes collapsed lungs; always has.
And all of it without the pain and crippling and scarring so attendant to vivisection.
It must be hell to live in fear and ignorance like you.
Ooookay?
Whoa, Dude. Your tagline says it all. Nothing like a bunch of arrogance to win FRiends and influence people.
God gave us hebs and other natural remedies to help us but He has also given us brains to use on possible alternatives to the slow healing that comes from natural medicines.
Hopefully, neither you nor yours is ever in a life-threatening situation where all that was offered was white willow bark and olive leaf extract.
The healing from natural medicine is not slow, it is as fast as the growth of a baby in the womb.
Burns treated with Elm heal in days, and mostly without noticeable scars.
There is a good reason why the Bible denounces doctors: they’re not effective, as Christ noted to the woman that was bleeding.
You astound me with your lack of knowledge. How many other herbal and natural remedies have you actually used, besides the three you mentioned?
What’reyatalkin’about??
The Bible nowhere denounces medical doctors; the Gospel of Luke was written by one, fer cryin’ out loud!
The woman in the biblical account you cited had a problem with some sort of internal hemorrhaging that was beyond the technological ability of the doctors of her day.
In NO WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM does that simple fact amount to a blanket, biblical condemnation of the practice of medicine, nor does it stand as an injunction to people of faith seeking the best in modern medical help.
You make yourself sound like a rabid Jehovah’s Witness spewing all that venomous tripe against modern medical technology. Cut it out; for your own sake if not for anybody else’s.
Luke becamne a real healer when he found the Lord.
Yes, doctors are roundly denounced throught the Bible. The clearest is in Jeremiah Ch 17, where it is made plain that seeking healing through the ways of man is failure.
Also look at the chronicle of King Asa, where it clearly says that he turned away from the way of God to seek healing from men.
Or the woman with the issue of blood that touched Christ’s garment; it says that she wasted all she had on doctors.
There is nothing good said about man’s medicine in the Bible.
>> “ Cut it out; for your own sake if not for anybody else’s.” <<
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Take your own advice, you’re leading people away from the healing the Lord gave us. His Levitical priests were all effective healers, far beyond anything “modern” medicine can imagine, using the herbs God provided.
OK, so Luke was a decent healer before, and a better one afterward. Neither Jesus nor anyone else in the biblical record denounces Luke's profession.
...doctors are roundly denounced throught the Bible.
Not true. Seeking healing from doctors to the exclusion of seeking healing from God is what is roundly condemned in what few places it is mentioned.
...the chronicle of King Asa, where it clearly says that he turned away from the way of God to seek healing from men.
The text says that "in his disease he sought not to the Lord, but to the physicians." Asa's fault was NOT that he "turned away from the way of God," and it was NOT that he sought healing from physicians; Asa's sin was that he never called upon The LORD to heal him, and that he ONLY sought healing from physicians. Moreover, the text makes clear that Asa was a wicked King; he plundered the temple of YHVH, and oppressed the people. So, where the text says "in his disease he sought not to the Lord" it is NOT merely noting that he did not seek physical healing from God, but that his heart was also unrepentant before the Lord. This text is not merely about a physical healing, here; it concerns Asa's spiritual condition, as well.
You cannot legitimately blame those physicians for Asa's failure to seek healing from God; the text doesn't, nor does the text condemn those physicians for trying to heal Asa's feet. That Asa's condition was beyond the medical technology if his time does not impugn the physicians; it only further condemns Asa's failure to seek healing from God.
Or the woman with the issue of blood that touched Christ’s garment; it says that she wasted all she had on doctors.
This vignette is recorded in all three of the synoptic gospels, and only Mark makes any reference at all to the woman's track record of seeking medical help. Mark writes, that she "had suffered many things of many physicians, and had spent all that she had, and was nothing bettered, but rather grew worse."
Evidently her condition was beyond the best medical technology of her day. She hunted down every physician of any repute at all, and none of them could help her, despite their best efforts. Her money was wasted only in the sense that her healing was beyond the most advanced medical knowledge of her time; she was trying to buy what that era couldn't offer. That is decidedly NOT a for-all-time blanket condemnation of the practice of medicine in all places at all times; it is merely an expression of how thoroughly she had exhausted the medical community of her day, and how glorious the healing was that she received from Jesus.
There is nothing good said about man's medicine in the Bible.
Pffft!! Why stop at man's medicine??
The bible has nothing good to say about man's automobiles, man's mobile phones, man's indoor plumbing, man's electrical grid, man's petroleum industry, man's food supply chain, or man's computers; are you going to quit using all of these things simply because they are not lauded in Scripture??
If you don't, you're a hypocrite.
OR...maybe you could simply concede that availing yourself of man's medicine must be every bit as legitimate as availing yourself of all of these other things that you use daily.
You make assertions that are not supported by scripture.
Luke’s “profession” is mentioned in one verse, in a salutation by Paul, and there is no evidence that Luke ever practiced the pharmakea, which were pagan practices. Its far more likely that Paul was giving recognition to Lukes spiritual gifts.
Prior to the release of the spiritual gifts by Christ, the only recourse to healing that was spiritually permissible was the Levite priest.
All secular “medical technology” was pagan idolatry; why do you defend it? Its no different today; reliance on doctors is still idolatry.
>> “Pffft!! Why stop at man’s medicine??
The bible has nothing good to say about man’s automobiles, man’s mobile phones, man’s indoor plumbing, man’s electrical grid, man’s petroleum industry, man’s food supply chain, or man’s computers; are you going to quit using all of these things simply because they are not lauded in Scripture??” <<
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You’re joking, I hope. Do you include ox carts and chariots?
God doesn’t denounce these because they are not idolatry; “medicine” definitely is.
Asa’s diabetic condition was not beyond the legitimate arts of the Levite priest, nor was the issue of blood of the woman. Do you consider Mark to be less inspired of the Holy Spirit for speaking ill of the pagan priests that the woman had turned to?
Salvation includes your health when your trust is completely in the Lord and his word.
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