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ER doctor's quick action saved life of 8-year-old girl Girl sent to Detroit
Windsor Star ^ | June 8, 2012 | Monica Wolfson

Posted on 06/10/2012 1:50:46 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian

A critically ill eight-year-old child is alive today because a Windsor emergency room doctor refused to wait for provincial approval to send the child to a Detroit hospital, according to the patient’s mother and hospital doctor.

“She needed emergency surgery and if you don’t operate she was going to die,” said Dr. David Adekoya, Windsor Regional Hospital’s chief of emergency surgery who was at the hospital when the girl was treated. “She needed to be at a facility within an hour. We needed to make a decision and not wait around.”

.... After the transfer to Detroit was arranged, CritiCall approved it and all medical bills were paid for by the province, according to Mary’s mother and Musyj. A team from Detroit arrived in Windsor with a nurse, respiratory therapist and two paramedics, Mary’s mom said. Mary was diagnosed in Detroit with having multiple aneurysms clustered in her brain.

n the past year, Windsor Regional sent 52 patients to Michigan hospitals, while Hotel-Dieu sent 47 to Detroit area hospitals.

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TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: government; healthcare; medicine; socialized
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I posted this story for two reasons.

Firstly, I want my American friends to note what happens when government takes over health care. Not to go too far into the weeds but, some background. Windsor is in Canada, one mile south of Detroit. There is no pediatric neurosurgeon in Windsor so the girl could not be treated here. The current controversy involves a government sanctioned organization (Criticall) that is supposed to find a place for patients when there is no care available locally. Critical patients are transported by an air ambulance organization, also a quasi-government organization. This doctor had a patient who needed immediate care. He knew that a 30 minute wait while Critical decided what to do and another 4 hour round trip helicopter flight to London, Ontario would mean death for his patient. He cut through the government red tape, secured treatment in Detroit, and saved his patient.

This comes on the heels of a case where a nine year old girl died in a similar incident.

I hope my Canadian friends are as awestruck by the American hospital's response to the situation as I was. The Detroit hospital immediately sent a four person team to escort the patient back to Detroit for treatment. The little girl was operated on and she is recovering nicely. I'm not sure things work like this anywhere else in the world, except for how Israel treats Palestinian patients.

1 posted on 06/10/2012 1:50:57 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: Clive

Ping


2 posted on 06/10/2012 1:54:59 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

This is a very good example of what government health care causes. What will Canadians do when America finally succumbs completely to the socialist disease?


3 posted on 06/10/2012 1:57:00 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: BfloGuy
Well, things won't be so good by then, will they? But, don't worry about Canada, what will happen to the US?

Seriously, with any luck some sense will come to our political leaders. There is no reason that people can't pay a small user fee for a doctor visit or a hospital stay or even an ambulance ride. Believe it or not, a $5 charge for all of these services would go a long way to relieving the situation.

4 posted on 06/10/2012 2:09:17 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

A couple of comments:

GOD BLESS this doctor. He took a heavy risk against the bureaucracy to rescue this child.

Also GOD BLESS the medical team in Detroit. Detroit may get a lot of well-deserved knocks but in this case when it came to what was important, these folks stepped up.


5 posted on 06/10/2012 2:10:34 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: Former Proud Canadian

So Canada paid for their citizen’s hospital bills? Then why can’t Mexico do the same? This would solve at least some of our problems - not that the communists in D.C. actually want this however....

It’s our own government that is against us. Although I guess there’s no point in saying this at FR since you all already know.


6 posted on 06/10/2012 2:12:54 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
As long as a system allows individual initiative to do what's needed it isn't totally broken.

The key question here is "Will the doctor be punished?"

7 posted on 06/10/2012 2:13:28 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1237 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama is not a Big Brother [he's a Big Sissy...])
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To: Springman; sergeantdave; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; ...
A few years back a union leader from Windsor was held in an ambulance at the border. Poetic justice aside, it was wrong stopping him.

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8 posted on 06/10/2012 2:23:16 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

When I was born in 64 the total cost was only a couple hundred dollars.


9 posted on 06/10/2012 2:27:34 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

I was wrong. My mother says the total hospital bill for my delivery was $80 in 1964.


10 posted on 06/10/2012 2:34:59 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

That is $2,800 in today’s dollars. FYI


11 posted on 06/10/2012 2:39:05 PM PDT by Waywardson (If you fear Obama..... vote for Romney. If you fear God... DON'T !)
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To: freedumb2003

Bump!


12 posted on 06/10/2012 2:40:08 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: cripplecreek
When I was born in 64 the total cost was only a couple hundred dollars.

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I was wrong. My mother says the total hospital bill for my delivery was $80 in 1964.

Did you have to yell up from the basement?

:^0)

13 posted on 06/10/2012 2:40:23 PM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Fully expect the Canadian authorities to punish this man. I’d bet on it.


14 posted on 06/10/2012 2:41:45 PM PDT by kjo (+)
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To: Waywardson
That is $2,800 in today’s dollars. FYI

My dad made around $60 per week as a garbage man when I was born.
15 posted on 06/10/2012 2:47:48 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: raybbr
Did you have to yell up from the basement?

Dr Keefer was locally famous for being a drunk but he got the job done and delivered a lot of babies including a few Michigan FReepers.
16 posted on 06/10/2012 2:50:40 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
When I was about 2 or 3 I had my tonsils removed on the kitchen table by a doctor who came out to the house we were living in. This was in about 1945 or 6 and such things were common in those days according to my mother. She had to supply some boiled towels and wash cloths and help the doctor administer chloroform which was sprinkled on a wire mesh screen covered by a wash cloth that was placed over my face. I can remember that green wash cloth to this day and that I got all the ice cream I wanted after the “fun” was over. My mother presented me with a hand written bill signed by a Doctor (who's name I cannot remember) a few years before she died. I think it came to about $12.00, big money for our family in those days I was told.
17 posted on 06/10/2012 3:02:05 PM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: mongo141

I probably would have died if I had my tonsils taken out at home. Apparently some late night bleeding sent me back into emergency surgery.


18 posted on 06/10/2012 3:05:07 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Believe it or not, a $5 charge for all of these services would go a long way to relieving the situation.

Yes, of course. After posting, the obvious answer that Canada would begin to encourage private medical services occurred to me. The socialization of America's health care is probably what it will take.

Harper could surprise, though.

19 posted on 06/10/2012 3:17:44 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: cripplecreek

I have, laying between my arms as I type, a hospital bill incurred by my Aunt in August of 1937. She was treated for appendicitis.

10 days at $4.00 per day, $40.00
Operating room, $15.00
Anesthesia, $10.00
Lab tests, $5.00
Medicines, $2.80
Total, $72.80

Unfortunately, the doctor’s and anesthesiologist’s bills did not survive in our family archives, so I don’t know what they were.

My Aunt lived 45 more years, so the care, at least in this case, was as good then as it is now.


20 posted on 06/10/2012 3:19:11 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (The instinct toward liberalism is located in the part of the brain called the rectal lobe.)
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To: BfloGuy
Remember how liberals would shove our faces in the ‘oh so brilliant' Europeans? How their socialism worked? And what were we afraid of? Well, turns out the price was too high. Greece, Spain, Portugal, France, Ireland ... broke. Ka-put. Not so brilliant now...
21 posted on 06/10/2012 3:37:12 PM PDT by GOPJ (Take your little hammer, little sickle and your scary red signs with a fist on it, and go home...)
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To: RobinOfKingston

My sainted mother used to tell stories of making food for and taking it to someone in the hospital. I guess this was common.


22 posted on 06/10/2012 3:39:46 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: null and void

Re post 7, no, if you read the article you will see that Windsor sends about 2 patients a week to Detroit for treatment. The problem was getting authorization to do so. The doctor got the authorization after he made the call.


23 posted on 06/10/2012 4:37:47 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: raybbr

>>Did you have to yell up from the basement? <<

Some people care for their aged parents.


24 posted on 06/10/2012 4:38:30 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: kjo

I’d take your bet, but I would be past posting.


25 posted on 06/10/2012 4:39:18 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
if you read the article you will see that Windsor sends about 2 patients a week to Detroit for treatment. The problem was getting authorization to do so. The doctor got the authorization after he made the call.

Officially or Un-Officially? Rumor is they have EMS -Ambulances just waiting to go over in Windsor just to get treatment in Detroit, which by the way has the most sought after ER residence Doctors in the country, due to what they see.

One of my gnomes tells me "pre-mee's" are often sent here ( around Buffalo a lot) because we can do things for them here we can't.

It gets sad for the little ones if mom or dad did something stupid like a pot bust, when the kid is sick, they can't get into the States to see it....

26 posted on 06/10/2012 4:50:55 PM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Things must be pretty bad with Canada’s health care system if they have to send patients to Detroit (DETROIT!) to get proper medical care.


27 posted on 06/10/2012 5:22:12 PM PDT by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the People's Republic of Boulder)
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To: BfloGuy

>> “This is a very good example of what government health care causes.” <<

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Amen!

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>> “What will Canadians do when America finally succumbs completely to the socialist disease?” <<

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Hopefully turn to God’s word and use the herbs he provided for real healing, sans surgery or drugs.
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28 posted on 06/10/2012 5:35:15 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Well, God bless that doctor and also the team from Detroit.

What struck me is that even in on of our most messed up cities, you can still get world class health care.

This is what makes me so sick of the left, everything is bad to them, nothing is ever good or worthy of praise.

I think many of them would like to go back to the old feudal days, we’ll be the serfs and they’ll be our lords and masters.


29 posted on 06/10/2012 5:36:38 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: BfloGuy

I think its pretty clear what they will do. Like us, they will die.


30 posted on 06/10/2012 6:01:46 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: cripplecreek; Waywardson
I was wrong. My mother says the total hospital bill for my delivery was $80 in 1964.

And back then she likely stayed in the hospital for quite some time. Does she remember how long?

31 posted on 06/10/2012 6:38:53 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: jocon307

As I understand it, DMC is a fine hospital. They see lots of trauma cases which tends to make good emergency care docs. They also provide sports medical care for the Tigers and I assume other pro sports in Detroit.

Besides, just down the road is UofM which is largely a med school with some top notch hospitals.


32 posted on 06/10/2012 6:42:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
This doctor probably realized that US lawyers could not sue him for practicing medicine in Canada. If he had brought this girl to Detroit and the outcome had been bad he would have had every ambulance chaser piling on.
The statute of limitations does not apply to pediatric cases gone badly,
33 posted on 06/10/2012 6:59:12 PM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: Bellflower

I think back then it was only a few days but Albion Michigan isn’t a big town and it was a small hospital which makes a difference.


34 posted on 06/10/2012 7:10:01 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: editor-surveyor
Hopefully turn to God’s word and use the herbs he provided for real healing, sans surgery or drugs.

Pray tell, what herbs are good for a collapsed lung, lacerated liver and ruptured spleen following a traffic accident?

35 posted on 06/10/2012 7:32:50 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1237 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama is not a Big Brother [he's a Big Sissy...])
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Good! Both the US and the Canadian systems have their strengths and weaknesses.


36 posted on 06/10/2012 7:36:59 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1237 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama is not a Big Brother [he's a Big Sissy...])
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To: sima_yi

Detroit is a cesspool in many, many ways but the city’s medical facilities have always been top notch. In spite of living in the fairly affluent suburbs, whenever a member of my family needed specialized care, we went to a Detroit hospital. Thinking back, the same was true of many of the families in my neighborhood.


37 posted on 06/10/2012 7:50:42 PM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: null and void
And neither system would fly in the other country.

Canadians think their health care is "free". Of course it isn't.

American hospitals that I have seen look like upscale hotels. Most Canadian hospitals are somewhat run down as the government saves money on repairs.

I like to tell this true story. Remember, you just flash your health card and you get health care. Years ago I had a small wood sliver in my foot. There was no one home to pull it out and I couldn't reach it so I went to the clinic. A real live medical doctor pulled out my sliver. What a waste of talent, and taxpayer money, but that's just how it is.

38 posted on 06/10/2012 8:31:13 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: sima_yi

See post 32.


39 posted on 06/10/2012 8:36:53 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: null and void

>> “Pray tell, what herbs are good for a collapsed lung, lacerated liver and ruptured spleen following a traffic accident?” <<

Slippery elm bark is definitely the choice for the lacerated liver and for the spleen, along with cayenne to control the hemorrhaging. For the lung it would be advantageous to know the cause. Lobelia would certainly be helpful in any case; surgery almost never is.


40 posted on 06/10/2012 9:12:12 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: editor-surveyor

The shattered ribs from the traffic accident.

Maybe a nice calcium supplement to fix those right up?


41 posted on 06/10/2012 9:16:14 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1237 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama is not a Big Brother [he's a Big Sissy...])
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To: Aria

“So Canada paid for their citizens hospital bill? Then why can’t Mexico do the same?””<< Because Mexicans are thieves and parasites who think the American taxpayer was put on this Earth to care for them.


42 posted on 06/10/2012 9:17:47 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: cripplecreek

$80 bucks well spent, doncha’ think?


43 posted on 06/10/2012 9:21:12 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: null and void

The elm bark powder would also promote rapid scarless healing of the ribs.

Calcium ‘supplements’ are mostly useless placebos.


44 posted on 06/10/2012 9:29:35 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Will it gather up the splinters and set the bones as well?


45 posted on 06/10/2012 9:42:46 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1237 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama is not a Big Brother [he's a Big Sissy...])
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To: null and void

You’re fantasizing in open forum!

Imagine up whatever you wish; that’s all you’re doing anyway.

Slippery elm can and does promote regrowth even of tissue lost in 3rd degree burns, usually without noticable scarring.


46 posted on 06/10/2012 10:17:45 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: editor-surveyor
You would treat an accident victim with multiple broken ribs, a collapsed lung, a ruptured spleen and a lacerated liver (not an uncommon suite of injuries in a major traffic accident) with nothing more than slippery elm bark, cayenne pepper and lobelia, and I'm fantasizing in open forum?

Love your tagline.

47 posted on 06/10/2012 10:30:07 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1237 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama is not a Big Brother [he's a Big Sissy...])
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To: null and void

I’m talking about reliable healing; you’re talking about making quacks rich, that’s the difference.


48 posted on 06/10/2012 11:01:05 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian; grellis
My point, which I probably did not make very well, was that Detroit, arguably the most dysfunctional large city in America, has medical care not available under the Canadian system.
IMHO, the only thing keeping the Canadian system working is the fact that the US is immediately to the south.
49 posted on 06/11/2012 7:42:18 AM PDT by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the People's Republic of Boulder)
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To: sima_yi

There are two lines at the border:

Yanks headed north to get affordable drugs.
Canucks headed south to get quicker treatment.

Both systems have their strengths and weaknesses.


50 posted on 06/11/2012 8:16:35 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1237 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama is not a Big Brother [he's a Big Sissy...])
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