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(Vanity) My 8-yr old got an F on assignment for not knowing "Human Rights" and "Tolerance"
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Posted on 03/29/2012 7:51:55 PM PDT by indianrightwinger

I was checking my 8-yr old son's classwork assignment grades. He was so demoralized that he was getting C, D and F on many assignments. I was shocked and delved deeper. Turns out he is assiged a letter grade on these assignments even though he is "making progress" getting up to 70 or even 80 percent of the questions right. Worse, he was assigned an F grade on an assignment because he did not get the meaning for terms "Human Rights" and "Tolerance".

WTF is an 8-yr old supposed to know this shtuff?

Damn....I am seriously considering pulling him out of school and home schooling.


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1 posted on 03/29/2012 7:52:06 PM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: indianrightwinger

Private school maybe?


2 posted on 03/29/2012 7:53:48 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President To Have Served In My Lifetime.)
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To: indianrightwinger; metmom

You could get a lot of good advice on that here, from what I can tell.


3 posted on 03/29/2012 7:54:14 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: indianrightwinger

Damn....I am seriously considering pulling him out of school and home schooling.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Do it. Do it now!

It will only get worse.


4 posted on 03/29/2012 7:55:25 PM PDT by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: indianrightwinger

The “public school” is BY FAR, the largest, most expensive, most subversive, and most destructive entitlement program in the country.

The “public school” is better understood as the “government school collective”.

It is silly to imagine that you can fix the public schools, because the very concept itself is communist.

Any child that comes out of the government school collective with their moral compass and common sense intact does so in spite of the government school indoctrination, not because of it.

If you want to win the culture war, have lots of children (see my tagline) and homeschool them or form your own school cooperative with your church or synagogue and like-minded friends and relatives.

Nobody loves your children more than you do.

Nobody can teach your children like you can.

Your children would love nothing better than to be taught by you, if you start doing so before they are corrupted by the government school collective.

It is hypocritical for you to submit your children to an authority with whom you fundamentally disagree. And your children will know it.

If you have children, make whatever sacrifices you must to get them out of the public schools.

DO NOT FEED THE BEAST!

Especially not with your own children.


5 posted on 03/29/2012 7:56:00 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: indianrightwinger

Homeschool. He’ll thank you later. Maybe later this week.

Signed, a homeschool graduate


6 posted on 03/29/2012 7:56:06 PM PDT by JenB
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To: indianrightwinger
Punch your teacher in the nose, then procede to the principals office to tell them that you were only being tolerant.

Then give your 8 year old a vacation to Disneyland ;) /sarc

7 posted on 03/29/2012 7:56:29 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (Tagline removed at the request of someone who doesn't "get" Monty Python or Shakespeare.)
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To: indianrightwinger

They wanted some kind of an “affirmation of depravity” and “rejection of Biblical principles” answer.

I will clear the halls in my kids’ school if that starts up.


8 posted on 03/29/2012 7:56:41 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: indianrightwinger
at minimum i'd be telling the principal i demand a sit down including the teacher to have the grades revised...
9 posted on 03/29/2012 7:57:36 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: indianrightwinger

Definitions:

“Human Rights” are what justifies absolute government control over the entire planet.

“Tolerance” is the organized hatred of white male heterosexual Christians who are not leftists.


10 posted on 03/29/2012 7:57:43 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: indianrightwinger

And it didn’t occur to you to actually look over any of the things they are teaching your kid?

I’m assuming you kid has school books? Did you read them yourself?

No trying to be sarcastic, but how can parents be outraged about what’s happening in schools when they don’t take the time to learn what your kids are being taught.


11 posted on 03/29/2012 7:57:54 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: indianrightwinger

And it didn’t occur to you to actually look over any of the things they are teaching your kid?

I’m assuming your kid has school books? Did you read them yourself?

No trying to be sarcastic, but how can parents be outraged about what’s happening in schools when they don’t take the time to learn what your kids are being taught.


12 posted on 03/29/2012 7:58:12 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: indianrightwinger

Decision time? I can sympathize.

You won’t beat your public school system in time to help your kids.

Private home or move are your choices.


13 posted on 03/29/2012 7:58:42 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: indianrightwinger
I am seriously considering pulling him out of school and home schooling.

BEST IDEA.

14 posted on 03/29/2012 7:59:15 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: indianrightwinger

Help him write a paper on free speech and tolerance of views that fly in the face of Government. Explain the Declaration of Independence as the source of the founding of America.


15 posted on 03/29/2012 8:00:46 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: indianrightwinger
We have my 8 year old niece in a Christian school. A lot better and less of the PC crap, though she tells me she would vote for Obama (because he's cool). Definitely head to a private school if you can, my niece is way ahead of the public kids a way ahead of where i was at that age. Even so, we are considering homeschooling at some point with extended family. It's a zoo out there.
16 posted on 03/29/2012 8:00:55 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: indianrightwinger

Public school should always be the LAST choice, not the first


17 posted on 03/29/2012 8:02:04 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: indianrightwinger

They don’t teach your child, they indoctrinate him.


18 posted on 03/29/2012 8:04:59 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Gay State Conservative

Private school is no better. My kids still have to take standardized tests from the government. My 9 year could not wait to tell me that one question was:

“What happens when taxes are cut?” and the answers were:

“Schools lose funding”
“Police and Fire Departments lose funding”
something else he did not remember
and “All of the above”

He told me if the government takes less of our money we can go to McDonalds or the video game store and buy things with OUR money. I was sooooo proud.


19 posted on 03/29/2012 8:05:46 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Tax codes and spending don't get 14 year olds pregnant and on welfare. Morality Matters.)
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To: indianrightwinger

dont consider it... DO IT. You can teach your own kid in a shorter amount of time. Better and have fun. we have home schooled our kids all the way through. They start at 9 done by noon. of course they are constantly learning so they are really not out of school... shhh dont tell them.


20 posted on 03/29/2012 8:07:46 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: indianrightwinger

I don’t know if you have seen The Pioneer Woman on Food network but she homeschools and has a link on her website for fellow homeschoolers. Pretty awesome stuff there.

(Oh and FWIW, in elementary school, my history classes never got past the Civil War. Now, I can tell you all about the Underground Railroad, Uncle Tom’s Cabin and Dred Scott but virtually nothing about anything that happened after that. I bet you can guess where my teacher’s interests were.)

http://thepioneerwoman.com/homeschooling/


21 posted on 03/29/2012 8:08:11 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: DaxtonBrown
Not too impressed with your "Christian" school if it spawns Obama voters like that. My kids' public school tends to be very anti-Obama and pro-tradition, but it depends on where you live. We do not live in a wealthy area, either, just a conservative one.
22 posted on 03/29/2012 8:10:42 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

“Education is a weapon whose effects depend on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed.”

Joseph Stalin


23 posted on 03/29/2012 8:13:14 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Solyent Pink is Sheeple!!!!)
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To: indianrightwinger

I know a retired public school teacher that is of the opinion that sending a child to public school is a form of child abuse.


24 posted on 03/29/2012 8:16:56 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: indianrightwinger

My 16 year old daughter is a university sophomore. Homeschooling can seem daunting, but it really isn’t that hard to do. There are many, many resources readily available with the iternet. Public school will indoctrinate and demoralize your son, potentially destroying a promising future. I wish you the best.


25 posted on 03/29/2012 8:19:37 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: indianrightwinger
Homeschool. Do some research online for resources. It's likely much easier than you think. You'll never regret it and your child will be forever grateful.
26 posted on 03/29/2012 8:21:26 PM PDT by CelesteChristi
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To: BenLurkin

Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing.


27 posted on 03/29/2012 8:22:32 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: indianrightwinger
I am seriously considering pulling him out of school and home schooling.

Your instincts are, of course, correct. Get him out of the government schools.

28 posted on 03/29/2012 8:24:10 PM PDT by iowamark (The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, But in ourselves)
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To: indianrightwinger
What is your child doing in public skewl?
29 posted on 03/29/2012 8:26:53 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: indianrightwinger

Find yourself an old-fashioned Christian religious private school. I don't suppose you are anywhere near Gwinnett County? Sola Fide elementary is a WELS school : "Sola Fide is also a part of the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod (WELS). WELS churches operate over 300 elementary schools and nearly 400 preschools. According to the U.S. Department of Education, WELS teachers and principals spend more time in classroom instruction and in school-related student activities than any other school group in the United States. More student-teacher contact leads to more learning and higher achievement. This rich heritage of education in Lutheran schools is a big part of what makes Sola Fide a great school."


30 posted on 03/29/2012 8:28:06 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: indianrightwinger
My oldest made it through public "school" with some semblance of common sense. (kudos to him) We've pulled our youngest out and off to a combination private/home school.

I have both friends and relatives in education. Every single one of them despises no child left behind. All that means is kids get shoved up and out, ready or not. Along the way it had dumbed-down the classroom so that they can be shoved up and out. Mix in a healthy dose of socialism via the teachers unions... Public "schools" are worthless.

31 posted on 03/29/2012 8:31:00 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: indianrightwinger

Here is a human right

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGPe0jDCUqI&feature=fvst

Here is tolerance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXXkeppex3Y


32 posted on 03/29/2012 8:37:38 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Westbrook
I believe Westbrook has said it best.

To paraphrase....
Government Education is a monster.
Do not feed it your children.

33 posted on 03/29/2012 8:40:09 PM PDT by sjmjax (Politicans are like bananas - they start out green, turn yellow, then rot.)
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My friends kid was up from Texas (where he is actually in a very good school). She told me he was having some trouble in his algebra 2 class (mostly in graphing rational functions stuff like (X^2 - x + 6)/(X^2 -4)), and asked if I could help. Though I use fairly high level math all the time, I hadn’t done that particular kind of thing since I was his age 28 years ago. I thought about it for a while, and formulated a plan in my head. The next day, as we got started, I asked him how his teacher explained how to do it. I was entertained with the most complicated explanation I had ever seen. I proceeded to show him the simple steps I had formulated in my head the night before, and one hour later he had fully got it. He was amazed that in one hour I made him fully understand with simple concise rules what his teacher was unable to explain in 3 weeks.


34 posted on 03/29/2012 8:40:49 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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oops, X^2 -4 is irrational, meant X^2 + 4, lol


35 posted on 03/29/2012 8:43:41 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: Chode

You might be better off demanding the principal teach the value of capitalization, grammar, and punctuation.


36 posted on 03/29/2012 8:48:59 PM PDT by stormer
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To: indianrightwinger

If you love your children, then how can you entrust their education to these godless left wing brainwashers? If you aren’t working outside the home, then who better to educate them than you?


37 posted on 03/29/2012 8:49:34 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: eyedigress

The irony of your post is delicious...


38 posted on 03/29/2012 8:51:59 PM PDT by stormer
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To: indianrightwinger

Short version:

My daughter had to do a History final essay on the American revolution. She came home with a respectable grade and I smile.

The essay ENDED at Paul Revere’s ride.

I asked her where the actual ‘war’ was in her essay She said, “Dad, that’s all they taught us.”

That’s all you will ever need to know to understand why this country is screwed. Apply that knowledge accordingly.


39 posted on 03/29/2012 8:59:58 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: indianrightwinger

Hey man.

make that school hear you roar

mine hears me...they know we are suffer no lib fool righties

and they tread with care around my kids

i raise hell at them...

and wifey is even worse about than me

little secret:

even the most daft poster here is more informed than the numbnut fembots in charge of teaching your kids and trying to make little queers out of your male kids and Faludis out of yer girls

anywhere in the US...even in Dixie...the textbooks are eat up with political correctness

man hating, white hating and Christ bashing and most teachers just regurgitate

but if you challenge them, they fold out of fear and ignorance immediately

or you can homeschool ..

private Christian schools are barely less PC except maybe some fundie ones....but here in Middle TN the Church of Christ schools still plaster Mandela and MLK all over the walls in February like public

and secular private schools are actually even more liberal

anyhow...you can train yer kid to know BS from school on history and lit and environmental crap...make sure to stay on top of it and help them train the teacher

she gives out bad grades just for disagreeing then get yer butt down there and let em hear ya

54

father of 5 from 5-23

who grew up when America really was beautiful and safe and kids had both parents and the vast majority of minorities were not anti white and behaved

it was Leave it to Beaver largely or The Brady Bunch or My Three Sons

be prepared and get tough

political correctness made a loud protective Jewish momma outta me at my kids school...they know I will respond


40 posted on 03/29/2012 9:02:59 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: dsrtsage
The next day, as we got started, I asked him how his teacher explained how to do it. I was entertained with the most complicated explanation I had ever seen. I proceeded to show him the simple steps I had formulated in my head the night before, and one hour later he had fully got it. He was amazed that in one hour I made him fully understand with simple concise rules what his teacher was unable to explain in 3 weeks.

I tutored a sophmore in high school recently in mathematics, chemistry and cellular biology. I was utterly appalled at how convoluted the teacher's procedural explanations were in math, and how crazily the subject matter bounced around - yet demanded ridiculous levels of detail - in chemistry and cellular biology. There was simply no way for the student to grasp functional relationships, because they seemed to be deliberately destroyed by the curriculum organization, which demanded rote memorization of thousands of apparently disconnected facts.

It was so extreme, it was evil - teaching, in order to prevent comprehension. ALL of the students had private tutors (no surprise). And this was at a highly accredited high school in a wealthy area. It's just madness.

41 posted on 03/29/2012 9:09:45 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: indianrightwinger

I was confronted with this bull twenty plus years ago. homeschooling or private school was not an option.

My actions

We all can make a difference one person at a time. And I encourage you to do the same.

NEVER be confrontational. Always be calm when confronting the teachers and administrators. They stop listening and you get branded a crazy forever.

Monitor and review your childrens school work weekly. Never raise your voice or hit your head on the wall. The kids do not understand and it only scares them.

Never talk above their head but always talk to them on their level of understanding

Arm yourself with knowledge regarding the subject matter they are teaching. Learn how THEIR system works. Not the way you think it should work. (remember . . . do not hit your head on the wall. It only hurts you and hard to explain to the neighbors)

Slowly but surely begin objecting to the study material and teaching material in a sane and reasonable manner. Offer solutions . . . calmly

You will NOT see results for a long time.

Many many years later I can look back and smile and say to myself, a difference was made.

one person at a time, one word at a time and shall i dare say in the spirit of love of the Christian doctrine


42 posted on 03/29/2012 9:11:55 PM PDT by saywhatagain
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To: indianrightwinger

They aren’t supposed to know antyhing about human rights because it is all liberal bullshit.


43 posted on 03/29/2012 9:13:37 PM PDT by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: indianrightwinger

Just do it.


44 posted on 03/29/2012 9:30:20 PM PDT by agrarianlady
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To: indianrightwinger

Here in WI, there is no way in hell I’d have a kid in a public school. No way. Home school or Christian school only. Public schools are nothing more than socialism factories funded by force using the property tax. What a scam. They’re the mob,taking our money by force, using it to “educate” children, while they all get rich off overburdened taxpayers. Bunch of freakin’ leeches. (wait, let me tell you how I really feel about public school employees....)


45 posted on 03/29/2012 9:34:13 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." T. Jefferson (I AM ANDREW BREITBART))
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To: indianrightwinger

“Damn....I am seriously considering pulling him out of school...”

Be thankful that you’re finding out early enough to give your kid a chance at life. Many of us out here have been SCREAMING for people to give up the granite and the plasma and get their kids out of those institutions. Of course we’re laughed at, since bad schools ONLY exist in ‘other’ neighborhoods.


46 posted on 03/29/2012 9:35:07 PM PDT by BobL (I don't care about his past - Santorum will BRING THE FIGHT to Obama)
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To: Shadowstrike

Do you really think that there is a textbook for social justice for third graders? The curriculum is probably supplied through the union with the help of some community organizing group.


47 posted on 03/29/2012 9:49:03 PM PDT by Eva
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To: indianrightwinger

“Tolerance,” to lefties, means shutting down all opposition and shutting off their communications. The most intolerant people in the world are “tolerant” leftists.

My own daughter, when I was visiting her in college, told me they didn’t allow people to watch Fox news in their house. She still doesn’t understand the irony regarding tolerance.


48 posted on 03/29/2012 10:03:02 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: indianrightwinger

Tolerance is accepting a meaning for the word tolerance that does not agree with your own meaning...in other words, allowing what you disagree with. Did you find out what answer the teacher was hoping for? Maybe you could volunteer in the classroom a couple of half days a week for awhile and get a broader sense of what is going on there. Public school is no place for a kid these days though.


49 posted on 03/29/2012 10:04:53 PM PDT by Anima Mundi
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To: indianrightwinger

Pull him out, please. Many people know a lot about online and other kinds of excellent cirrcula (sp?).

The indoctrination will only get worse. You will never, ever regret home schooling and neither will your son.


50 posted on 03/29/2012 10:12:19 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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