Posted on 03/16/2012 10:34:27 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
With tensions at an all time high in Afghanistan following the Koran burnings, the urination video, and the killing of 16 civilians attention is now falling on a long line of "Infidel" apparel and gear.
Exhausted from how they feel they're being perceived, troops have taken to wearing patches and carrying items that label themselves infidels and offer translation in local dialect.
In the Muslim world an infidel means literally "one without faith" who rejects the central teachings of Islam.
Military.com tracked down Clayton Montgomery at Mil-Spec Monkey, a large online seller of infidel gear, who says his most popular item by far is the "Pork Eating Crusader Patch."
(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...
Love the fangs!
I’d get some too if he were eating an easily-identified piece of bacon.
The crusader on the patch looks like he’s eating a bull scrotum.
Gotta love the idea, though.
It ranks right up there with my wish to see the Saudi flag alight.
If this is true God Bless our soldiers! The terms and symbols developed by our men in the field get right to the point and are UN-PC!
I guess we can now refer to SecDef ‘Pancetta’ /s
You wouldn’t be allowed to wear it on your uniform at all. It might be a hit, but I doubt it’s on any American uniforms.
Doesn’t really matter what’s on it, you can’t just add a patch to your combat uniform as far as I know.
Sign me up.
It would make a great tattoo though!
Is there an actual difference between the flesh of a pig and that of a Saracen? Apart from the dryness that is.
People have all the diseases that can infect another person. Eat someone who had Hepatitis - get Hepatitis, etc, etc, etc.
Sort of like mucking about in Egyptian tombs isn't such a good idea. Breathing in spores of microbes that have evolved over the last few thousand years to digest dessicated human flesh? What could go wrong?
“The Crusaders, when out of pork, would (at the siege of Antioch at least) dine upon the flesh of the dead ‘Saracen’. It was reported that it was a little dry, but with a bit of mead - it did not go down ill. ;) “
Citations, please.
Thanks.
I remember reading about this.
http://www.crusades-encyclopedia.com/cannibalism.html
It’s not so much historically verified, but it’s at the least hyperbole on the actual goings on. Old wives’ tales, if you will. Remember, the winners write the history.
I got it from several different sources - including Harold Lamb and his book on the Crusades. Runciman as well. They in turn got it from several sources - both Christian and Muslim.
From the article cited above.........
Radulph of Caen, an eyewitness to events at Ma’arra in 1098, wrote, “In Ma’arra our troops boiled pagan adults in cooking-pots; they impaled children on spits and devoured them grilled.” (1)
The chronicler Albert of Aix seemed to rank Muslims lower than dogs when he wrote, “Not only did our troops not shrink from eating dead Turks and Saracens; they also ate dogs!”
Guibert of Nogent, in his work Historia Hierosolymitana, provides more details on the incident of cannibalism at Ma’arra. There he notes that whenever the Tafurs who took part in the expedition discovered “scraps of flesh from the pagan's bodies” cannibalism was practiced with little discretion. According to Guibert, the Tafurs were well aware that the Muslims feared them because of cannibalism. For that reason, on at least one occasion, the Tafurs publicly “roasted the bruised body of a Turk over a fire as if it were meat for eating, in full view of the Turkish forces.” Guibert notes that the Franks also practiced cannibalism, but they did so “in secret and as rarely as possible.”
Oh, How I love it! (and I don't even pork!)
Did you click through to the article?
The winner? The winner of the First Crusade was the Crusaders - and they wrote about cannibalism during the siege of Antioch.
The winner of the entire Crusades was the Muslims (a couple hundred years later) and they TOO wrote about cannibalism during the siege of Antioch.
When both sides of a conflict agree on a point - it is pretty well historically verified.
Sure. There’s no way any American soldier is allowed to wear such a patch on the uniform.
I love the patch, but I would not have worn it on my uniform, nor would any of my superiors have tolerated it being on my uniform.
They would not have tolerated any unauthorized patch, regardless.
There’s also the way we wear patches now and how they attach to the uniform. IIRC, you can’t just add a patch these days. They are velcro now, right?
I do note that the German soldier appears to have it on a radio.
Cool patch. For some reason it reminds me of a woman I met that told me she gets sick eating pork but loved carnitas burritos. Teaching her to read fine print and a word in Spanish was scary.
The interpitation of “eating a bull scrotum” should give an equal scarey message to the goat daters as well.
I agree. The photo could be shopped or the guy could have put on the patch for a second for a photo op. I also bet a few are on uniforms of small units away from main bases.
The article doesn’t say how many of these things are being sold over there.
I would agree that it’s very unlikely that any troops would, or could, wear these on their uniforms. But they might like them enough to have a few to pass around or keep among their personal items. Or they might have one in a pocket and flash it around. At this stage of the war under Obama and Panetta, I think the NCOs would not be inclined to object, as long as they weren’t actually on their shoulders.
Know when I served over 50 years ago, all patches had to be standard issue, anything else as to even size or coloration of regulation patches were verboten.
I love the patch, but I would not have worn it on my uniform, nor would any of my superiors have tolerated it being on my uniform.
They would not have tolerated any unauthorized patch, regardless.
But what’s really funny is that this same superiors won’t allow nighttime raids, allows afghans to be armed around our troops, has such messed up ROE that air and artillery support aren’t timely and let’s f#ggots kiss each other in front of your kids when you get back from deployment.
Plate carriers, gear pouches, and other nylon gear are covered with velcro to attach patches. I've seen about a billion pics of guys in theater with all kinds of morale patches on their gear. Whether they were breaking some regulation or not, I wouldn't know.
They don’t use standard Velcro though, I think. IIRC, it does not make the loud ripping sound when you pull it apart.
Besides, I agree with the other poster, if this were an American thing, the Crusader would be eating a readily identifiable slice of bacon, not what appears to be a fish. :-)
Looks to me like everything is Velcro anyway, so easy swap, just sayin.
Some have speculated that deadly fungus could have grown in the enclosed tombs and been released when they were open to the air. Arthur Conan Doyle favored this idea, and speculated that the mold had been placed deliberately to punish grave robbers.
A newspaper report printed following Carnarvon’s death is also believed to have been responsible for the wording of the curse most frequently associated with Tutankhamun – “Death shall come on swift wings to him who disturbs the peace of the King” – a phrase which does not actually appear among the hieroglyphs in KV62, even though it was said to appear in several different places.
While there is no evidence that such pathogens killed Lord Carnarvon, there is no doubt that dangerous materials can accumulate in old tombs. Recent studies of newly opened ancient Egyptian tombs that had not been exposed to modern contaminants found pathogenic bacteria of the Staphylococcus and Pseudomonas genera, and the moulds Aspergillus niger and Aspergillus flavus. Additionally, newly opened tombs often become roosts for bats, and bat guano may harbour histoplasmosis. However, at the concentrations typically found, these pathogens are generally only dangerous to persons with weakened immune systems.
Air samples taken from inside an unopened sarcophagus through a drilled hole showed high levels of ammonia, formaldehyde and hydrogen sulfide; these gases are all toxic, but are easily detected by their strong odours. Hydrogen sulfide is detectable at low concentrations (Up to 100PPM) beyond which it acts as a nerve agent on the olfactory senses. At 1000ppm it will kill with a single inhalation. [19]
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Wrap them in bacon.
I never said it wasn’t physically possible...
It’s just not going to happen, imo.
Ping to you. Be safe on your trip.
Ping to you. Be safe on your trip.
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