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This Pork Eating Crusader Patch Is A Huge Hit With Troops In Afghanistan
Business Insider ^ | March 16, 2012 | Robert Johnson

Posted on 03/16/2012 10:34:27 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian

With tensions at an all time high in Afghanistan following the Koran burnings, the urination video, and the killing of 16 civilians attention is now falling on a long line of "Infidel" apparel and gear.

Exhausted from how they feel they're being perceived, troops have taken to wearing patches and carrying items that label themselves infidels and offer translation in local dialect.

In the Muslim world an infidel means literally "one without faith" who rejects the central teachings of Islam.

Military.com tracked down Clayton Montgomery at Mil-Spec Monkey, a large online seller of infidel gear, who says his most popular item by far is the "Pork Eating Crusader Patch."

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; crusader; infidel; military; porkeatingcrusader
I'm getting some.
1 posted on 03/16/2012 10:34:34 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: Former Proud Canadian

2 posted on 03/16/2012 10:36:25 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Former Proud Canadian

3 posted on 03/16/2012 10:37:11 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1151 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Love the fangs!


4 posted on 03/16/2012 10:40:10 AM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

I’d get some too if he were eating an easily-identified piece of bacon.

The crusader on the patch looks like he’s eating a bull scrotum.

Gotta love the idea, though.

It ranks right up there with my wish to see the Saudi flag alight.


5 posted on 03/16/2012 10:42:07 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great; until it happens to YOU.)
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To: KoRn
FINE!


6 posted on 03/16/2012 10:44:24 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1151 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Former Proud Canadian

If this is true God Bless our soldiers! The terms and symbols developed by our men in the field get right to the point and are UN-PC!


7 posted on 03/16/2012 10:44:39 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

I guess we can now refer to SecDef ‘Pancetta’ /s


8 posted on 03/16/2012 10:46:13 AM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: Former Proud Canadian

You wouldn’t be allowed to wear it on your uniform at all. It might be a hit, but I doubt it’s on any American uniforms.

Doesn’t really matter what’s on it, you can’t just add a patch to your combat uniform as far as I know.


9 posted on 03/16/2012 10:47:51 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Former Proud Canadian
The Crusaders, when out of pork, would (at the siege of Antioch at least) dine upon the flesh of the dead ‘Saracen’. It was reported that it was a little dry, but with a bit of mead - it did not go down ill. ;)
10 posted on 03/16/2012 10:51:40 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Sign me up.


11 posted on 03/16/2012 10:52:47 AM PDT by SueRae (Tale of 2 Towers - First, Isengaard (GOP-e), then, the Tower of Sauron on 11.06.2012)
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To: ltc8k6

It would make a great tattoo though!


12 posted on 03/16/2012 10:53:23 AM PDT by meatloaf (Support House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: allmendream

Is there an actual difference between the flesh of a pig and that of a Saracen? Apart from the dryness that is.


13 posted on 03/16/2012 10:54:28 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: pierrem15
I guess we can now refer to SecDef ‘Pancetta’ /s


14 posted on 03/16/2012 10:55:45 AM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
I think this is a great idea, but some how it is hard to believe..Military people are not allowed to put any other patch on uniforms except the issued ones..At least that was so when my husband was in uniform..
15 posted on 03/16/2012 10:56:02 AM PDT by PLD
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To: muir_redwoods
Less likely to catch a disease from eating the flesh of the pig I would imagine.

People have all the diseases that can infect another person. Eat someone who had Hepatitis - get Hepatitis, etc, etc, etc.

Sort of like mucking about in Egyptian tombs isn't such a good idea. Breathing in spores of microbes that have evolved over the last few thousand years to digest dessicated human flesh? What could go wrong?

16 posted on 03/16/2012 10:57:53 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream

“The Crusaders, when out of pork, would (at the siege of Antioch at least) dine upon the flesh of the dead ‘Saracen’. It was reported that it was a little dry, but with a bit of mead - it did not go down ill. ;) “

Citations, please.

Thanks.


17 posted on 03/16/2012 10:57:56 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: GladesGuru; allmendream

I remember reading about this.

http://www.crusades-encyclopedia.com/cannibalism.html

It’s not so much historically verified, but it’s at the least hyperbole on the actual goings on. Old wives’ tales, if you will. Remember, the winners write the history.


18 posted on 03/16/2012 11:03:03 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: GladesGuru
http://www.crusades-encyclopedia.com/cannibalism.html

I got it from several different sources - including Harold Lamb and his book on the Crusades. Runciman as well. They in turn got it from several sources - both Christian and Muslim.

From the article cited above.........

Radulph of Caen, an eyewitness to events at Ma’arra in 1098, wrote, “In Ma’arra our troops boiled pagan adults in cooking-pots; they impaled children on spits and devoured them grilled.” (1)

The chronicler Albert of Aix seemed to rank Muslims lower than dogs when he wrote, “Not only did our troops not shrink from eating dead Turks and Saracens; they also ate dogs!”

Guibert of Nogent, in his work Historia Hierosolymitana, provides more details on the incident of cannibalism at Ma’arra. There he notes that whenever the Tafurs who took part in the expedition discovered “scraps of flesh from the pagan's bodies” cannibalism was practiced with little discretion. According to Guibert, the Tafurs were well aware that the Muslims feared them because of cannibalism. For that reason, on at least one occasion, the Tafurs publicly “roasted the bruised body of a Turk over a fire as if it were meat for eating, in full view of the Turkish forces.” Guibert notes that the Franks also practiced cannibalism, but they did so “in secret and as rarely as possible.”

19 posted on 03/16/2012 11:03:44 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
http://thegurglingcod.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c387d53ef014e8b341532970d-800wi

Oh, How I love it! (and I don't even pork!)

20 posted on 03/16/2012 11:04:08 AM PDT by KC_Lion (I will NEVER vote for Romney, the GOP will go the way of the Whigs if they nominate him)
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To: ltc8k6

Did you click through to the article?


21 posted on 03/16/2012 11:04:32 AM PDT by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: rarestia
I would say that several independent sources make it about as well historically verified as can be expected.

The winner? The winner of the First Crusade was the Crusaders - and they wrote about cannibalism during the siege of Antioch.

The winner of the entire Crusades was the Muslims (a couple hundred years later) and they TOO wrote about cannibalism during the siege of Antioch.

When both sides of a conflict agree on a point - it is pretty well historically verified.

22 posted on 03/16/2012 11:06:57 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: JLS

Sure. There’s no way any American soldier is allowed to wear such a patch on the uniform.

I love the patch, but I would not have worn it on my uniform, nor would any of my superiors have tolerated it being on my uniform.

They would not have tolerated any unauthorized patch, regardless.

There’s also the way we wear patches now and how they attach to the uniform. IIRC, you can’t just add a patch these days. They are velcro now, right?

I do note that the German soldier appears to have it on a radio.


23 posted on 03/16/2012 11:22:04 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Cool patch. For some reason it reminds me of a woman I met that told me she gets sick eating pork but loved carnitas burritos. Teaching her to read fine print and a word in Spanish was scary.


24 posted on 03/16/2012 11:24:26 AM PDT by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, Romans 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: Migraine

The interpitation of “eating a bull scrotum” should give an equal scarey message to the goat daters as well.


25 posted on 03/16/2012 11:28:24 AM PDT by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: ltc8k6

I agree. The photo could be shopped or the guy could have put on the patch for a second for a photo op. I also bet a few are on uniforms of small units away from main bases.


26 posted on 03/16/2012 11:29:38 AM PDT by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

The article doesn’t say how many of these things are being sold over there.

I would agree that it’s very unlikely that any troops would, or could, wear these on their uniforms. But they might like them enough to have a few to pass around or keep among their personal items. Or they might have one in a pocket and flash it around. At this stage of the war under Obama and Panetta, I think the NCOs would not be inclined to object, as long as they weren’t actually on their shoulders.


27 posted on 03/16/2012 11:30:32 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ltc8k6

Know when I served over 50 years ago, all patches had to be standard issue, anything else as to even size or coloration of regulation patches were verboten.


28 posted on 03/16/2012 11:50:08 AM PDT by Sea Parrot (One, thinks he was great prez)
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To: ltc8k6

I love the patch, but I would not have worn it on my uniform, nor would any of my superiors have tolerated it being on my uniform.

They would not have tolerated any unauthorized patch, regardless.


But what’s really funny is that this same superiors won’t allow nighttime raids, allows afghans to be armed around our troops, has such messed up ROE that air and artillery support aren’t timely and let’s f#ggots kiss each other in front of your kids when you get back from deployment.


29 posted on 03/16/2012 12:06:11 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: ltc8k6
There’s also the way we wear patches now and how they attach to the uniform. IIRC, you can’t just add a patch these days. They are velcro now, right?

Plate carriers, gear pouches, and other nylon gear are covered with velcro to attach patches. I've seen about a billion pics of guys in theater with all kinds of morale patches on their gear. Whether they were breaking some regulation or not, I wouldn't know.

30 posted on 03/16/2012 12:29:30 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: allmendream
Sort of like mucking about in Egyptian tombs isn't such a good idea. Breathing in spores of microbes that have evolved over the last few thousand years to digest dessicated human flesh? What could go wrong?


31 posted on 03/16/2012 12:38:10 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Trailerpark Badass

They don’t use standard Velcro though, I think. IIRC, it does not make the loud ripping sound when you pull it apart.

Besides, I agree with the other poster, if this were an American thing, the Crusader would be eating a readily identifiable slice of bacon, not what appears to be a fish. :-)


32 posted on 03/16/2012 12:48:11 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6
Doesn’t really matter what’s on it, you can’t just add a patch to your combat uniform as far as I know.

Looks to me like everything is Velcro anyway, so easy swap, just sayin.

33 posted on 03/16/2012 1:05:02 PM PDT by itsahoot (Tag lines are a waste of bandwidth, as are my comments.)
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To: GraceG
I was thinking more like.....

Some have speculated that deadly fungus could have grown in the enclosed tombs and been released when they were open to the air. Arthur Conan Doyle favored this idea, and speculated that the mold had been placed deliberately to punish grave robbers.

A newspaper report printed following Carnarvon’s death is also believed to have been responsible for the wording of the curse most frequently associated with Tutankhamun – “Death shall come on swift wings to him who disturbs the peace of the King” – a phrase which does not actually appear among the hieroglyphs in KV62, even though it was said to appear in several different places.

While there is no evidence that such pathogens killed Lord Carnarvon, there is no doubt that dangerous materials can accumulate in old tombs. Recent studies of newly opened ancient Egyptian tombs that had not been exposed to modern contaminants found pathogenic bacteria of the Staphylococcus and Pseudomonas genera, and the moulds Aspergillus niger and Aspergillus flavus. Additionally, newly opened tombs often become roosts for bats, and bat guano may harbour histoplasmosis. However, at the concentrations typically found, these pathogens are generally only dangerous to persons with weakened immune systems.

Air samples taken from inside an unopened sarcophagus through a drilled hole showed high levels of ammonia, formaldehyde and hydrogen sulfide; these gases are all toxic, but are easily detected by their strong odours. Hydrogen sulfide is detectable at low concentrations (Up to 100PPM) beyond which it acts as a nerve agent on the olfactory senses. At 1000ppm it will kill with a single inhalation. [19]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_the_pharaohs

34 posted on 03/16/2012 1:55:28 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream

Bookmark


35 posted on 03/16/2012 4:51:30 PM PDT by Publius6961 (“It’s easy to make phony promises you can’t keep.” - Obama, Feb23, 2012)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

BUMP.

Wrap them in bacon.


36 posted on 03/16/2012 6:21:03 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: ltc8k6
The velcro I mean is put on those things for the express purpose of attaching patches, like nametags, blood type, NKDA. Like this:

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37 posted on 03/16/2012 7:27:53 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Trailerpark Badass

I never said it wasn’t physically possible...

It’s just not going to happen, imo.


38 posted on 03/16/2012 9:41:39 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: AntiKev

Ping to you. Be safe on your trip.


39 posted on 03/17/2012 6:25:23 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: AntiKev

Ping to you. Be safe on your trip.


40 posted on 03/17/2012 6:25:51 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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