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Santorum Rejects Reagan Space Legacy - Conservative stumbles in bid to hit Gingrich
The American Spectator ^ | February 7, 2012 | Jeffrey Lord

Posted on 02/07/2012 5:37:14 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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Santorum's ad and his Op-Ed, meant to mock Gingrich, in reality can only distinctly not help Santorum's struggling campaign. Gingrich will surely make the inevitable -- and correct -- connection between Santorum's ad and a serious attack on the Reagan space legacy -- and the dreams of America itself. "We'll continue our quest in space…. Nothing ends here; our hopes and our journeys continue," said President Reagan that tragic January night. Well, no they won't. Not if Rick Santorum and Mitt Romney have anything to say about it. "I promise," says Santorum.

Worse, whether Santorum's staff understands it or not the mocking Santorum ad and Op-Ed is an insult to the memory of seven extraordinarily brave Americans who 26 years ago this past January 28th gave their lives to continue the American journey into space. A journey, as Ronald Reagan well knew, into the future that America has always been, and will always be, about.

Former NASA executive Charles Miller, in a recent Wall Street Journal article, not only praised Gingrich's vision he outlined ways to return to space while well acknowledging the nation's current financial problems. In short, Mr. Miller, like Gingrich, embraced not only Reagan's vision but used another quality of Reagan's -- imagination -- to answer the unimaginative negativity that is now surprisingly advocated by Santorum and Romney.

....Stop, Senator. Stop.

If you really wish to sit at the Resolute desk, a literal, physical reminder of the human dream of exploration -- be resolute. Show some imagination. Vision. Don't play Herbert Hoover.

The City on a Shining Hill is the place to reach for the stars.

Not a place to be mocked by a radio commercial or a dopey Op-Ed that signals a crabbed, timid, fainthearted, decidedly un-conservative and un-American state of mind.

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This is an excellent piece by Jeffrey Lord.

I will add:

The Chinese are steadily moving their military operated space program forward to the Moon.

I am sure Romney's and Santorum's lack of understanding of the issues were music to their ears.

1 posted on 02/07/2012 5:37:21 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Having a strategic vision for the United States should always “trumps” vapid election campaign tactics.

Thx for the article!

Regards,

-Geoff

2 posted on 02/07/2012 5:44:46 AM PST by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Agreed.


3 posted on 02/07/2012 5:44:53 AM PST by svcw (Only difference between Romney & BH is one thinks he will be god & other one thinks he already is.)
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To: Ozymandias Ghost

Post #2: “trumps” = trump


4 posted on 02/07/2012 5:45:35 AM PST by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I am sure Romney's and Santorum's lack of understanding of the issues were music to their ears.

I keep thinking that Rick Perry should re-enter the race. He has the experience and common sense judgment qualities to make an excellent President of the United States. ...not so sure about Newt who has been a bit inconsistent. Never liked Romney, but am distressed with Santorum's lack of support for R&D.

5 posted on 02/07/2012 5:47:24 AM PST by olezip
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Excellent article! That “vision thing” is important, and we haven’t had a candidate who has had it since I can’t remember when...well, maybe since Reagan.


6 posted on 02/07/2012 5:49:09 AM PST by livius
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To: Ozymandias Ghost
“Having a strategic vision for the United States should always “trumps” vapid election campaign tactics.”

Talking intelligently during a campaign is normally not a useful thing on either side.

Talking to an Obama voter in 2008 “Why are you voting for Obama? “I'm sick of Bush” Oh; what did Bush do? “I don't know, but I'm sick of Bush and it's time for change” What policies of Obamas do you support? “I don't know, but he will change things” etc etc etc.....

7 posted on 02/07/2012 5:49:55 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Not a place to be mocked by a radio commercial or a dopey Op-Ed that signals a crabbed, timid, fainthearted, decidedly un-conservative and un-American state of mind.

Deliciously well done. Why is this man writing for Spectator?

8 posted on 02/07/2012 5:51:51 AM PST by Lady Lucky (Public education -- government cheese for the brain.)
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To: olezip

I think Perry should be more visible with Gingrich and this would probably help both of them. Perry’s problem was that he couldn’t articulate things very well, but his ideas were sound and I think he could make a major contribution.

One of the odd things about this article was that it criticized both Gingrich and Perry for their focusing on Bain Capital, which they both did because Romney had obscured his role in it and in fact had pretty much put it at arm’s length and was hoping that it, like all the rest of his history, would be ignored.

And then somehow Rush Limbaugh decided that Bain Capital was one of the great glories of capitalism. It’s not, it’s simply a firm that profits around the margins of productive economic activity. And while this may have its uses and function, a buy-out firm is not a productive business, which was what Romney was implying that he had been involved in. And in fact it is true that the activities of Bain and others like it in the 1990s led to the collapse or even plunder of pension funds that were such a feature of those years. I remember it well because I was working for a firm that was part of the insurance industry.

However, aside from that, I didn’t understand how either Perry or Gingrich could be painted as “anti-capitalist” just because they asked questions about the real nature of Romney’s business activities.


9 posted on 02/07/2012 5:59:11 AM PST by livius
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Most of the technology we enjoy and take for granted has been developed largely as a result of man’s quest to reach into space. This cross-over economic expansion has fueled millions of jobs throughout the world. McRomney and Santorum have no vision but to manage our decline. We need leaders with vision and guts = Newt.


10 posted on 02/07/2012 6:01:39 AM PST by vortigern
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If a country $15 trillion in debt can’t reach for the stars, then who can?


11 posted on 02/07/2012 6:02:55 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Let’s see: China has an operational weapon for taking out a satellite (”weaponization of space”) and we are going to invest so little into space technologies that we are not going put a base on the moon?

Does Santarum think the Chinese are going to make the same excuses he’s making?


12 posted on 02/07/2012 6:03:17 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Bump!


13 posted on 02/07/2012 6:03:58 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Santorum, a man of SMALL Ideas.


14 posted on 02/07/2012 6:04:55 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Neither RMoney nor Santorum have the forward thinking ability of Gingrich.


15 posted on 02/07/2012 6:09:49 AM PST by lahargis (Every day is independence day)
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To: livius

Agree. I would love to see a Gingrich/Perry ticket.

I’ve stopped listening to Rush, Sean and Beck because of this whole issue. I was disgusted in 2008 when conservative talk show hosts refused to have the balls to back a candidate until it was too late - and here we go again. To hear Rush explain it, he’s afraid if he comes out early behind someone, and they don’t make it - it makes him look inconsequential. How cowardly is that? His arms must be so tired from carrying all of that water for the RNC.


16 posted on 02/07/2012 6:09:56 AM PST by alicewonders (Thank you Rick Perry!)
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To: alicewonders

Rush obviously knows what’s best for Rush. I got his drift when I was still in my teens. No need to listen since, no surprises there. A few disappointments along the way, but no surprises.


17 posted on 02/07/2012 6:16:10 AM PST by Lady Lucky (Public education -- government cheese for the brain.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Can’t they find a better thing to criticize, of all the things they choose, this is the absolute worst. They’re criticizing him for a visionary proposal. Maybe they should be replaying his couch-warming session with Pelosi instead if they wanted people to question his judgement.


18 posted on 02/07/2012 6:16:44 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Cincinatus’ Wife, Jeffrey Lord, Ronald Reagan, Charles Miller and Newt Gingrich- Thank you all.

Rick Santorum, Mitt Romney, and Barak Obama- Go to hell.


19 posted on 02/07/2012 6:18:02 AM PST by matthew fuller (Obama has definitely earned a second term- 99 years in Leavenworth USP.)
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To: Wolfie; Cincinatus' Wife

Cute line, so if that was your intent you succeeded...congrats.

This is a national security issue as well as a humankind exploration issue.

I suggest to you that we must do something about the debt. Stop throwing money down rat holes, such as with Solyndra and other wasteful scandals. Reform entitlements, etc.

Grow the economy, especially through domestic energy production and good paying jobs.

All that is a given.

Then, spend some of the real tax revenues on Space.

The point of this article is that Santorum ridicules REAGAN on Space, while his target was Newt.


20 posted on 02/07/2012 6:18:26 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: US Navy Vet
Santorum is a classic "stick in the mud"...his sweaters vests give him away.

That said, there's a place for "sticks in the mud."

The legislature.

21 posted on 02/07/2012 6:19:49 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Go Newt!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

An excellent piece but I take exception to his portrayal of Perry and Gingrich attacks on Romney/Bain as “anti-capitalism.”

If they’d questioned Obama’s attendance to his wacky pastor Wright, would that be anti-religion?


22 posted on 02/07/2012 6:24:24 AM PST by Lady Lucky (Public education -- government cheese for the brain.)
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To: Brett66

I take your point, but since Newt has admitted his past appearance with Pelosi was a stupid thing to do, Santorum might think it would be more productive to go after him on something he proposes and defends right now.


23 posted on 02/07/2012 6:24:34 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I sometimes wonder if Santorum is on Romney’s payroll. Seriously, WHY would he attack Newt for this when Romney’s closet is so full of progressive skeletons. Not to mention the fact that Rick hasn’t dropped out, despite a lack of funds & floundering campaign. What’s up with him??


24 posted on 02/07/2012 6:26:43 AM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: vortigern
Absolutely! Every single facet of people's lives is touched by some product derived from technology invented solely because of the quest to reach the Moon.

That type of technology cannot be developed out of normal R & D programs, because it was all purpose driven Only extraordinary demands require extraordinary technology.

The payback in having a new "High Frontiers" program would be immeasurable. The cost would be a pittance compared to what America would reap in benefits, education, science, technology would all benefit tremendously--as would the America spirit.
25 posted on 02/07/2012 6:31:29 AM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: Lady Lucky

Your reasoning is impeccable.

Mark Levin and Jeffrey Lord are with us on some things, but they fell for the anti-Captitalism phony issue.

Levin has done a fabulous job going after Romney, and Ann Coulter.

Too bad he supports Santorum.

Lord supports Gingrich.


26 posted on 02/07/2012 6:31:38 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I have personally spoken to both Santorum and Romney, to urge them to have an effective space policy, pointing out the numerous examples of private corporations that seek to monetize space. They are lacking vision in this area.

Gingrich has the vision for private expansion in space.


27 posted on 02/07/2012 6:32:14 AM PST by mission9
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Why is Santorum continuing to attack Newt when the record of the guy in 1st place is such a target rich environment?

Can't he read election results?

28 posted on 02/07/2012 6:37:26 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: txrangerette
Levin has done a fabulous job going after Romney, and Ann Coulter.

Too bad he supports Santorum.

Agreed. Santorum came on his show last night and I turned it off.

29 posted on 02/07/2012 6:38:28 AM PST by Abby4116
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Santorum spoke yesterday at the Colorado Energy Summit, immediately after Gingrich. It was a sharp contrast, Gingrich a master of the facts, his delivery clear and precise, while Rick often was halting, searching with difficulty for the next word, trying valiantly to maintain his train of thought. When it comes to communication, these two are in different leagues.

They each had an hour, which Gingrich filled with example after example of why our energy policy is wrong. Rick conked out after 35 minutes, most of which had nothing to do with energy policy. I’m sure Rick is tired, it’s a grueling schedule these guys are on, but it’s grueling
for everyone, and it was Newt that was struggling with a cold.


30 posted on 02/07/2012 6:39:40 AM PST by cookcounty (Newt 2012: ---> Because he got it DONE.)
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To: N. Theknow
Why is Santorum continuing to attack Newt when the record of the guy in 1st place is such a target rich environment?

He has been attacking Newt all along.

31 posted on 02/07/2012 6:40:50 AM PST by Abby4116
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To: txrangerette; Wolfie; Cincinatus' Wife
Not just a "cute line," but an absurd comment. Even a fully funded by the federal government space program--the moon, mars, and all that implies would be a pittance in our budgeting.

That was always one of the big lies of the anti-space people. NASA was never a very expensive organization as government goes. Not only that but the payoff--the ROI--in technology was huge.

The space program spawned hundreds of billions of new industries and commerce. The total cost of the program compared to the money generated in our economy was laughably small.

There's not an single aspect of our lives that isn't touched daily by some product that is a spin-off from that decade of technology . . . and that technology could only be invented by people attempting to solve the challenges involved in space exploration.

Complaining about the cost is simply ludicrous and shows just how narrow-minded and short-sighted the Luddites in our society--like Santorum and Mitt--are.
32 posted on 02/07/2012 6:42:42 AM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: livius
I'd like to see ALL of those who've endorsed Newt be more visible on the campaign trail.

Perry and Newt were both right for calling Milt out on his Bain Cap doings. Their criticism wasn't against capitalism, but somehow became just that. Maybe due to the Clear Channel connection? Not articulated correctly? Or a combination of both?

33 posted on 02/07/2012 6:49:52 AM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Not a deal breaker. He can come around on this. Santorum is my first choice still.


34 posted on 02/07/2012 6:52:48 AM PST by frogjerk (OBAMA NOV 2012 = HORSEMEAT)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I am sure Romney's and Santorum's lack of understanding of the issues were music to their ears.

Oh Santorum understands the importance of a space program just fine. What he is doing is trying to portray Newt as some kind of "Speaker Moonbeam" with his head in the clouds and a history of wacky and weird ideas. I doubt it will work, but Santorum's campaign people have always been pretty stupid.

35 posted on 02/07/2012 6:53:02 AM PST by montag813
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To: HereInTheHeartland
“Talking intelligently during a campaign is normally not a useful thing on either side.”

“Talking to an Obama voter in 2008...”
_______________

Per your first paragraph: I'm not quite that cynical ...at least not today. (smile)

Per your second paragraph: Expecting an intelligent conversation w/an Obama voter is DEFINITELY an exercise in futility. (I am THAT cynical!)

36 posted on 02/07/2012 6:53:49 AM PST by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: surroundedbyblue
I've wondered about this, too. Santorum has numerous ads running on conservative stations. Those ads cost big $$. How is someone who polls consistently low able to fund these ads AND stay in the race?

One of the recent ads takes a slight swipe at Romeny, but I think its a decoy :)

37 posted on 02/07/2012 7:03:11 AM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Very good editorial. Thank you for posting Cincinatus’ Wife!


38 posted on 02/07/2012 7:09:53 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (NEWT GINGRICH 2012)
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To: olezip
I keep thinking that Rick Perry should re-enter the race.

The Friends reported that Perry mentioned just that at last night's Reagan dinner...I didn't catch the whole story if he meant this election or in the future. Anyone?
39 posted on 02/07/2012 7:13:42 AM PST by Miss Didi ("After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Ozymandias Ghost
“Per your first paragraph: I'm not quite that cynical ...at least not today. (smile)”

I hope you are right. But I think about how much intelligent discussion has gone on during the debates? vs how much of the time is spent on one line shallow statements?

40 posted on 02/07/2012 7:14:22 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; Impy; ...
Except Newt is on TV claiming that he will get the ‘private sector’ to go to the moon and build a manned space colony without him spending any federal $$$. I know Reagan never promised anything like that, that is having your cake and eating it too election campaign Santa stuff.
And the US can't even send a man into orbit anymore.

I especially like the part where he says that anyone questioning these unrealistic/fantasy promises must be part of the ‘establishment’ . Well here goes anyway:

What are we talking about? $100B ? $500B? $1T ? Newt probably isn't aware of this given his work history but THE PRIVATE SECTOR WORKS ON MAKING A PROFIT! I know sometimes Newt likes to demonize profits, only occasionally when convenient, but that is how it works.

My Moon colony joke goes : Newt will open up a senior citizen center on the moon so the government can save medicare money on walkers and wheelchairs, due to the lower gravity there. Call it Moon dreams plus medicare reform all in one.

41 posted on 02/07/2012 7:17:10 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: Jane Long

Perhaps it wasn’t articulated correctly, although I think that one of the reasons the Bain Capital stuff backfired was because they had underestimated Romney’s attack capabilities.

There is no way that criticizing Romney for his half-truths regarding his experience and the company he worked for could be interpreted as anti-capitalist by any rational human being, unless that meme was planted right away. I think neither Perry nor Gingrich realized at that time that they were dealing with somebody who is obviously formed in the Alinsky playbook and knows how to play fast and loose with the truth and knows that the best defense is a good offense.


42 posted on 02/07/2012 7:21:23 AM PST by livius
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Without Vision, The people perish”

An LTOS paraphrase from the Good Book.


43 posted on 02/07/2012 7:22:33 AM PST by left that other site
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To: Lady Lucky
My fear is right after Newt is smeared out of the race, Obama will bring up the facts about Bain raiding retirement funds and the gubmint having to bail them out. There is nothing wrong with corporate raiding, but retirement funds belong to the workers. The problem arises when the company is bought, the cash belongs to the buyer. If you have a company funded retirement, you are now broke. The government formed the bail out unit just for this reason.

This will suddenly make Newt look like a genius, of course, after it's too late. Why can't someone ask right now how you buy a business for $30 million and take $180 million out? It's the cash in the retirement fund. A business could go to a bank and put the retirement funds up for collateral and get a loan the same as selling to Bain. It's just kinda sleazy, most people will think when it comes out. It's not "Capitalism". I don't see the difference in that and loaning money to Solyndra.

The company puts up the retirement money, but it still belongs to the company. If they go bankrupt, the money is gone, so the gubmint makes it up for the workers.

44 posted on 02/07/2012 7:27:18 AM PST by chuckles
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To: sickoflibs
My Moon colony joke goes : Newt will open up a senior citizen center on the moon so the government can save medicare money on walkers and wheelchairs, due to the lower gravity there. Call it Moon dreams plus medicare reform all in one.

I will volunteer for Newt's moon colony. We can float around and even eat kosher food. LOL

45 posted on 02/07/2012 7:31:42 AM PST by dforest
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To: chuckles

As I’ve mentioned before, Romney will be very lucky if he emerges from a national race without criminal charges hanging over him. Obama has no scruples whatsoever, and Obama is in charge of the US govt. Obama proposes and disposes in godlike fashion.

Romney’s vast business “experience” is indeed a target-rich environment.

As are his five sons.

I believe there is a considerable chance that if Romney is nominated, he won’t even make it to November. His candidacy is already blighted in the bud.


46 posted on 02/07/2012 7:34:38 AM PST by Lady Lucky (Public education -- government cheese for the brain.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

There is probably a greater chance we will have a moon station in the next 10 years than Santorum will be our next President.


47 posted on 02/07/2012 7:35:52 AM PST by Leep (It's gonna be a Newt day!)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
I take your point; however, there have been some intelligent discussions and much of the problem, as far as important policy issues being discussed, can be attributed to the various Left-wing moderators; who deliberately avoid important issues that might be used to contrast the current administration unfavorably. I can't blame it on the candidates when the moderators waste time w/ “fluff” questions; like, “Which of the candidates’ wives would make the best first lady?”

It's also impossible to conduct in depth discussions of important policy issues in a debate format that has strict time limits. If we want more in depth information we have to go looking for it ourselves. There have been several good links to speeches by Newt on FR threads.

Take care,

-Geoff

48 posted on 02/07/2012 7:36:43 AM PST by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: Abby4116

If you listen to his backers, it’s part of his master plan to beat Romney-bama by 55 states.

Don’t bother with details on how.


49 posted on 02/07/2012 7:41:09 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

As broke as this nation is, is space really something that we can afford to waste time debating anyway?


50 posted on 02/07/2012 7:44:55 AM PST by Grunthor (Mitt Romney and anyone supporting him can go fornicate themselves with a cactus)
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