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Re: Has Gingrich Changed? et al
NRO ^ | 12/6/11 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 12/08/2011 1:44:30 PM PST by dervish

Edited on 12/08/2011 3:46:13 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: marty60; Lazlo in PA
“I just think we can do better. Call me a dreamer.”

I’ll join you in that Dream.

Why turn a dream into a nightmare?

21 posted on 12/08/2011 2:30:32 PM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke The Terrorist Savages)
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To: Cicero

Newt is a great thinker, he would do well as a college professor or in a think tank, but in the oval office you can’t easily retract mistakes. You don’t get re-do’s.

Newt is a BIG Government RINO Republican; Miles ahead of Obama but not what we need right now.

I think the left would love to have him as the nominee and then they could simply dig up all the headlines from the 90’s and use them against him and a volia, “O” wins. Just the name of Newt Gingrich evokes fear and hate among the left. The Mainstream Media is on the left, they will crucify Newt.


22 posted on 12/08/2011 2:35:10 PM PST by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: dervish

Myth and Newt are a gift...

They are making the RINOS come out from under their rocks..
And the truely confused republicans into rolling their eyes.. and drooling..

I see it a clarifying of the republican party..
Also true.. I am not very smart....... I am a republican..

Michele Bachmann is the ONLY conservative..
AND.. most republicans don’t WANT THAT...

Illegal aliens are either ILLEGAL or they aren’t..
Easy fix... MAKE THEM LEGAL... (amnesty)


23 posted on 12/08/2011 2:39:31 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: StraightDave
I’ll give Newt a 4 year shot at it. He knows his way around the yard and is not afraid to bite. He knows he has only one shot left to go down in history as the President who saved America from the Marxists/Socialists/Communists. Its Newt’s time.

Newt will be his own worst enemy. Newt supports the biggest world-wide Marxist endeavor -- the fraud of AGW.

I will not have a problem voting for Newt. However, I hold no illusion that anything significant will be done to turn our Republic towards Liberty.

We may get a conservative SC Justice from Newt. Maybe a four year break to allow a real Conservative to push to the front.

I have no doubt that the Clinton's still have Newt's FBI file. D.C. is a cesspool of evil parasites.

24 posted on 12/08/2011 2:43:37 PM PST by sand88
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To: hosepipe
Michele Bachmann is the ONLY conservative..

Maybe so, but unfortunately she can only muster single digits among Republicans, let alone a majority of the country as a whole. She would make a fine Speaker though, IMHO.

25 posted on 12/08/2011 2:44:50 PM PST by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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To: Hugin

[ Maybe so, but unfortunately she can only muster single digits among Republicans, let alone a majority of the country as a whole. She would make a fine Speaker though, IMHO. ]

Like I just said..
Republicans generally are not conservatives.. even freepers..
Some maybe many are leaning toward or are socialists..

Social Security is literally pure socialism.. its a Ponzi scheme..
AND worse most republicans LOVE IT...

A few are indeed for the Chilean model.. (privatizing it)..
Ron Paul wants return to the Constitution and what he is called is; “crazy”..
Not Draconian or just over doing “IT”, he is called crazy..

Probably because most republicans don’t want the Constitution re-instated.. exactly..
BUT a socialist version of it..


26 posted on 12/08/2011 3:09:15 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: dervish

I just heard on Fox - the round table - that Newt Gingrich is for Obama’s Health Care Program — the Government Health Care Program.

I have not heard this before. Is this true??!!


27 posted on 12/08/2011 4:02:45 PM PST by malia
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To: malia

Well Newts going to repeal it on day one.

So the lying bastards at fox are just that: lying bastards.


28 posted on 12/08/2011 4:06:46 PM PST by o2bfree
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To: dervish
Gee, I wonder how this will play out if Newt is the nominee?

First, republicans will call all consevatives names if they say they don't support Newt.

Then, the same republicans who have no problem insulting conservates, will remain mute when it comes to real life and their dem friends/relatives.

Then, Newt will lose. Not because conservatives didn't vote for him, but because he has too many issues that will be used against him. How does one say support my guy Newt after you have disagreed with them on global warming. Or how about vote for my guy Newt, we need to end the corruption in DC, so they bring up the Frannie/Freddie money he received.

Republicans ALWAYS miss the ground game. Always. They really don't understand how important it is to get people out there and get up the chatter that will counter the lies of the MSM.

Don't you guys remember in the 2008 election how quite political talk was? I sure do. Nobody bantered about the candidates.

The republicans I know IRL will talk politics with you, but if there is a known Dem, they will not even speak up with something insulting is said. conservatives though, they will speak out. without them doing this, we will lose. We always do. I believe we really need somebody with strong creds to take on the corruption that is Washington. I really think that would be a game changer, and could also do damage to the MSM that overlooked all the corruption. With a straight face, I don't know if that can be done with Newt.

Oh, and after the election and Obama wins again, guess who the republicans will blame.............?

I'm done with the republican game playing.

29 posted on 12/08/2011 4:43:26 PM PST by magglepuss (Don't tread on me)
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To: Lazlo in PA

It makes not one bit of sense.

It was just two short years ago he BETRAYED Tea Partiers.

He just may destroy the Tea Party in the process.

FR support is truly a WTF moment.


30 posted on 12/08/2011 4:50:49 PM PST by maggief
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To: Hugin; nathanbedford

To my way of thinking, NB is worth 20 of the top paid pundits in America today. Maybe 30.

In my opinion, the Punditocracy, left and right, has deep, deep mental problems.


31 posted on 12/08/2011 5:29:22 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim I have a slightly different take.

We are here because of the progressives...if we keep voting for progressives we will continue on this same path.

To me the progressives = tories, it’s 1775 again what choice you going to make: Tories or Patriots?


32 posted on 12/08/2011 5:39:22 PM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: surfer

Well, I believe that we’re here at this particular point in this particular primary race, because our prime tea party conservative patriot candidates either:

a. failed to run

b. failed at the gate

c. shot off like a rocket, flamed out, crashed and burned

d. came in near the top with high expectations, shot self in foot, became tongue tied, dropped like a rock and can’t recover

e. all others aren’t getting any serious attention

It’s beginning to look a lot like Newt vs Romney in this race.

I’m not going for Romney! Ever!

Who you gonna call?


33 posted on 12/08/2011 7:13:01 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Lazlo in PA

>> The amount of FReepers that give Newt a full pass for his ...

It’s about potential, not absolution.


34 posted on 12/08/2011 7:20:56 PM PST by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jets.)
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To: nathanbedford; samtheman

Great Post!

...whatever the cost may be,
we shall fight on the beaches,
we shall fight on the landing grounds,
we shall fight in the fields and in the streets,
we shall fight in the hills;
we shall never surrender!!


35 posted on 12/08/2011 7:28:31 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: nickcarraway

You misstate what he said, which granted was typical politicians’ chicanery about their terrible sacrifices in order to serve. Nevertheless, Romney is indeed the greater weirdo.


36 posted on 12/08/2011 7:28:57 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: malia

My understanding is that years ago Heritage came out supporting the idea of an individual mandate and Newt supported it. In one of the debates when Newt criticized Romney for Romneycare, Romney retorted — I got the idea from you and Heritage. Newt began to deny until Romney specifically reminded Newt of his support for the mandate.

At this point, both have stated unequivocally they will work for the repeal of Obamacare.


37 posted on 12/08/2011 9:01:01 PM PST by dervish (female candidates: the last frontier)
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To: Psalm 144
Well what did he say? Tell me how you can spin it as a positive? Adultery is good? It wasn't his fault? I lived through 8 years of Bill Clinton, I don't feel like living through any more with his idiotic little brother.

By the way, has anybody considered this reprobate spent the last 40 years in adultery. You think all the sudden he stopped? Not likely. If he were the candidate, how is it going to be when all his current shenanigans get exposed. Probably in very late October. Maybe this should be thoroughly investigated NOW?

38 posted on 12/08/2011 9:57:25 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Show me where he said his affair was patriotic. You are the one making that assertion. Show me the quote, not your paraphrase.


39 posted on 12/08/2011 10:17:51 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Psalm 144
Nevertheless, Romney is indeed the greater weirdo.

I don't agree with his policies, but he seems like a much more decent man than Romney. Romney is still with his family, and seems to have some morality. Gingrich has abandoned 2 families, and can anybody argue that he has any shred of morality? If he had a "d" after his name, he'd be recognized as the scum he is. (I don't support either of them)

40 posted on 12/08/2011 10:21:41 PM PST by nickcarraway
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