Re: Has Gingrich Changed? et al

NRO ^ | 12/6/11 | Mark Steyn

[Jim Robinson]

"What I think we should all be doing right now, is FR, Tea Party Express, Tea Party, etc...leadership should be conferencing calling and pushing for a much stronger candidate with actual principles and integrity. Telling the GOP clearly they will not have our support if they think they can pull another McCain BS move on us."

And my answer to that is Sara Palin. I'm with her in a heartbeat if she'd run as a draftee or even on a TEA Party ticket. Rebellion is rebellion, y'know. George Washington would approve such a move.

Thomas Jefferson too:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Newt Gingrich is a firm believer and advocate of the above.

But right now as of this moment and as a Republican in the Republican primary, my immediate goal is to defeat progressive Romney with a candidate who can go on to defeat Obama and then on to successfully lead the TEA Party Rebellion. Newt was with Reagan during the Reagan Revolution and successfully followed that with the Republican Revolution. Of our current field, Newt is historically the most knowledgable, the most experienced, most able to negotiate the congressional minefields, and the most winningest battle tested veteran of conservative political upheavals with the scars and the scalps under his belt to prove it. And like other warhorses before him, he was sent out to pasture after winning the big battles. Unfortunately, the war continued without him and we've been on the losing end.

Unlike Newt, Romney is no rebel. No tea partier. Not even a conservative. If president, he would do nothing to impede the headlong plunge into socialism. He's the establishment's inside man. Impede? Hell, he'd lead the charge. RomneyCare begat ObamaCare!

[surfer]

I don’t think I could ever vote for Romney under any circumstance.

I am with you on Palin. I think she would kick some serious butt in DC...just like she did in Alaska. There are a lot of people that deserve and belong in jail for the remainder of their lives.

In regard to Newt I really wish he thought like Jefferson especially when Jefferson left DC...

“I have the consolation of having added nothing to my private fortune during my public service, and of retiring with hands clean as they are empty.”

BTW that is one of the reason I really respect Bachmann - just on principle she will not trade stocks, etc while in office.

I just don’t see Newt really changing anything, he believes in the individual mandate, etc...You have no idea how I wish Newt stayed the course as the Newt we used to know.

Maybe we can convince John Bolton to run!!!

[Jim Robinson]

Romney is the establishment. Newt is the rebel (comparatively speaking) and is the strongest and most experience candidate in our current Republican field.

By the way, I know where you’re coming from with Washington. He would’ve picked up a musket long before this.

[surfer]

Gingrich cannot win against Obama. We are all being funneled into this stupid “McCain” choice AGAIN!

There is so much dirt on Gingrich that the DNC is going to skewer Gingrich with.

We need to support the real conservative candidates through the primary. Why is everyone so bent on choosing the lesser of two evils even before the primary has occurred?

Did you hear Gingrich actually admit he is a progressive on a radio interview?

[Hoodat]

Gingrich cannot win against Obama. We are all being funneled into this stupid “McCain” choice AGAIN!
There is so much dirt on Gingrich that the DNC is going to skewer Gingrich with.
We need to support the real conservative candidates through the primary. Why is everyone so bent on choosing the lesser of two evils even before the primary has occurred?

Worth repeating. There was a time when I thought that any GOP candidate could beat Obama. With McNewt, I now see that I was wrong. If a progressive RINO like Newt gets the GOP nomination, then we deserve four more years of Obama.

[surfer]

I kind of look at it this way...

Obama is the name-brand Progressive...

Gingrich is the knock-off brand Progressive...

People will vote for the name-brand progressive!!! We are so being set up!!!