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No Longer Indicating Recession
The Daily Reckoning ^ | 11-29-2011 | Addison Wiggin

Posted on 11/29/2011 2:41:45 PM PST by blam

No Longer Indicating Recession

By Addison Wiggin

11/29/11 Baltimore, Maryland – Alas, a little-known recession indicator has stopped flashing red — at least for now. The Philadelphia Fed’s State Coincident Index — crunching four employment indicators from all 50 states — clocked in at 76 in October.

Readings below 50 have predicted every recession of the last 30 years, with only one false alarm — last year, in the midst of QE2.

Or is that two now? The index sat below 50 from May through August, but recovered in September to 64 — and added 12 more points last month.

Hmmmn…

Well, the Fed continues to roll over all the Treasuries it bought during QE2, which some pundits label “QE 2.5.”

The monetary mandarins may be succeeding in postponing the inevitable. But we remain on guard for whenever they run out of paper clips and rubber bands to hold the whole thing together.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economy; philadelphiafed; recession

1 posted on 11/29/2011 2:41:53 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
BS
2 posted on 11/29/2011 2:47:17 PM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: blam

I find that hard to believe.

When we moved to this Washington State community in 1999, the local newspaper adds for jobs stretched for 7 full pages.

Today, for the first time, there were no adds at all. The local state-run employment office listed 8 jobs, 3 of which were logging related, two were insurance company sales jobs, and the rest were part-time seasonal jobs.

I know my local community must have an unemployement rate over 25%. Every job I apply for has literally hundreds of applications. Even my father’s barber said that men are buzz-cutting their own hair rather that pay for a haircut!


3 posted on 11/29/2011 2:55:15 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: blam
The Boom will end and then the Bust will begin.

Can't go on pumping in money forever.

4 posted on 11/29/2011 2:56:36 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: blam

If 9% and actually far more unemployment and underemployment, as well as the ongoing mortgage crisis doesn’t qualify this nation to be in a recession, then the word has no meaning.

I realize the weight of the qualification rests on quarters of growth or some such, but seriously folks, if this isn’t a recession, then don’t come pining to me when you think there is one.

I won’t be listening.


5 posted on 11/29/2011 2:57:17 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Romney, Newt, any chance whatsoever you might sometime pander to U.S. Citizens vs the illegals?)
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To: blam

I won’t believe it until someone proves to me the government hasn’t cooked the numbers. Also, I’d like to know which states (red or blue) improved.


6 posted on 11/29/2011 3:00:22 PM PST by DallasDeb (usafa06mom)
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To: DallasDeb
"I’d like to know which states (red or blue) improved. "

Okay here:

The Ultimate Tale Of The Economy's Collapse, Recovery, Slowdown And Then Recovery

For the most part, US economic indicators continue to look solid despite all the worries.

The Philly Fed State Coincident Index tracks employment, unemployment, manufacturing hours and wages. It is visualized with a map, where red shows declines and green shows gains.

In March 2009 the map was entirely red,meaning that most indicators were still ugly.

7 posted on 11/29/2011 3:18:34 PM PST by blam
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To: DoughtyOne
Recession is not defined by employment numbers. What this means is that the definition of recession has little relevance to the common man. To know what is going on, it is far better to look at figures like inflation or unemployment than whether the aggregate economy grew or shrank by some miniscule percentage.
8 posted on 11/29/2011 3:34:51 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

If I understood you accurately, we agree on this.

The term doesn’t touch on the plight of the average man, and I think that renders it useless to banter around as the media and politicians do.

If it doesn’t apply to us, don’t use it when you talk to us. We could care less.


9 posted on 11/29/2011 3:39:26 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Romney, Newt, any chance whatsoever you might sometime pander to U.S. Citizens vs the illegals?)
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To: blam

Recession over, depression on the way.


10 posted on 11/29/2011 4:12:15 PM PST by mulligan
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To: DallasDeb
http://www.shadowstats.com/imgs/sgs-emp.gif?hl=ad&t=1321044468

Unemployment is no where close to 10%. Figures don't lie, but liars figure. POLs and Commies LIE.

11 posted on 11/29/2011 4:55:49 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: DallasDeb

Is there anything the government says that I should believe anymore?

Today, the whitey house says that obastard’s trips are not political. Right.


12 posted on 11/29/2011 6:01:49 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: SatinDoll

Can’t be that bad, the Coincident Rating map for your state says things are really improving rapidly there.

Tongue planted in cheek.


13 posted on 11/29/2011 6:08:25 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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