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America's 'Oh [crap]!' Moment
US News ^ | 10/30/11 | Niall Ferguson

Posted on 11/04/2011 7:30:12 AM PDT by dervish

Edited on 11/04/2011 7:33:38 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Civilizations don

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: declineofthewest; economy; niallferguson; usexceptionalism
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1 posted on 11/04/2011 7:30:16 AM PDT by dervish
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Ya want to know exactally what date was the REAL start of our decline as a country, November 22, 1963, when that STUPID, LEFTIST, COMMUNIST BASTARD Lee Harvey Oswald(and/OR his band of co-Cospirators) Killed JFK and PUT that TEXAS, BASTARD LBJ in office. The GREAT SOCIETY started driving our country into the ground!


2 posted on 11/04/2011 7:35:13 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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3 posted on 11/04/2011 7:36:34 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: US Navy Vet

Actually, if I was pressed to pick a deciding moment date, that is the one I would go with also.


4 posted on 11/04/2011 7:36:36 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: dervish

What is this site that advertises Newsweak?

If you advertize Newsweak then you ain’t no friend o mine.


5 posted on 11/04/2011 7:36:56 AM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: cuban leaf; US Navy Vet

I’d blame the Beatles...
(and the banning of DDT)


6 posted on 11/04/2011 7:39:56 AM PDT by null and void (MSGT Dean Hopkins USMC (ret) WWII-Korea-Vietnam 11/9/1925-10/22/2011 My hero, my Dad)
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To: cuban leaf

You need to read Jonah Goldberg’s “Liberal Fascism”. It started long before that.


7 posted on 11/04/2011 7:40:34 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: dervish

Niall Ferguson bump for later.......


8 posted on 11/04/2011 7:42:01 AM PDT by indthkr
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To: US Navy Vet

That was the beginning.


9 posted on 11/04/2011 7:43:11 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: US Navy Vet

JFK issuing the executive order tha allowed federal employess to unionize and no longer be Civil Servants, that was the beginning of the decline.


10 posted on 11/04/2011 7:43:26 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: US Navy Vet

Sure OK you make a good case.

But do you contend that John was the only good Kennedy? Because the rest of his family have been lying thieving leftist scum. I just wonder if you really think John was dramatically different from the rest of them.


11 posted on 11/04/2011 7:45:18 AM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: dervish

Their title was less offensive than yours. At least they bleeped a letter.


12 posted on 11/04/2011 7:45:22 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

Nope THIS was the ONLY good Kennedy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosemary_Kennedy


13 posted on 11/04/2011 7:49:14 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: dervish

Without all this we would be living in portable housing and throwing spears at each other.


14 posted on 11/04/2011 7:49:52 AM PDT by oyez
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To: indthkr
Ya want to know exactally what date was the REAL start of our decline as a country, November 22, 1963, when that STUPID, LEFTIST, COMMUNIST BASTARD Lee Harvey Oswald(and/OR his band of co-Cospirators) Killed JFK and PUT that TEXAS, BASTARD LBJ in office. The GREAT SOCIETY started driving our country into the ground!

Nope.. The Great Society was an expansion of the New Deal. FDR is the real culprit, with a nod to the early 20th Century progressive who laid the foundation for the social engineering movement.

15 posted on 11/04/2011 7:50:28 AM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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To: US Navy Vet

Joe Kennedy, Jr. couldn’t have been that bad of a guy.


16 posted on 11/04/2011 7:51:54 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: US Navy Vet

Nah - the beginning of the end goes way back to the thirties and FDR’s campaign policy of appealing to his separate constituencies as groups instead of as Americans.


17 posted on 11/04/2011 7:53:43 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: dervish
More from the article.

What we need to do is to delete the viruses that have crept into our system: the anticompetitive quasi monopolies that blight everything from banking to public education; the politically correct pseudosciences and soft subjects that deflect good students away from hard science; the lobbyists who subvert the rule of law for the sake of the special interests they represent—to say nothing of our crazily dysfunctional system of health care, our overleveraged personal finances, and our newfound unemployment ethic.

18 posted on 11/04/2011 7:54:11 AM PDT by Track9 (Make War!!)
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Our culture, language and way of life was the underpinning of our society. When we failed to protect those we started our own demise.
19 posted on 11/04/2011 7:55:23 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: netmilsmom
It started long before that.

Genesis 3?

20 posted on 11/04/2011 7:56:36 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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