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Rick Perry's Flat Tax Soars While Herman Cain's 9-9-9 Plan Sinks With GOP Voters
Sunshine State News ^ | October 26, 2011 | Kevin Derby |

Posted on 10/26/2011 9:56:48 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

A Washington Post/ABC News poll released Wednesday morning found that Americans are divided on tax plans proposed by two of the leading contenders for the Republican presidential nomination, businessman Herman Cain and Texas Gov. Rick Perry. The poll found that a majority of Republican voters favor the flat tax but a majority oppose Cain’s plan.

The poll found only 36 percent of the total population surveyed favoring Cain’s “9-9-9 plan.” The plan, which has become one of the cornerstones of Cain’s campaign, would establish the federal income tax and the corporate tax rate at 9 percent while adding a national sales tax also set at 9 percent. A majority of those surveyed -- 56 percent -- have an unfavorable view of Cain’s plan.

Cain’s plan is upside down among Republicans, with 50 percent seeing it as unfavorable; 41 percent of the Republicans surveyed favor the plan. Since winning the Presidency 5 straw poll in Orlando last month, Cain has rocketed to the top of some national polls and is leading in some crucial early states, including Iowa and South Carolina.

The plan garners lower marks with voters outside the GOP. Thirty-five percent of Democrats favor the plan, while 61 percent see it as unfavorable. Cain’s plan registers similar marks from Independents, with 35 percent favoring it and 58 percent opposing it.

The flat tax -- backed by various presidential candidates over the years including publisher Steve Forbes in his bid for the Republican nominations in 1996 and 2000, and once and future California Gov. Jerry Brown in his bid for the Democratic nod in 1992 -- receives higher marks. Forbes announced earlier this week that he is backing Perry for the Republican nomination.

Forty-seven percent of those surveyed favor a flat tax, while 48 see it unfavorably. The idea does better with Republicans than other voters. A majority of Republican voters in the poll -- 56 percent -- back the idea, 41 percent of them view it unfavorably. Independents are less sold on the flat tax, with 46 percent favoring it and 48 percent seeing it as unfavorable. The idea is less popular among Democrats, with 40 percent favoring the flat tax and 56 percent opposing it.

The poll of 1,019 American adults was taken Oct. 19-23 and had a margin of error of +/- 3.5 percent.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: economy; flattax; formerdemocrateperry; georgia; hermancain; jobs; larazarick; openborders; perry2012; perryastroturfing; rickperry; romneyperry2012; texas
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Herman Cain offed his own plan when he revised it to exempt low income people from having to pay 9% income tax.

Every American at any income level needs to pay something. No exceptions!


21 posted on 10/26/2011 10:24:20 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: stuartcr

If it looked like in all liklihood it would pass the market would react, positively, before it was actually enacted and in play.


23 posted on 10/26/2011 10:25:14 AM PDT by jla (Who says Perry's a conservative? - Rush, Inhofe, Levin & Sowell do.)
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To: Longbow1969
On paper Perry is very good on most issues, but there is now a likability deficit that is plaguing him. First impressions are super important, and Perry has to hope people will give him a second look as we get closer to the actual primaries. He will have the money to run a lot of advertising, so that should help.

Personally I think he is the only candidate that can actually stop Romney, so I hope he really improves going forward.

I think Perry will be the nominee. People haven't really had a good look at the guy except through the prism of the so called debates. I'll admit he didn't come off looking great in those, but they aren't the end of the story...as many around here wish that they were. Perry's got money in the bank and that will translate into media buys. Let's see how the ads he's starting to roll out do. Let's see how the economic plan that he's just starting to articulate resonates with the voters once they get to hear what he's offering.

Perry's the guy that Buckley would support if he were still alive. He's the most conservative candidate who can win!

24 posted on 10/26/2011 10:25:29 AM PDT by pgkdan (("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
My favorite part of the Perry plan is where if you are a state government worker, you can opt out of Social Security.

But, if you are a private sector employee, supporting the government worker and his retirement, regardless of whether it is in Social Security or some other plan, you get to continue getting screwed by the Federal government confiscating 12% of your earnings to participate in a bankrupt, morally and fiscally program.

Well, sign me up!

25 posted on 10/26/2011 10:26:14 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (Things are so bad now, Kenyans are saying Obama was born in the USA.)
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To: olezip
I guess that I am missing something.

Yes, individual deductions.

A family of 4, even if renters, would pay less making $90,000 under Perry's plan. Even less if they pay a mortgage.

Also, many are uncomfortable adding a national sales tax while keeping the income tax.

26 posted on 10/26/2011 10:26:54 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: stuartcr
“Even with a republican congress, how long, realistically, would it take for either tax plan to get implemented and have an actual impact on the economy?”

No president can wave a magic wand and change the tax code. All tax laws must originate in the House of Representatives House Ways and Means Committee. The tax law then must pass both houses of congress and go to the president for signature. This is in the constitution. The president can request and sign legislation, but he cannot ram it through.

27 posted on 10/26/2011 10:27:59 AM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: stuartcr

“Even with a republican congress, how long, realistically, would it take for either tax plan to get implemented and have an actual impact on the economy?”

No president can wave a magic wand and change the tax code. All tax laws must originate in the House of Representatives House Ways and Means Commitee. The tax law then must pass both houses of congress and go to the president for signature. This is in the constitution. The president can request and sign legislation, but he cannot ram it through.


28 posted on 10/26/2011 10:28:42 AM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: federal__reserve
Here is the facts about 9-9-9 tax plan: learn the facts before commenting https://supporthermancain.com/999/999_plan

Here IS the FACTS? Here IS??? Learn the language before recommending what someone else should learn.

29 posted on 10/26/2011 10:28:55 AM PDT by pgkdan (("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...
RE :”A Washington Post/ABC News poll released Wednesday morning found that Americans are divided on tax plans proposed by two of the leading contenders for the Republican presidential nomination, businessman Herman Cain and Texas Gov. Rick Perry. The poll found that a majority of Republican voters favor the flat tax but a majority oppose Cain’s plan. The poll found only 36 percent of the total population surveyed favoring Cain’s “9-9-9 plan.” The plan, which has become one of the cornerstones of Cain’s campaign, would establish the federal income tax and the corporate tax rate at 9 percent while adding a national sales tax also set at 9 percent. A majority of those surveyed — 56 percent — have an unfavorable view of Cain’s plan.

Well of course. Perry's 'round' tax plan is the Santa Claus plan. Merry Christmas. Tax cuts for everyone, don't worry about spending. Compassionate conservatism. Even illegals get out of paying taxes.

How can it be flat when he leaves half of Americans (and illegals) out of paying it at all? Compassionate conservatism.

30 posted on 10/26/2011 10:29:01 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Cain :"My parents didn't raise me to beg the government for other peoples money")
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To: Longbow1969

No it isn’t Perry’s plan is awful.No one I know likes it or his position on illegal immigration


31 posted on 10/26/2011 10:29:24 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Thanks for posting the links.

Question for you - how many Senators and how many House members support his plan?

No matter what the polls say, the House and Senate will be the ones that decide what - if any - changes will be made to the tax structure.

I doubt ANY member of CONgress will give up the power they hold, that power being the ability to twist the tax code to reward or punush for their (congresscritters) benefit.

To think otherwise is to dream of rainbows and candy....


32 posted on 10/26/2011 10:30:09 AM PDT by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Herman Cain offed his own plan when he revised it to exempt low income people from having to pay 9% income tax.

You mean his new and improved 9-0-9 plan for the 'poor'? Talk about pandering!

33 posted on 10/26/2011 10:30:50 AM PDT by pgkdan (("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: Fred

“Primarily it is OPTIONAL!!!!”

It’s the Buffet tax.

If you don’t think you are paying enough, you can pay some more.


34 posted on 10/26/2011 10:31:33 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion (Heartless)
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To: All

“Perry’s Tax is Flat...But so is Campaign”

http://econus.blogspot.com/2011/10/perrys-tax-is-flat.html


35 posted on 10/26/2011 10:33:51 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: olezip
How can people welcome a 20% tax rate compared to 9%?

Is cain pushing the 9-0-0 plan or something now?

36 posted on 10/26/2011 10:36:16 AM PDT by GOPyouth ("We're buying shrimp, guys. Come on." - Dear Leader)
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To: jla

Thanx


37 posted on 10/26/2011 10:36:46 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: sickoflibs
You are so heartless!


38 posted on 10/26/2011 10:41:27 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Last night Bachmann was on Hannity claiming that Perry’s plan was her plan. Sure, Michelle, sure.

Today Ken Blackwell removed himself from Bachmann’s SuperPAC and endorsed Perry.


39 posted on 10/26/2011 10:43:31 AM PDT by LimberJim
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To: forgotten man

That’s what I thought


40 posted on 10/26/2011 10:46:20 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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