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Buchanan: GOP Risks Third Party Revolt with Romney Candidacy
Newsmax.com ^ | 19 Oct 2011 | Martin Gould and Ashley Martella

Posted on 10/20/2011 11:40:57 AM PDT by broken_arrow1

The GOP could face a revolt from within its tea party grassroots base if it nominates an establishment candidate without true conservative, anti-big government values, one of America’s leading conservative pundits tells Newsmax.TV in an exclusive interview.

Specifically, columnist and former Republican presidential candidate Pat Buchanan told Newsmax that the nomination of former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, the architect of a state insurance plan that many say inspired Obamacare, could prompt the tea party movement to form a third party.

“It’s a real possibility because the tea party folks and the Republican conservatives and social conservatives and others are very apprehensive of Mitt Romney and they don’t feel he is really one of us,” Buchanan told Newsmax.

“They’ve got reason for that feeling and that sentiment but if they do that, if, for example … they persuaded Ron Paul to run on a third party ticket, Barack Obama would be easily re-elected,” he added.

Buchanan would certainly know. A former aide to President Ronald Reagan, he was one of the first conservative commentators to hold a prominent job as a TV commentator and syndicated columnist in the mainstream media.

From 1966 through 1974, Buchanan was an assistant to Richard Nixon, and from 1985 to 1987, White House Director of Communications for Reagan.

Buchanan ran twice for the Republican nomination for president and then in 2000 ran for the White House on the Reform Party ticket. He said he can see a third party candidate emerging in 2012 if Mitt Romney gets the GOP nod.

Of the current Republican candidates he said, “Certainly Michele Bachmann is one of us. I think Rick Perry is. I think Herman Cain is. If you are talking about a more traditional conservative certainly I would put Santorum in there.

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To: Jim Robinson

The defense rests.


161 posted on 10/20/2011 3:30:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: ex-snook
Hey beg to differ Romney is not a RINO. He is probably a good Republican. He is CINO - a conservative in name only. [Conservative is the name Republicans claim at election time]. Regards,

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I think the GOP elites are painting him as a conservative, like they did with Chris Christie.

162 posted on 10/20/2011 3:41:17 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I feel your pain, and I can’t blame you for sitting it out if Romney is the nominee.

If Romney is the GOP's pick...we could lose this country of ours.

163 posted on 10/20/2011 3:44:19 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum)
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To: x
Romney is from the northeast, so I don't see regional pride as a motivating factor. I was in NJ when Mario Cuomo was being considered as a candidate way back when. My “regional pride” would not let me wish him on anyone.

Christie and Romney are not that far apart in their big government ideology. The media would have focused on Christie versus Romney just as it did with Perry versus Romney. It didn't hurt Romney nearly as much as the other candidates. I stand by “manipulate” because the media presentation would have been that these are the only two “real” candidates, so pick one or the other. Some choice.

I don't disagree that Christie had appeal, but certainly not to this conservative. Anyone can get in the race. I have no problem with that until the media does its mischief. Pardon my cynicism, but the media has conditioned me that way.

164 posted on 10/20/2011 3:44:41 PM PDT by trubolotta
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To: broken_arrow1

I don’t like Pat Buchanan, he is allied with the wacko wing of the truthers, liberaltarians and socialists.


165 posted on 10/20/2011 3:50:29 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The problem is simple.

IF Romney is the candidate....the GOP will lose.

Plain and simple.

166 posted on 10/20/2011 3:50:51 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum)
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To: Jim Robinson

JimRob,

Can I just say: YOU TOTALLY ROCK MY WORLD! :-)

Many thanks for using your magic zot powers to make this a Romneybot-free zone! I’m so over Romney being shoved down my throat by the media, trolls and other misguided souls.


167 posted on 10/20/2011 3:50:58 PM PDT by LadyJMayo
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To: Fred

Pat is now allied with people like Lew Rockwell, Anti-war.com, far leftists, anarchists and the like.


168 posted on 10/20/2011 3:54:16 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: tirednvirginia; Jim Robinson
How about if Cain or Rubio is on the ticket with Romney?

NO!! We are not falling for the Dole-Kemp, McCain-Palin game where they dangle a fake carrot in front of conservatives. If Romney or another RINO is on the ticket, the answer should be NO WAY.

169 posted on 10/20/2011 3:57:44 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: ex-snook
Romney = DIABLO

Democrat
In
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But
Label
Only

170 posted on 10/20/2011 4:02:10 PM PDT by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: tirednvirginia

McCain would not have even been a second place candidate without picking someone as conservative as Sarah Palin as VP. Then he went out and talking up Obama “He’s a good guy” and bashing profits like a leftist.

It’s like the old RINO didn’t want to win.


171 posted on 10/20/2011 4:03:47 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: tcrlaf

I don’t think Obama’s defeat is inevitable at this point. It’s a long way to next November, and he is devious, well-funded, and willing to do nearly anything to get what he wants. Right now, it sures looks like an empty suit could beat Obama handily, but we shouldn’t underestimate him.

Also, the main reason why I say it would be a disaster for the party is that the party needs the conservative vote more than the conservatives need the party. No Repub presidential candidate will ever get elected if conservatives stay home in large numbers. So the party needs the conservative vote to win, and if they nominate Romney they are doing the worst possible thing they could do in terms of boosting conservative turnout.

Conservatives, on the other hand, don’t really need the Republican party, since we hardly get anything from them that would be too dear to give up. They haven’t let us have a conservative presidential candidate in 30 years, and even when we work our butts off to get the party majorities, they squander them and spit in our faces. We mainly get lip service from the party, and we can get that from any number of places if we march our votes elsewhere.


172 posted on 10/20/2011 4:16:39 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
Conservatives, on the other hand, don’t really need the Republican party, since we hardly get anything from them that would be too dear to give up. They haven’t let us have a conservative presidential candidate in 30 years, and even when we work our butts off to get the party majorities, they squander them and spit in our faces. We mainly get lip service from the party, and we can get that from any number of places if we march our votes elsewhere.

I would go so far as to say that when we Conservatives end up voting for a RINO because they have an (R) next to their name, they think we are rewarding them for being so moderate/leftist.

Ultimately a vote for a liberal with an (R) next to their name is still a vote for a liberal, and I think the time has come for us to stop rewarding the GOP for sliding left.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, if Romney or another RINO gets the nod, I'm done with the GOP.
173 posted on 10/20/2011 4:22:52 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Beagle8U

Got it. I just despise 0bama that much and more.


174 posted on 10/20/2011 4:37:28 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Hurrah me boys, for FREEDOM! `Tis the risin` o` the moon!)
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To: TheOldLady

Reading the “Count’s” posting history he was one piece of work!


175 posted on 10/20/2011 4:48:27 PM PDT by Eaker ("If someone misquotes you, it's because they know you're right.")
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To: Eaker

The patience of JimRob is enormous, but not infinite.


176 posted on 10/20/2011 4:55:28 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Jim Robinson

I assume that you are asking why Cain cannot move Romney to the right?

The only real reason is that Romney underestimates Cain and over estimates himself. It’ a matter of Romney’s ego, not the fault of either Cain or Bachman.

I simply sense that Romney seems to fear Gingrich and maybe even Santorum, a bit. With Santorum, I think that Romney fears his core values, backed by intelligence. With Gingrich, I think that Romney purely fears his intellect, which is probably superior to any in this primary race.

I truly believe that conservative Republicans would be worse off with Romney in the White House, than Obama. I’m afraid that Romney would lead the RINO Republicans to vote as liberals and all we would get is Obama-lite.


177 posted on 10/20/2011 4:56:06 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva

My point is Romney has no core values. He’ll “move” whichever direction is politically expedient to him at the moment. He’ll screw you in the end every time.


178 posted on 10/20/2011 5:12:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Count of Monte Logan; 230FMJ; 50mm; A.Hun; abigailsmybaby; AFPhys; Aircop_2006; AliVeritas; ...
Bug Off

Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my Viking Kitty/ZOT ping list!. . . don't be shy.

179 posted on 10/20/2011 5:24:21 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: livius
I think he’s right on this one. I certainly wouldn’t vote for Romney, no matter what.

Myself and most of my friends and neighbors agree.

180 posted on 10/20/2011 5:26:33 PM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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