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Ron Paul, Jon Huntsman videos take aim at leading rivals
Los Angeles Times ^ | 8-6-11 | Michael Muskal

Posted on 09/06/2011 6:02:41 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile

..."Paul's ad attacks Perry for serving as chairman of Gore's Texas campaign, accusing him of being 'Al Gore's Texas cheerleader.'"..."In his video, Huntsman goes after Romney, who is scheduled to release his job creation proposals later on Tuesday..."

Paul's video here...

Huntsman's video here...

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts; US: Texas; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: huntsman; jonhuntman; jonhuntsman; mittromney; paul; paulbearer; paulbot; paulestinians; paulistinians; perry; rickperry; romney; ronpaul; texas; utah
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Interesting that before these videos are even posted here on FR, the Mitt Perry amen corner has already posted its spin about them! Never mind that both these vids tell old stories. The only thing the Perry/Romney types must have going for them is bandwagon effect P.R. from the MSM--NOT policy, not effective governance, not any record of conservatism--or the flacks for Perry McRomney wouldn't be so obviously scared $#i#le$$ of this stuff.
1 posted on 09/06/2011 6:02:45 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile
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To: LibertarianInExile

The woman on Huntsman’s ad calls it mas a chu sis.

What’s up with that?


2 posted on 09/06/2011 6:07:48 PM PDT by DManA
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To: LibertarianInExile

RuPaul and Jon Huntsman will never become President. Thank God! Unfortunately, it won’t be Herman Cain so it’s between Perry and Romney and I have to choose Perry.


3 posted on 09/06/2011 6:14:31 PM PDT by conservativebuckeye
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To: LibertarianInExile
Breaking news?

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4 posted on 09/06/2011 6:14:43 PM PDT by lonevoice (schizophrenic hostage taking hobbit terrorist)
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To: LibertarianInExile

Paul’s ad praised Reagan, and attempted to link Paul to Reagan. Of course, Ron Paul trashed Reagan as a “failure” in 1988, making the ad for him completely disingenuous.

The Huntsman portrayal of Romney as a dusty first baseman’s mitt might have worked better if they used a catcher’s mitt. Still too arcane for most. I am also doubtful that Utah was #1 in job creation in absolute terms, and both stats were taken after both men left office. Moreover, since Perry has a current record for not squashing job creation in his own state, the ad risks driving voters away from Romney, but to Perry, not Huntsman. Huntsman is clearly hoping that southern and rural won’t play well with those “sophisticated” New England voters. He might get 3rd in New Hampshire, and then its over.


5 posted on 09/06/2011 6:16:35 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (It's fun to play with your vision, but don't ever play with your eyes.-1970's PSA)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Thanks to whomever posted this, I stole it

6 posted on 09/06/2011 6:29:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: conservativebuckeye

Since you’re choosing Perry, I do have one question for you I just can’t find an answer to anywhere, and I’m sure you can answer it quickly, without even a second to check with the focus groups.

When Ronald Reagan ran on the importance of the Presidency in creating jobs, I’m pretty sure he had a clear plan for how he would help the American economy recover from Jimmy Carter’s bumbling. Heck, you can read it in brief in his speech here: http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/reference/10.24.80.html.

My question for you is this: what’s Rick Perry’s plan?

I’d really like to hear what it is that as a “conservative,” Rick Perry will bring to the table from a policy perspective to drive unemployment down in the U.S. Since “JOBS! (like the ones in Texas)” seems to be his campaign slogan, I would expect as a supporter of his, you’d have some idea you can rattle off quickly.

Also, it’s interesting that a “limited-government conservative” guy like Perry is running on the power of the Presidency to bring jobs to the U.S., like the power of the Governor’s office evidently brought jobs to Texas (at least, according to his campaign staff).


7 posted on 09/06/2011 6:29:48 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Rick Perry sweep the polls? Naw, the illegals he's coddled in Texas do all his sweeping.)
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To: LibertarianInExile

Great, the crazy uncle in the attic and Mr. 1% have something to say. Let’s ask Lyndon Larouche and Pat Buchanan for their thoughts as well since they don’t have a chance in hell of winning either. I guess the demwit comparison would be Dennis Kucinich and Carol Mosely Braun.


8 posted on 09/06/2011 6:36:04 PM PDT by festusbanjo (This is what happens when you hire a guy to run the country that hadn't run anything but his mouth)
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To: lonevoice
I take it back, Mitt Perry is deserving of our worship no matter his past RINOing, we should all bow down to his holy candidacy as the Electable One!

Of course, I'll try hard to forget that for such a "great campaigner," Mitt Perry in his 2010 gubernatorial bid did about as well against the liberal Bill White as McCain did against Obama in Texas, roughly 12% better. By comparison, in the attorney general’s race, the GOP candidate won statewide by a 30 point spread—as pretty much all other Republicans in statewide races did. What made could have made good ol' electable Mitt Perry run 18 points closer to a LIBERAL? That ol' electable Mitt Perry lost conservatives...because Texas conservatives know he's a RINO.

But thank you, thank you for correcting my path and diverting me from the heretic Ron Paul the heroin pusher. Now that I know that he is pro-hookers and horse, somehow RINO Mitt Perry magically turns into a conservative!

9 posted on 09/06/2011 6:40:06 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Rick Perry sweep the polls? Naw, the illegals he's coddled in Texas do all his sweeping.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
"Paul’s ad praised Reagan, and attempted to link Paul to Reagan. Of course, Ron Paul trashed Reagan as a “failure” in 1988, making the ad for him completely disingenuous."

No, I think it's that you don't understand the word 'disingenuous.' Disingenous would be Perry running as an anti-illegal immigration candidate, when he's basically been Mr. Dream Act and Mr. Arizona-is-bad and Mr. Sanctuary City--right up until this last year, when suddenly he's Mr. Enforcement. He's Vicente Fox's best pal

and LaRaza's point man

, but now, he's Mr. Enforcement? LOL! Better check your Webster's, 'cause I'm pretty sure Mitt Perry's picture is next to the word "disingenuous" in the dictionary.

10 posted on 09/06/2011 6:48:11 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Rick Perry sweep the polls? Naw, the illegals he's coddled in Texas do all his sweeping.)
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To: LibertarianInExile
Ron Paul is a deranged fraud.

1. The Earmark King of the GOP. he was one of four gopers who refused to sign the earmark ban. His last eamark request was over 134,000,000
2. Jew hater
3. the Code Pink candidate
4. Supported the radical left wingers and terrorists
flotilla to Israeli
5. 9-11 apologist for the death of 4000 innocent fellow Americans
6.Supports the Iranian nuclear bomb program You think this guy is sane ?

11 posted on 09/06/2011 6:51:25 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: festusbanjo

“Great, the crazy uncle in the attic and Mr. 1% have something to say.”

Hey, even stopped clocks are right twice a day. Buchanan was sure right about H.W. being a tool. Let’s see how long it takes Mitt Perry to claim a border wall would be “ridiculous,” or decide that illegals should get in-state tuition and state aid to attend public universities. Oopsie, too late, Rick Romney did both of those already!


12 posted on 09/06/2011 6:54:25 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Rick Perry sweep the polls? Naw, the illegals he's coddled in Texas do all his sweeping.)
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To: LibertarianInExile

Regardless of what you may think of Perry, do you really feel it is necessary to commit sacrilege by placing his face on a image of Jesus Christ. In my opinion, it shows very bad taste.


13 posted on 09/06/2011 7:01:41 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy.)
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To: ncalburt
"Ron Paul is a deranged fraud."

Hey, if I were saying Paul's a saint, you might have something there. But I'm not. I'm just pointing out that all the stuff Paul's said here is absolutely grade-A true about Mitt Perry, yet that stuff somehow doesn't get posted. Meanwhile, all the slams Rick Romney is posting about Paul in RESPONSE to Paul's ad, that is here as if that somehow defuses Paul's truth-telling, that crap is plastered all over and bumped.

But say what you want about Paul--it doesn't make Mitt Perry a conservative. Perry's got a record of RINOism going back to his party-hopping days. For example, sure, Perry was a Democrat when he endorsed Dukakis and Al Gore. But after he hopped parties, in 2008—a bit before he was running for President—he endorsed...Rudy Giuliani!?!?!? GIULIANI? A well known gay-marriage-lovin’ pro-choice liberal Yankee Republican is the best the “conservative” governor of Texas can think of? But he did eventually endorse McCain, too (in February, while a host of others were still alive and kicking).

In 2007—a bit before he was running for President—Perry issued an executive order to make Gardasil, a new vaccine for the human papillomavirus, a cause of cervical cancer, mandatory for girls entering sixth grade. Even if parents were given the chance to have their child opt out, Merck, the ONE company that produced the vaccine, had hired his former chief of staff to be its lobbyist.

Ol’ conservative Rick’s slush funds for his political pals, the state “tech” and “enterprise” funds, are paid for out of state coffers. Imagine, an executive branch official with a large pool of money spent on his cronies (say, Obama and big brokerage firms and bankers)? Heck, Obama has just the one fund—Perry has all kinds of TARPs in Texas!

For example, ol’ conservative Rick’s set up state funding for sports building expenses, including funds tapped for Formula One track in Austin. Because when you think of conservatives, it’s a given they want their taxes to pay for European race track building!

Perry tried to convince the Texas Legislature to use a portion of the Teachers’ Retirement Fund to finance start-up businesses. He tried to take out life insurance on all Texas’ retired teachers—not that they or their families would see any money from those policies (see “Dead Peasant Insurance”).

In 2003—a bit before he was running for President—Perry decided he’d use Texas condemnation power to take Texans’ private property, have a company from Spain build a toll road on it, for all practical purposes own the property for years and set toll rates themselves, and, of course, charge Texans to use it. Now, of course, he’s all about eminent domain reform (as of June, anyway)!

He tried to privatize—sell—the Texas lottery to get money now so his budget wouldn’t have to have extra taxes or cuts. Never mind that the money it would make in the short run wouldn’t come close to the long run loss to the state. Of course, he’s against gambling in casinos in Texas, though, because he’s well paid by casinos outside Texas to believe that.

Rick spoke out against using E-Verify to prevent illegal immigrants from getting jobs as state employees, who get their paychecks from the taxpayers. He insisted it “would not make a hill of beans’ difference.”

In 2000, when small government Rick was elected, total spending by the Texas state government was approximately $49 billion. In 2010, it was approximately $90 billion. According to usdebtclock.org, the debt to GDP ratio in Texas is 22.9% and the debt per citizen is $10,645. In California (a total financial basket case), the debt to GDP ratio is just 18.7% and the debt per citizen is only $9932. The total debt of the Texas government has more than doubled since Rick Perry became governor. But of course, Rick Perry is all about small government—now that he’s running in the GOP presidential primary.

Even with the Texas oil boom, 23 states have a lower unemployment rate. And from December 2007 and April 2011, weekly wages in the U.S. increased by about 5 percent. Texas wages increased by just 0.6% over that same period.

Texas insurance rates in just about every field are TERRIBLE, and it’s largely because government intrusion is all on the side of the insurers, who have their buddy Perry carrying their water. Imagine if Florida had basically let insurers walk away from the Homestead hurricane—Perry was even trying hard to get that to happen in Texas with Ike!

Rick Perry has repeatedly raised taxes and fees while he has been governor. Texans are faced with significantly higher taxes and fees than before Rick Perry was elected. The business margins tax that Rick Perry pushed through in 2007 meant that Texas companies now pay taxes based on the total revenue of their companies, so small companies pay taxes on revenue, not income or profits. So you own a business, you pay Texas corporate taxes even if you are losing money! Of course, this was supposed to drop our property taxes in Texas. But...um...the highest effective property tax rates in the country are in Wisconsin and Texas, where rates exceed $18 per $1,000 of property value! Texas might not have an income tax, but imagine what that looks like when figured into your monthly mortgage bill!

And in a 2006 editorial—a bit before he was running for President—Rick called putting a fence along the border with Mexico “cost prohibitive.” But now, of course, this year, he’s against sanctuary cities and illegal immigration, talking tough by sending the bill to Big Sis, after he’s run up the tab himself.

But Ron Paul's a "deranged fraud," so that must make all Perry's RINOism go away, eh? Insulting someone else suddenly makes Mitt Perry into a conservative?

14 posted on 09/06/2011 7:05:14 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Rick Perry sweep the polls? Naw, the illegals he's coddled in Texas do all his sweeping.)
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I wonder if Willis Carto, Don Black, Will Williams, David Duke, Hutton Gibson, Pat Buchanan, Alex Jones, Aaron Dykes, the American Nationalist Union, Lew Rockwell, and Jeff Rense are all attracted to Ron Paul because they are closet heroin addicts? Or could it be something else? Hmmm…I wonder. I wonder. What else could it be?

Maybe they’re impressed that he’s the Chairman of the House Domestic Monetary Policy and Technology Subcommittee. Or, maybe it’s because for his first hearing on the Federal Reserve, his first witness was Thomas DiLorenzo, a southern secessionist who advocates for a second southern secession, and a society dominated by European Americans. I wonder.

I guess it could be they admire his frequent violations of Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution for everything from shrimp to trolley cars. Good ol’ Pork Pie Paul.

Or maybe it’s just the prostitute thingy.


15 posted on 09/06/2011 7:11:31 PM PDT by lonevoice (schizophrenic hostage taking hobbit terrorist)
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Oh look, it's another bash Perry post. I saw a thread where that didn't happen and I began to worry.

The real question is this: Huntsman is polling at 1%. Why is he at these debates?

16 posted on 09/06/2011 7:18:36 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Will racist demagogue Andre Carson be censured by the House?)
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To: TexConfederate1861
In my opinion, it shows very bad taste

I agree. It's disgusting.

17 posted on 09/06/2011 7:28:47 PM PDT by lonevoice (schizophrenic hostage taking hobbit terrorist)
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To: lonevoice; South40
I wonder if blah blah blah...insinuation...guilt by association...maybe it’s just the prostitute thingy.

ROFLMAO! Since you're such a constitutional scholar, why don't you speak up and tell me how the great conservative Mitt Perry demands federal aid for the Texas fires now? How Ricky McRomney constitutionally accepted TARP and other stimulus funding to keep Texas' budget in the black? How Mitt Perry managed to suddenly figure out the TSA existed and its searches were unconstitutional, and secession was a constitutional option, right up until the time he did a 180 on each of those stands about ten seconds later? And while you're at it, got anything to say for Perry's endorsement of Giuliani? Anything to say about him carrying water for Mexican border-hoppers and providing in-state tuition for illegals? Anything at all to say about him only doing anything conservative when election years roll around, or he's blackmailed into it by Senate conservatives? No? Cat got your tongue? What a surprise!

18 posted on 09/06/2011 7:33:30 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Rick Perry sweep the polls? Naw, the illegals he's coddled in Texas do all his sweeping.)
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To: LibertarianInExile
I see. For you, it's about the legalization of drugs. LOL!

What in the world makes you think I have any investment whatsoever in defending Romney or Perry's records? Never mind, just take another bong hit. It'll be okay.

Here's your commercial: LibertyConstitutionRonPaulIwinthedebate

19 posted on 09/06/2011 7:40:51 PM PDT by lonevoice (schizophrenic hostage taking hobbit terrorist)
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To: LibertarianInExile

I find it amusing that you claimed that I didn’t know the meaning of the word disingenuous, which I used perfectly, and then went into an entire spiel about Perry being disingenuous, which was irrelevant to my point.

I am not a Perry supporter, and I believe that he is an opportunist.

That doesn’t mean that Paul is not being disingenuous when he attempts to tie himself to Reagan.

By all means, point out Perry’s own hypocrisies. You don’t have to tear down my critique of a Paul ad in order to do so.

For the record, I am a Palin supporter.


20 posted on 09/06/2011 7:52:11 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (It's fun to play with your vision, but don't ever play with your eyes.-1970's PSA)
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