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Re: The Anti-Science Smear
NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE ^ | August 30, 2011 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 08/30/2011 10:58:34 PM PDT by neverdem

Rich: I liked your column today. But you only struck a glancing blow at my biggest peeve about the whole anti-science thing: Why does the Left get to pick which issues are the benchmarks for “science”? Why can’t the measure of being pro-science be the question of heritability of intelligence? Or the existence of fetal pain? Or the distribution of cognitive abilities among the sexes at the extreme right tail of the bell curve? Or if that’s too upsetting, how about dividing the line between those who are pro- and anti-science along the lines of support for geoengineering? Or — coming soon — the role cosmic rays play in cloud formation? Why not make it about support for nuclear power? Or Yucca Mountain? Why not deride the idiots who oppose genetically modified crops, even when they might prevent blindness in children?

Some of these examples are controversial, others tendentious, but all are just as fair as the way the Left framed embryonic stem cell research and all are more relevant than questions about evolution. (Quick: If Obama changed his mind about evolution tomorrow and became a creationist, what policies would change? I’ll wait.)

The point is that the Left considers itself the undisputed champion of “science,” but there are scads of issues where they take un-scientific points of view.

Sure they can cite dissidents scientists — just as conservatives can — on this or that issue. But everyone knows that when the science directly threatens the Left’s pieties, it’s the science that must bend — or break. During the Larry Summers fiasco at Harvard, comments delivered in the classic spirit of open inquiry and debate cost Summers his job. Actual scientists got the vapors because he violated the principles not of science but of liberalism. During the Gulf oil spill, the Obama administration dishonestly claimed that its independent experts supported a drilling moratorium. They emphatically did not. The president who campaigned on basing his policies on “sound science” ignored his own hand picked experts. According to the GAO, he did something very similar when he shut down Yucca Mountain. His support for wind and solar energy, as you suggest,  isn’t based on science but on faith. And that faith has failed him dramatically.

The idea that conservatives are anti-science is self-evident and self-pleasing liberal hogwash. I see no reason why conservatives should even argue the issue on their terms when it’s so clearly offered in bad faith in the first place.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antiscience; antisciencesmear
The Anti-Science Smear


1 posted on 08/30/2011 10:58:39 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

To oppose the use of science to carry out evil ends is not anti-science, any more than opposing the use of guns to commit murders is anti-gun or opposing the use of the press to libel people is anti-press.


2 posted on 08/30/2011 11:13:08 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: neverdem

Leftists are lousy scientists as a rule.


3 posted on 08/30/2011 11:16:06 PM PDT by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: neverdem
Liberals have been so wrong so often on matters of 'science' that it's really no task to shoot them down when they bring it up. I once got into it with a young Captain who was railing against pro-business, pro-religion, anti-science Republicans. I asked him how he liked his body armor. He did. Then I pointed out it was eeeevil corporations like Dupont using science they apparently don't believe in to invent Kevlar. And pretty much everything else in his toolkit was invented, designed and built by eeevil, largely pro-Republican businesses using non-Biblical science.

Anyway, once that many wheels start spinning in someone's head, I like to show a bit of mercy and let them process for a bit. I think he learned something from it. Oh, captains. They're so impressionable.

4 posted on 08/30/2011 11:22:47 PM PDT by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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To: Steel Wolf

It’s commonly agreed among evangelical theologians that when God tells mankind in the Genesis account to “subdue” the (wild, un-tamed) creation, this automatically embraces the use of scientific methods and empirical study to gain the requisite knowledge and understanding. King Solomon, noted for wisdom, may have been one of the first scientists and encyclopedia writers in the world, when he catalogued everything in nature that he could in his spare time.


5 posted on 08/30/2011 11:44:52 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Well put.


6 posted on 08/31/2011 12:28:41 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: neverdem
Well, we got those that can not differentiate practical science from science fiction, even in Geneva.
7 posted on 08/31/2011 12:50:07 AM PDT by oyez ( America is being pimped.)
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To: neverdem

once again, the Liberals go gaga over possible microbiotic bacterial life on Mars, but they can’t tell you when life begins on Earth...


8 posted on 08/31/2011 1:48:50 AM PDT by FDNYRHEROES (It's 3 AM. Let me sleep on it. I'll get back to you in 16 hours.)
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Thanks neverdem.
Why not deride the idiots who oppose genetically modified crops, even when they might prevent blindness in children?
Because there are paranoid nutjobs running things, as well as passing themselves off as rank and file conservatives?


9 posted on 08/31/2011 9:20:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv; Jim Robinson
Why not deride the idiots who oppose genetically modified crops, even when they might prevent blindness in children?

Do you have any idea how that weird 'Â' got in there? I usually find it in source codes for text. I have to delete them after inspecting every sentence. It's easier to just excerpt the story, IMHO.

10 posted on 09/01/2011 7:12:03 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

It’s a non-breakable space, I have that pesky problem from time to time. The Chipmunk BASIC program I use to process the GGG digest each week replaces those with a regular space, and changes other chars as well (ellipsis is replaced by ..., so-called smart quotes are replaced with standard quotes, etc etc).


11 posted on 09/02/2011 4:23:39 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
It’s a non-breakable space...

Egads??? Thanks SunkenCiv

12 posted on 09/02/2011 11:23:19 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem; Fractal Trader; Genesis defender; 4horses+amule; Carlucci; Little Bill; Desdemona; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

13 posted on 09/04/2011 1:25:12 AM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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