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Conference aims to normalize pedophilia
Daily Caller ^ | 08/15/11 | John Rossomando

Posted on 08/15/2011 9:14:56 AM PDT by freespirited

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To: mamelukesabre


Wrong is wrong. It’s wrong outside American culture and mentality even if the rest of the world it’s fazed by it.

It’s not wrong because of a sequence of historical events which have nothing to do with it that somehow you are appealing to.

It’s too bad that you can’t grasp something as simple as that.

61 posted on 08/15/2011 12:45:58 PM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: little jeremiah
Free speech should end where NAMBLA begins.

I couldn't agree more.

62 posted on 08/15/2011 12:58:26 PM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: metmom

wow, I’m amazed you have the necessary number of brain cells to operate your computer. take a look at post 59. I don’t have time to dumb it down for ya.

63 posted on 08/15/2011 1:04:38 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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Although the DVD is not readily available, one of the best documentaries about pedophilia is...

(The JPG is a link to the IMDB info on the documentary.)

I've been trying to find a reliable source for the movie for a while, but the Just, Melvin, Just Evil website doesn't even offer it for sale.

It is about Melvin Just. He molested his daughters when they were all very young. The son of one of the now adult daughters is the director. His mother was suicidal and he was interested in why. He starts digging up the family dirt and uncovers a monster. He interviews the grown daughters and the stories they tell are graphic and horrendous. (Including the murder of a social worker checking on reports of molestation.)

The damage this one man did is written all over the drug addicted and alcoholic lives of the grown daughters. They're barely functional, and yet psychologically struggle for what little sunshine they can find in their day-to-day existence.

The documentary is a fascinating study in the long term mental health problems resulting from selfish predators stealing the innocence from their prey.

64 posted on 08/15/2011 1:14:07 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Tex-Con-Man

The title says it all: Just Evil.

It isn’t a mental illness. It is a choice to predate and selfishly take whatever they want, whenever they want, however they want, from whomever they want.

We have had this in our extended family, so I have done research. Pedophilia is an inborn sexual preference for children only. It is relatively rare. Child molestation is a case of opportunity and the perpetrators can be of any preference, including heterosexual adult partners. Often they are sexual addicts whose lives revolve around their sexual organs. Family members are the most likely victims just because of proximity and opportunity. It is way too common.

These are manipulators and liars. They lie to themselves, as well. Most psychiatrists doubt they can be changed, although some can maybe learn some control. First, they have to learn empathy, which they lack. There is even disagreement about whether having been abused causes abuse.

It is closest to sociopathy.

It sounds like those who want to condition acceptance are trying to differentiate between those perpetrators who have been caught and those who have managed to not be caught. There are hundreds of thousands in prison for molestation and only a few are actual pedophiles. No telling how many are out there still predating on children, who are usually young girls.

It is devastating, not only to the primary victims, but to the families of all concerned. Those who have had it happen in their families and close friendship circles know what I mean.

The entire *trend* towards dressing young girls in a provocative manner and encouraging a very young self-presentation among teenaged and adult women exacerbates the problem, IMO. Everyone has noticed how Hollywood and the fashion industry encourages an androgynous look while promoting near-anorexia among girls. An entire generation is adverse to adult female body hair, which I cannot recall being the case in earlier generations.

Personally, I think it can also begin with *regular* adult pornography. Like any addiction, overuse vitiates the response and the practitioners keep looking for more potent images.

65 posted on 08/15/2011 1:49:13 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: All

It’s always fun though to see them get busted on To catch a predator.

66 posted on 08/15/2011 7:43:21 PM PDT by Rockerwolf
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To: MizSterious

Pandora’s box is open and unless its shut,this foul abomination will become “respectable” also. But I don’t see Pandora’s box being shut before even more horrible consequences are inflicted on the country than are now.

67 posted on 08/15/2011 8:11:07 PM PDT by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: little jeremiah

If the Attorney General’s list of subversive organizations were restored and revamped, NAMBLA should definitely be on the list.

68 posted on 08/15/2011 8:47:36 PM PDT by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: ArrogantBustard
From the Encyclopedia Britannica entry for "pedophelia",

psychosexual disorder in which an adult's arousal and sexual gratification occur primarily through sexual contact with prepubescent children.

69 posted on 08/15/2011 10:41:57 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: andy58-in-nh

I totally agree. All of our children are grown but if someone did that to one of our grandkids, it would be a race as to who would shoot their butts first - me, hubby or their parents. I would do it in a heartbeat and gladly go to jail. I am getting so sick and tired of perverts who try to normalize their perversion. Good Lord!!!

70 posted on 08/16/2011 5:01:14 AM PDT by gopheraj
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To: TheBigIf
You are partly mistaken in your definition of "orientation." It is not a made-up left-wing term.

Most of us who atrongly oppose the "gay agenda" nevertheless make a distinction between "orientation" and "behavior". Correctly used, "orientation" refers to a persisting pattern of sexual interest or arousal response, independent of the question of what causes it. The word "orientation" does not imply that homosexuality is a "natural inborn quality."

An arousal pattern is called an "orientation" whether it's influenced by genetics, prenatal/maternal factors, childhood emotional development, having a negative emotional relatioship with one's father, endocrine issues at adolescence, having been molested, seduced or assaulted, or any other factors at any stage in life.

Agreed, natural healthy sexuality is always heterosexual. That's the tendency any normal member of a sexually reproducing species will develop, by definition. But some people have to struggle with abnormal tendencies all their lives. They are not responsible for involuntary feelings. They ARE responsible for controlling their behavior.

As are we all.

71 posted on 08/16/2011 11:38:01 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Justice and judgment are the foundation of His throne." Psalm 89:14)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

that is the myth of involuntary.

it is not involuntary, it is conditioned like an adiction or a fetish. Conditioned from the normal. How many tortured children were conditioned by abusers and have deviated from the norm in order to “survive” the experience?

There is no involuntary, there is only do or not do. Normal or not normal as demonstrated by conduct.

72 posted on 08/16/2011 11:43:38 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! and
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To: freespirited

“Remove pedophilia from DSM-V. It’s for the children.”

73 posted on 08/16/2011 11:50:11 AM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: longtermmemmory
Homosexual tendencies are abnormal. If (as you mention) a child has been conditioned by abusers to have these abnormal tendencies or feelings, they are involuntary (on the part of the victim) --- but we can hope he will find a way to develop more healthy responses.

I know of a young man who was raised in an overseas orphanage environment where there were literally no adult men. None. Up to the age of almost five, he never saw an adult man, and when he was adopted by a normal U.S. family, he was evidently confused and uneasy about how to relate to his very decent and caring adoptive father.

He has been dealing with confused feeling about other males for a long time. On the one hand, maleness seems strange and exotic to him. On the other hand, maleness attracts him, but in a sexed-up way. He does not like or defend these feelings, he finds them unconfortable and upsetting. But his feelings are not voluntary on his part.

You can't justly blame him for his confused feelings. You can only try to help him progress toward greater normalcy. And of course he's answerable for his actions, as we all are. .

So we would agree that this young man is responsible for his conduct: the choice of "do or don't do." It is each person's duty to do good and avoid evil.

But you can't blame a person from an abnormal environment for being burdered with abnormal feelings, which he experiences as a persistent difficulty. This is what is meant by orientation. And this is where he needs help.

74 posted on 08/16/2011 12:19:23 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Justice and judgment are the foundation of His throne." Psalm 89:14)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Not illegal in man’s law, but coveting is illegal in the Bible. Nip it in the bud at the source of want must be the way to go because that is what God says to do. If we can’t retrain our brains, why have psychologists? If psychologists don’t want to help others - GET RID OF THEM ALL. And I am a psych major. :)

75 posted on 08/17/2011 9:17:38 AM PDT by huldah1776
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