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Flash Mobs Open Letter To All Urban Residents & Especially Jews
Ammoland.com ^ | 12 August, 2011 | Rabbi Dovid Bendory

Posted on 08/13/2011 5:09:24 AM PDT by marktwain

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Carry a weapon. Practice. Know the law.

Advice for the ages.

1 posted on 08/13/2011 5:09:29 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Over a year ago I warned that these flash mobs would eventually be used for violence and perhaps even terrorism.

I was flamed and called every name in the book for trying to throw a wet towel on these “playful pranks.”

Beware of mobs. All types. Beware of mobs, because they are comprised of people. And every person has some bad born into him.


2 posted on 08/13/2011 5:15:16 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: marktwain

I had never heard of one till the stupid cell phone commercial a month or 2 ago...

my theory is this...if someone gets right in my face (by that I mean physical contact)....I have the right to punch said face...

...if someone gets violent with me....it is my civic duty to return it 10 fold....


3 posted on 08/13/2011 5:18:41 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: marktwain

And one more point...

these “flash mobs” of violent blacks are no different than the “lynch mobs” of yesterday.

And that’s what we ought to call them, wireless lynch mobs carried out by the black version of the KKK.


4 posted on 08/13/2011 5:21:23 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Over a year ago I warned that these flash mobs would eventually be used for violence and perhaps even terrorism.
Wait until Election Day 2012, and the days preceding it.
Violent flash-mobs will be out in force trying to intimidate every white voter in the country.
And the ones who aren't intimidated will be met by ...

5 posted on 08/13/2011 5:23:27 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: marktwain

“know the law” — In other words, put the gun away, because unless you’re a cop and you can explain how the unarmed 4 year old girl “made a threatening move to her diaper”, you will be arrested and tried for murder after dropping the thrice-convicted, machine-gun wielding man who just broke into your infant daughter’s bedroom at 3am. And if he’s a “person of color” you can forget the “trial” part — straight to conviction.


6 posted on 08/13/2011 5:26:00 AM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: marktwain

How do you train to use a firearm “under pressure”?

Except for being in intense situations (as they do in the army and law enforcement, for example) how do train for something like that?


7 posted on 08/13/2011 5:27:17 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: webstersII

I am surprised that none of the flash mob participents has not been stabbed or shot yet. Indeed, most of their victims have been your average joe out for a good time but in Milwaukee, Philadelphis, Chicago, etc......someone has be be carrying a weapon for defense. I am afraid is they did, the mob mentality would take over and the victims would suffer even greater threat from the entire mob.

Might be a good idea though....leaving a few of the mobsters lying in the streets may slow things down a bit.


8 posted on 08/13/2011 5:34:03 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: marktwain
I think it is so sad that something as refreshing and entertaining as the original "flash mob" concept (see examples here and here) have to get a bad name because of calling hoodlums who burn, rob and destroy by the same name.
9 posted on 08/13/2011 5:34:52 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie mmm mmm mmm)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

“You cannot save the planet but you may be able to save yourself and your family.


10 posted on 08/13/2011 5:35:07 AM PDT by Recon Dad ("Don't shoot fast, unless you also shoot good..")
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Flash mobs are the new lynch mobs.
11 posted on 08/13/2011 5:36:46 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: marktwain

Flashmobs are the Brownshirts of the 21st century.

Search on “Obama phone” and see who is eligible for free cell phone with text service.

The democRAT pols will begin to use them for political intimidation once they figure out how to control the mobs and not get their fingerprints on their activity.


12 posted on 08/13/2011 5:37:11 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

I wonder - seriously - about the correct response , including the use or non-use of deadly force if caught up in one of these events.

As I posted here previously, I was at the National Zoo on Easter Monday with two women and eight children, two in strollers, when the flash mob stabbing occurred. The 10-15 perpetrators were ten yards or less from us at their closest, for a period of about 30-45 seconds.

I have CCWs or reciprocity in 33 states, DC of course not included. I have reasonable training and had enough cool to get the two families into what defensive cover was available. If I had one of my weapons, I probably would at least had my hand on it.

The question for combat experienced FReepers is, would producing a weapon and shooting a rioter inside of 7 yards have been the correct play TO MAXIMIZE THE SURVIVAL OF THOSE I WAS PROTECTING?

Undoubtedly, had I shot one or two of the “youths”, it would have been a public service in the long run. The issue is, if it did not disperse the mob, the short run consequences for my protectees would likely have been much worse than it actually was.

Is a lone armed citizen up against, but not directly attacked by, one of these mobs better off with or without the threat of deadly force?


13 posted on 08/13/2011 5:39:25 AM PDT by Jim Noble (To live peacefully with credit-based consumption and fiat money, men would have to be angels.)
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To: webstersII

Practice is the process of training your mind and muscles so that you may react without having to think about it.

It’s what pro athletes do for hours every day.


14 posted on 08/13/2011 5:41:16 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (George Lopez is the black hole of funny. Nothing funny can escape his suck.)
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To: webstersII

Check around your area for IDPA-style shooting competitions. That’s one way. The scenario shooting competitions are very good for building confidence with pressure. Larger competitions offer a variety of classes. You can find IDPA online.

Alternatively, always practice with someone who is also seeking to build these skills. You can add some pressure to the shooting exercise by placing time limits, shot counts, and shot placement. Granted these don’t completely simulate the conditions of a flash-mob scene, but adding noise and lights will help to raise the pressure level, too. Regardless, though, always devote a portion of your practice sessions to simple, no-pressure, aim-and-fire work.

Also, when you practice, set aside some time for practicing clearing your weapon in the event of jams or misfires, and mag swaps or reloads. Also, Draw-and-fire and Move-and-fire exercises. These skills are every bit as important as the rest.

And, if you have the means, there are several excellent tactical shooing schools around the country that offer a wide variety of training programs from beginner through more experienced shooters. My son and I have thoroughly enjoyed a number of these while gaining valuable skills and experience that we carry into our maintenance shooting and further training. Plus, it’s a great way to spend some time together; and pass along skills to the wife and daughters, too.


15 posted on 08/13/2011 5:47:57 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: marktwain; All

Certainly very good advice.

I’ve been following these “flash mob” stories for awhile, and certainly it does pay to be armed.

However, what happens when you go up against a “flash mob”, let’s say, composed of 100 or so individuals, all of whom are armed as equally as you?

All it’s going to take is one of the “flash mobbers” to get shot, and they’ll arm up as well. I’m surprised they haven’t already, to be honest.

It’s easy to say fire off a shot and they’ll run.....but what if they don’t? They may not be the shots in the world, but all it takes is one bullet from a lucky shot, and down you go.

I’m NOT saying you shouldn’t defend yourself in a life-threatening situation; of course you should. I’m asking a hypothetical question. What happens when the “flash mobs” are as equally well-armed and carrying as law-abiding citizens?


16 posted on 08/13/2011 5:54:40 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: marktwain

Flash mob, trash mob. A flash mob should at least one that breaks out in a routine that happens outdoors on a nice day singing, “Good Day Sunshine” or “Here Comes The Sun”.


17 posted on 08/13/2011 5:57:20 AM PDT by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: Doctor 2Brains

If your “know the law” comment is accurate where you live, there are two possibilities open to you.

1. The “long road” — get active and work to get your state on the road back to constitutional laws.

2. The “quick fix” — move to Texas.


18 posted on 08/13/2011 6:02:17 AM PDT by LoneStarC
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

I agree, and I thank you for your 2 delightful examples. The police should call these evil mobs something else.


19 posted on 08/13/2011 6:04:50 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: marktwain
One righteous person in Milwaukee, licensed to carry concealed, stepping out of his or her car and shooting one of the “youths” as they were beating the teen victim would have stopped that “flash mob” instantly.

Of this, I would not be so very sure. What we don't know about the 'mob' in this case is if they would return fire instead. CCW in the face of a violent direct threat...yep, check. CCW in the face of a lone shooter...yep, check. CCW in the face of being cornered by a mob myself...yep, check.

I think the first time they run into a CCW person it will surprise them. Then they will come back more prepared the next time. The drawback is it really is just a matter of time before bullets start flying whether from the mobsters or from a citizen defending themselves.

20 posted on 08/13/2011 6:05:23 AM PDT by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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