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U.S. official: Killed forces were on Afghanistan rescue mission
CNN ^ | 8/6/11 | David Ariosto and Barbara Starr

Posted on 08/06/2011 2:31:09 PM PDT by truthandlife

Twenty-five U.S. special forces killed early Saturday in Afghanistan were on a mission to rescue another team of military personnel pinned down by insurgents, a U.S. military official told CNN.

The helicopter that went down in eastern Afghanistan carried 30 U.S. military members, including 22 Navy SEALs and three other special forces. They were part of a "quick reaction force" sent in to pick up others engaged in a fierce firefight, the official said.

In the single deadliest incident since the start of the decade-long Afghan war, the Army Chinook carrying a team of U.S. special forces and U.S. and Afghan soldiers went down in Wardak province.

Insurgents are believed to have shot down the helicopter, a military official said.

The majority of the Navy SEALs who died belonged to the same covert unit that conducted the raid that killed Osama bin Laden in May, though they were not the same men, the official said.

"It's a big loss" for the SEALs, one of the officials said. "The numbers are high."

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1 posted on 08/06/2011 2:31:13 PM PDT by truthandlife
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To: truthandlife
carrying a team of U.S. special forces and U.S. and Afghan soldiers

Hmmmm....

2 posted on 08/06/2011 2:35:16 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: truthandlife

Shades of Operation Red Wing (Seal Team 1) all over again. Not good.


3 posted on 08/06/2011 2:35:16 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Americans need to wean their government off of its dependence on foreign money.)
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To: truthandlife

What a tragedy. And what makes it even more tragic is that this is Vietnam Part II. As soon as we pull out, the bad guys will take over the country, just like they did in ‘Nam. A corrupt government, with an incompetent military, will not win against political (or in the case of Afghanistan) religious, fanatics.


4 posted on 08/06/2011 2:36:38 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: truthandlife
Last week there was an article about how Iran is really running all military activity in the Middle East and how intelligence says that they are planning on a Beruit-like event.

I am wondering if this was the handiwork of the Iranian Republican Guard? If so it is long overdue to go after them and hunt them down anywhere they can be found.

5 posted on 08/06/2011 2:37:01 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: truthandlife; Pride in the USA; Stillwaters
...on a mission to rescue another team of military personnel pinned down by insurgents

Will we ever know what became of the personnel they were trying to rescue? This just got even more horrible, if possible.

6 posted on 08/06/2011 2:38:33 PM PDT by lonevoice (schizophrenic hostage taking hobbit terrorist)
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To: truthandlife

It’s about time our side pulled off a big “oops...sorry ‘bout that” sort of thing.


7 posted on 08/06/2011 2:42:34 PM PDT by ryderann
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To: gaijin

Seal Team 6 - this wh gave them up. Just like guns to mexico and south america and drugs in to usa.


8 posted on 08/06/2011 2:44:00 PM PDT by edcoil (The will to win is important, but the will to prepare is vital. -- Joe Paterno)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The comments made on the CNN page are disgusting.


9 posted on 08/06/2011 2:45:04 PM PDT by Josa
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To: Josa

I notice the tolerant left continue to refer to us as a bunch of homosexuals. (Teabaggers). I guess that’s about as low as they can go.


10 posted on 08/06/2011 2:47:40 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Americans need to wean their government off of its dependence on foreign money.)
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To: gaijin
I hate to ask about the team they were sent to rescue...

Mike

11 posted on 08/06/2011 2:48:04 PM PDT by MichaelP (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools ~HS)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Whoops! Read the ping and got this on the wrong thread. Disregard.


12 posted on 08/06/2011 2:48:37 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Americans need to wean their government off of its dependence on foreign money.)
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To: gaijin

Why are highly trained scarce and valuable specialists like SEALS being used for a mission like this that would be more appropriate for Rangers or airmobile infantry? If no one else was available than I would understand. Nonethelesw it would seem that you should save these guys for tasks that are appropriate for their unique skill level.


13 posted on 08/06/2011 2:49:07 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: truthandlife

I bet the enemy have been after them ever since their own Benedict Arnold president blew their cover and outed them ...


14 posted on 08/06/2011 2:54:31 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: truthandlife

Who was the brainiac officer who put such a large group of elite troops on one helicopter?

Shades of the Carter Iran rescue fiasco.

I thought SEALs traveled in smaller units to avoid this very scenario?


15 posted on 08/06/2011 2:59:17 PM PDT by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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To: gaijin
I know. Afghan soldiers onboard. 'Hmnn' indeed.

A helicopter full of SEALs would be too much for a martyr to resist.

All they'd need is a single grenade.

I think I'll hold out for more information to become available, if it ever does.

16 posted on 08/06/2011 2:59:44 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: truthandlife

this was a setup from the word go. Put out some bad intel about HVT’s, knowing that the US military is going to send some ‘high speed unit’. If ST6 was on a rescue mission, then they were rescuing other members of their unit or another SPECOP’s unit. The bad guys, now being very well informed of the TTP’s, of our elite military units, were waiting on them.

Of course, if the moron-in-chief, had to let the world know who did it and how. Stating I and My, over and over again, to prove that he is in charge. The whole while, letting the world know how these operators do their job. Well, no more. For a little publicity and some rating in the polls, the secret is out and the bad guys have been paying attention.

God bless those men and their families.


17 posted on 08/06/2011 3:02:23 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: anymouse

No kidding! Damn...too many eggs in one basket!


18 posted on 08/06/2011 3:03:06 PM PDT by Kahuna
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To: truthandlife

This is very sad - all loss of life by our guys is sad, but this one is bad because it just seems preventable.

Why were they all together? How trustworthy were those Afghanis? (Personally, I don’t think any of them seem very trustworthy.)

This is all very depressing. Many people on other threads were speculating that it was Obama’s Ramadan gift to the Taliban, but I don’t think he’s smart enough to carry off something like that. But I doubt that he’s very sad that it happened.


19 posted on 08/06/2011 3:04:24 PM PDT by livius
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To: qaz123

I think sadly you are correct...


20 posted on 08/06/2011 3:05:32 PM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: truthandlife

What, there wasn’t enough fuel to put the men on more than one?


21 posted on 08/06/2011 3:08:28 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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RIP. This doesn't bode well for those they were dispatched to rescue.

Will Obama rethink is Afghanistan drawdown which his commanders said was not recommended?

22 posted on 08/06/2011 3:08:50 PM PDT by newzjunkey (the circular firing squad has got to end now)
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To: truthandlife

SEALS for a routine QRF mission? That is a total lie.

That would be rangers, marines —whatever.

SEALS are a high-priority direct action outfit.

We’re reading a cover-story, here.


23 posted on 08/06/2011 3:12:33 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

I hope that you are right. Hard for me to believe that we would integrate Afghan’s with SEAL teams.


24 posted on 08/06/2011 3:17:53 PM PDT by Kahuna
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To: anymouse

this is not unusual to have that many men on one aircraft, you can fit 50 Marines on a CH-53


25 posted on 08/06/2011 3:19:00 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: truthandlife

Obama HUSSEIN’S Rules of Engagement Drastically Favor His Brothers, The MUSLIM RADICAL TERRORISTS!!


26 posted on 08/06/2011 3:20:16 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: truthandlife
The troops died during a "quick reaction" mission to assist military personnel pinned down by insurgents in a fierce firefight... "It's a big loss" for the SEALs, one of the officials said. "The numbers are high."

Something seems odd about this.

27 posted on 08/06/2011 3:21:42 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: truthandlife

Can’t imagine Afghan soldiers EVER opperating with a SEAL team. If so something is seriously fubared here.


28 posted on 08/06/2011 3:23:06 PM PDT by culpeper (I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny... TJ)
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To: truthandlife

A very difficult pill to swallow.

Prayers for these brave men.

The Best of The Best!


29 posted on 08/06/2011 3:27:41 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Operation Red Wing

Interesting to review that. ROEs and comm equipment failures led to the deaths of a lot of good men. Cell phones work reliably even in Holestan but we can't give the best trained fighters in the world a good satphone to talk to the Ops Commander. Funny, isn't it. I mean if iPhone's don't work Apple stock takes a nosedive and if they don't fix it they are out of business. But a defense contract where lives are at stake just goes on and on and on, an Energizer Bunny laying golden eggs.

I think another question about strategy is in order, which is, does this really work, is it really worth it? I fully understand decapitating the enemy by taking out HVTs, and using active measures of disruption, but when we are talking about SEAL TEAM 6 kinds of guys, this is really really expensive, and really really expensive when you lose 20 of them on a rescue op. There are alternatives using 500lb laser guided bombs or laying down cluster bombs on a bunch of guys pinning down a position (way where is tac air in all of this?). Of course there is more collateral damage, but if you cannot take the collateral damage, and I will concede that we might not be able to, then maybe you just decide you should not fight the damned war in the first place.

30 posted on 08/06/2011 3:28:40 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Kahuna

They wouldn’t or the SEALs would not have it. After 2008 there are *many* Major Hassan’s in the govt now. His campaign was filled with Muslim Brotherhood types in 2008.

The death of Bin Laden by Seal Team 6? Bin Laden gets buried at sea. Shortly afterwards Seal Team 6 dies together in a crash, the day after the debt rating is lowered. Yeah sure.

The US military are sheep to the slaughter by our islamic govt. Where are all the LTC Lakin haters that used to post here?


31 posted on 08/06/2011 3:32:41 PM PDT by John334
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To: edcoil; Jim Robinson

The Open Border with Mexico is the DEMORAT’S PRIZE! They don’t give shet about poor Mexicans coming to America for a better life! The DEMORATS depend on the huge Funds they derive from the Inner City Drug Trades, not only for Campaign Funds, but the Dirty funds they are given personally from the Drug Traders!! The DEMORATS have sold their Souls to SATAN long ago! Remember Zell Miller’s keynote speech at the RNC 2004 Convention, He was no longer a part of his lifelong Democratic Party, the new Party was Corrupt and wanted “to throw wet spitballs at the Enemy!”
The DEMORATS depend on Stupidity and Blind Alligance combined with Government Wefare, Handouts and Blackmail along with Physical Threats and Damage to get Control! Thats what Hitler, Mao, Stalin , Castro, Chavez and every other dirtbag Future Dictator did in accomplishing their Obectives! Remember the Kenyan Riots that burned thousands of Kenyan Christians alive in their churchs when Obama HUSSEIN lost the Kenyan Presidential election only months before “HE” stole the DEMORAT NOMINATION, and the ELECTION OF 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


32 posted on 08/06/2011 3:36:05 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: gaijin

here is more insight fromt The longwar Journal

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2011/08/38_coalition_afghan.php


33 posted on 08/06/2011 3:36:34 PM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: AndyJackson

This was a set up. I am amazed how naive some people are. See Major Hassan. The American govt and US Military plus intel have lots of Major Hassan’s now. See financial downgrade yesterday. Setting up total internal destruction.


34 posted on 08/06/2011 3:39:07 PM PDT by John334
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To: truthandlife

Has the imperial federal government ordered our flag to half mast yet? I did mine in the front yard, whether they do or not, I will honor those men. I went up to the church and lowered the 3 flags up there also.


35 posted on 08/06/2011 3:40:17 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (EVERY knee shall bow and EVERY mouth shall say: Jesus Christ IS LORD!!!!)
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To: AndyJackson
I agree. Americans need to demand that Congress agree to win any war at all costs prior to sending America's young men and women into a war zone. The ROEs have got to go. Rules for war, especially when the enemy doesn't play by your rules, is just a goofy idea developed by a bunch of buffoons who don't have to fight the war.

During Vietnam, the rule makers decided that our aircraft could not engage Soviet ships in Haiphong harbor that were delivering weapons and ammunition to the North Vietnamese communists. We lost a lot of planes and pilots to antiaircraft fire coming up from the laughing and grinning Soviet knuckledraggers aboard those ships.

36 posted on 08/06/2011 3:40:29 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Americans need to wean their government off of its dependence on foreign money.)
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To: edcoil
“... this wh gave them up.”

This was my thought too. It's sickening to even consider such a thing, but we do and with just cause.

37 posted on 08/06/2011 3:40:37 PM PDT by Humal
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To: opentalk

I smell a RAT!!!!


38 posted on 08/06/2011 3:40:45 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: AndyJackson

When You have a Muslim Terrorist in the Closet acting as Our Alleged “Commander-In-Chief” and he Hates AMERICA, there are going to be alot of Great American Patriots Killed because of HIS REAL AGENDA!! Obama is 10-to One Trillion Times more dangerous than Bin Ladin, Mao, Putin,
Chavez and thousands more because Obama conned the American Morons and got himself into the Oval Office thru Corruption and Decay and a Billion Dollars in Illegal Foreign Bribes and Campaign Contributions!! May OUR GOD SAVE AMERICA!!!


39 posted on 08/06/2011 3:44:58 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: DMZFrank

Shet!!! A Drone should have taken out these Perverts and Dirtbags!! except Obama HUSSEIN is one of them and is protecting them!!! Obama HUSSEIN hates Christians and Americans and Freedom and Capitalism!! Obama HUSSEIN dispises and HATES AMERICA!!


40 posted on 08/06/2011 3:49:22 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: anymouse

Shades of the Carter Iran rescue fiasco.

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Shades of Uriah the Hittite.


41 posted on 08/06/2011 3:57:29 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: John334

His campaign was filled with Muslim Brotherhood types in 2008.

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Oh. You mean like Huma Abedin-Weiner in the State Department as Hillary’s lil’ helper?


42 posted on 08/06/2011 3:59:54 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: truthandlife

I am very surprised Seal Team 6 would be a QRF. As good as they are on the ground, they don’t have the firepower Marines or Airborne troops have.


43 posted on 08/06/2011 4:00:06 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: gaijin
My fire-team is part of a [quick reaction unit] made up of commando's from all branches of the service, including British SAS.

We were monitoring, but, never got the call. Word is, this was a snatch operation, and the operations commander underestimated the strength of the enemy and was trying to cover his ass when the reinforcements were called in.

God help us all, when your ass is in this deep, you call in heavy gunships, i.e. specter's, etc. to support the men on the ground!

This mission does not pas the smell test with my unit!

82nd ABN 1/508th BN

44 posted on 08/06/2011 4:00:40 PM PDT by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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To: True Republican Patriot

Ditto’s

When I woke up this morning and read the drudge headlines I got physically sick to my stomach that our “Hip-Hop” POS POTUS threw his Muslim comrades a bone for Ramadan. Namely, our brave Sp Opts warriors. I wish I could exact my outrage on him personally.


45 posted on 08/06/2011 4:06:26 PM PDT by Kahuna
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To: DMZFrank; gaijin
Why are highly trained scarce and valuable specialists like SEALS being used for a mission like this that would be more appropriate for Rangers or airmobile infantry?

Spot on. I posted before I read both of yours. A Tier 1 asset doesn't get used for this; even if it was one of their own. This was a Ranger, Marine, or 101/82nd-type of mission.

I did 3 tours in MEUSOC, and this was one of our bread and butter missions.

46 posted on 08/06/2011 4:08:44 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: paratrooper82

Do you think that the “snatch op” was a set-up?

God Bless you for your valiant service.


47 posted on 08/06/2011 4:12:47 PM PDT by Kahuna
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To: truthandlife
sealteam6
48 posted on 08/06/2011 4:13:43 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: truthandlife
rescue another team of military personnel pinned down by insurgents

Why oh why oh why oh why do we keep doing that? When we put our solidiers in a position, it ought to be a death trap for those who would attack them. If we cannot secure our own people then don't put them there. When we put our soldires somewhere they should be able to call in fire support and not have to rely on Seal Team 6. It is all so like the beach scene in Apocolypse Now. Except even they called in napalm to bring about some peace and quiet.

49 posted on 08/06/2011 4:15:43 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: DMZFrank

I would bet those dead men would be the first to bitch slap you. What a dumb statement.


50 posted on 08/06/2011 4:21:30 PM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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