Skip to comments.U.S. official: Killed forces were on Afghanistan rescue mission
Posted on 08/06/2011 2:31:09 PM PDT by truthandlife
Twenty-five U.S. special forces killed early Saturday in Afghanistan were on a mission to rescue another team of military personnel pinned down by insurgents, a U.S. military official told CNN.
The helicopter that went down in eastern Afghanistan carried 30 U.S. military members, including 22 Navy SEALs and three other special forces. They were part of a "quick reaction force" sent in to pick up others engaged in a fierce firefight, the official said.
In the single deadliest incident since the start of the decade-long Afghan war, the Army Chinook carrying a team of U.S. special forces and U.S. and Afghan soldiers went down in Wardak province.
Insurgents are believed to have shot down the helicopter, a military official said.
The majority of the Navy SEALs who died belonged to the same covert unit that conducted the raid that killed Osama bin Laden in May, though they were not the same men, the official said.
"It's a big loss" for the SEALs, one of the officials said. "The numbers are high."
(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...
Shades of Operation Red Wing (Seal Team 1) all over again. Not good.
What a tragedy. And what makes it even more tragic is that this is Vietnam Part II. As soon as we pull out, the bad guys will take over the country, just like they did in ‘Nam. A corrupt government, with an incompetent military, will not win against political (or in the case of Afghanistan) religious, fanatics.
I am wondering if this was the handiwork of the Iranian Republican Guard? If so it is long overdue to go after them and hunt them down anywhere they can be found.
Will we ever know what became of the personnel they were trying to rescue? This just got even more horrible, if possible.
It’s about time our side pulled off a big “oops...sorry ‘bout that” sort of thing.
Seal Team 6 - this wh gave them up. Just like guns to mexico and south america and drugs in to usa.
The comments made on the CNN page are disgusting.
I notice the tolerant left continue to refer to us as a bunch of homosexuals. (Teabaggers). I guess that’s about as low as they can go.
Whoops! Read the ping and got this on the wrong thread. Disregard.
Why are highly trained scarce and valuable specialists like SEALS being used for a mission like this that would be more appropriate for Rangers or airmobile infantry? If no one else was available than I would understand. Nonethelesw it would seem that you should save these guys for tasks that are appropriate for their unique skill level.
I bet the enemy have been after them ever since their own Benedict Arnold president blew their cover and outed them ...
Who was the brainiac officer who put such a large group of elite troops on one helicopter?
Shades of the Carter Iran rescue fiasco.
I thought SEALs traveled in smaller units to avoid this very scenario?
A helicopter full of SEALs would be too much for a martyr to resist.
All they'd need is a single grenade.
I think I'll hold out for more information to become available, if it ever does.
this was a setup from the word go. Put out some bad intel about HVT’s, knowing that the US military is going to send some ‘high speed unit’. If ST6 was on a rescue mission, then they were rescuing other members of their unit or another SPECOP’s unit. The bad guys, now being very well informed of the TTP’s, of our elite military units, were waiting on them.
Of course, if the moron-in-chief, had to let the world know who did it and how. Stating I and My, over and over again, to prove that he is in charge. The whole while, letting the world know how these operators do their job. Well, no more. For a little publicity and some rating in the polls, the secret is out and the bad guys have been paying attention.
God bless those men and their families.
No kidding! Damn...too many eggs in one basket!
This is very sad - all loss of life by our guys is sad, but this one is bad because it just seems preventable.
Why were they all together? How trustworthy were those Afghanis? (Personally, I don’t think any of them seem very trustworthy.)
This is all very depressing. Many people on other threads were speculating that it was Obama’s Ramadan gift to the Taliban, but I don’t think he’s smart enough to carry off something like that. But I doubt that he’s very sad that it happened.
I think sadly you are correct...
What, there wasn’t enough fuel to put the men on more than one?
Will Obama rethink is Afghanistan drawdown which his commanders said was not recommended?
SEALS for a routine QRF mission? That is a total lie.
That would be rangers, marines —whatever.
SEALS are a high-priority direct action outfit.
We’re reading a cover-story, here.
I hope that you are right. Hard for me to believe that we would integrate Afghan’s with SEAL teams.
this is not unusual to have that many men on one aircraft, you can fit 50 Marines on a CH-53
Obama HUSSEIN’S Rules of Engagement Drastically Favor His Brothers, The MUSLIM RADICAL TERRORISTS!!
Something seems odd about this.
Can’t imagine Afghan soldiers EVER opperating with a SEAL team. If so something is seriously fubared here.
A very difficult pill to swallow.
Prayers for these brave men.
The Best of The Best!
Interesting to review that. ROEs and comm equipment failures led to the deaths of a lot of good men. Cell phones work reliably even in Holestan but we can't give the best trained fighters in the world a good satphone to talk to the Ops Commander. Funny, isn't it. I mean if iPhone's don't work Apple stock takes a nosedive and if they don't fix it they are out of business. But a defense contract where lives are at stake just goes on and on and on, an Energizer Bunny laying golden eggs.
I think another question about strategy is in order, which is, does this really work, is it really worth it? I fully understand decapitating the enemy by taking out HVTs, and using active measures of disruption, but when we are talking about SEAL TEAM 6 kinds of guys, this is really really expensive, and really really expensive when you lose 20 of them on a rescue op. There are alternatives using 500lb laser guided bombs or laying down cluster bombs on a bunch of guys pinning down a position (way where is tac air in all of this?). Of course there is more collateral damage, but if you cannot take the collateral damage, and I will concede that we might not be able to, then maybe you just decide you should not fight the damned war in the first place.
They wouldn’t or the SEALs would not have it. After 2008 there are *many* Major Hassan’s in the govt now. His campaign was filled with Muslim Brotherhood types in 2008.
The death of Bin Laden by Seal Team 6? Bin Laden gets buried at sea. Shortly afterwards Seal Team 6 dies together in a crash, the day after the debt rating is lowered. Yeah sure.
The US military are sheep to the slaughter by our islamic govt. Where are all the LTC Lakin haters that used to post here?
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here is more insight fromt The longwar Journal
This was a set up. I am amazed how naive some people are. See Major Hassan. The American govt and US Military plus intel have lots of Major Hassan’s now. See financial downgrade yesterday. Setting up total internal destruction.
Has the imperial federal government ordered our flag to half mast yet? I did mine in the front yard, whether they do or not, I will honor those men. I went up to the church and lowered the 3 flags up there also.
During Vietnam, the rule makers decided that our aircraft could not engage Soviet ships in Haiphong harbor that were delivering weapons and ammunition to the North Vietnamese communists. We lost a lot of planes and pilots to antiaircraft fire coming up from the laughing and grinning Soviet knuckledraggers aboard those ships.
This was my thought too. It's sickening to even consider such a thing, but we do and with just cause.
I smell a RAT!!!!
When You have a Muslim Terrorist in the Closet acting as Our Alleged “Commander-In-Chief” and he Hates AMERICA, there are going to be alot of Great American Patriots Killed because of HIS REAL AGENDA!! Obama is 10-to One Trillion Times more dangerous than Bin Ladin, Mao, Putin,
Chavez and thousands more because Obama conned the American Morons and got himself into the Oval Office thru Corruption and Decay and a Billion Dollars in Illegal Foreign Bribes and Campaign Contributions!! May OUR GOD SAVE AMERICA!!!
Shet!!! A Drone should have taken out these Perverts and Dirtbags!! except Obama HUSSEIN is one of them and is protecting them!!! Obama HUSSEIN hates Christians and Americans and Freedom and Capitalism!! Obama HUSSEIN dispises and HATES AMERICA!!
Shades of the Carter Iran rescue fiasco.
Shades of Uriah the Hittite.
His campaign was filled with Muslim Brotherhood types in 2008.
Oh. You mean like Huma Abedin-Weiner in the State Department as Hillary’s lil’ helper?
I am very surprised Seal Team 6 would be a QRF. As good as they are on the ground, they don’t have the firepower Marines or Airborne troops have.
We were monitoring, but, never got the call. Word is, this was a snatch operation, and the operations commander underestimated the strength of the enemy and was trying to cover his ass when the reinforcements were called in.
God help us all, when your ass is in this deep, you call in heavy gunships, i.e. specter's, etc. to support the men on the ground!
This mission does not pas the smell test with my unit!
82nd ABN 1/508th BN
When I woke up this morning and read the drudge headlines I got physically sick to my stomach that our “Hip-Hop” POS POTUS threw his Muslim comrades a bone for Ramadan. Namely, our brave Sp Opts warriors. I wish I could exact my outrage on him personally.
Spot on. I posted before I read both of yours. A Tier 1 asset doesn't get used for this; even if it was one of their own. This was a Ranger, Marine, or 101/82nd-type of mission.
I did 3 tours in MEUSOC, and this was one of our bread and butter missions.
Do you think that the “snatch op” was a set-up?
God Bless you for your valiant service.
Why oh why oh why oh why do we keep doing that? When we put our solidiers in a position, it ought to be a death trap for those who would attack them. If we cannot secure our own people then don't put them there. When we put our soldires somewhere they should be able to call in fire support and not have to rely on Seal Team 6. It is all so like the beach scene in Apocolypse Now. Except even they called in napalm to bring about some peace and quiet.
I would bet those dead men would be the first to bitch slap you. What a dumb statement.
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