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Fox News Poll: Romney Remains Top GOP Preference as Perry Draws Close Behind
FoxNews ^ | June 29, 2011 | Dana Blanton

Posted on 06/30/2011 5:57:27 AM PDT by Clairity

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To: meadsjn
The TTC scam, all by itself, is a bigger albatross for Perry than the ObamneyCare is for Romney.

A transit infrastructure overreach does not reach the level of state mandated health care. Not even close.

Not to mention that RomneyCare is law, and the TTC is not.

61 posted on 06/30/2011 7:50:19 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: jagusafr

“So how come he’s always referred to as “the frontrunner”?”

Simple. The obama media whores intend to make it so.


62 posted on 06/30/2011 7:58:08 AM PDT by jivin gene (Breakin' up is hard to do)
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To: Clairity

Only if we let them

We need to reverse this “Romney is Leading GOP” spin the media is pushing

Here is a better title for this article

“ROMNEY DOWN 10% SINCE LAST WEEK. BACHMAN SURGES”


63 posted on 06/30/2011 8:03:59 AM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: cripplecreek

I am sick of ALL of them (including Bachman) when they say “I will ‘fight for yoo’”

The next debate just have any who will NOT ‘fight for me’ raise their hand.. and we can skip all the platitudes

The only one who DOES NOT talk this way is Palin and I wish she would get in already

Palin/Bachman is going to be an unbeatable ticket


64 posted on 06/30/2011 8:09:53 AM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: Mr. K

With no candidate above 20% and with non-candidates getting over a third of the poll votes, its really meaningless.

OTOH, the GOP nominee will be someone who got under 20%.

And btw not all the others are more conservative than Romney - Huntsman, Rudy, Christie, etc.


65 posted on 06/30/2011 8:11:01 AM PDT by WOSG (Herman Cain for President)
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To: LS

Folks, listen to the history teacher!!!

3rd parties go nowhere.


66 posted on 06/30/2011 8:19:20 AM PDT by WOSG (Herman Cain for President)
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To: Clairity
I agree. Listening to a Texan Mark Davis on Rush's show this week convinced me that Perry is our best hope to defeat Romney if Sarah doesn't run. Obama must be defeated at all costs and Romney would turn off so many conservatives that it will make that very difficult.

BTW, those of you saying that we need to abandon the Republican party might as well vote for Obama because, at this time in our history, we only have two parties that are capable of winning a presidential election. Voting third party gives Obama a second term!

67 posted on 06/30/2011 8:31:41 AM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing;therefore choose life..")
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To: normy

Right now no one generating any excitement-—it’s all STOP OBAMA, which is why it’s the MESSAGE, not the MESSENGER this time around. Elmer Fudd will beat Obama if the election is about Obama, not about some grandiose scheme of saving the Union. I do think you have to run on sound fiscal policy, debt elimination (not reduction), strong foreign policy-—but limited in scope, and cutting back the environmental whackos. But make the election about Obama and you’ll win.


68 posted on 06/30/2011 8:53:05 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: Clairity

I was under the assumption that he was a RINO because I had heard some negative things about him. I know, I should do the research before opening my mouth.

It is good to hear that he is pro life though. Can you fill me in on some info about him?


69 posted on 06/30/2011 9:36:50 AM PDT by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: Clairity
>> Perry is not a RINO he is pro-llife and fiscally conservative, anti-tax, anti-regulation.

Romney is also running on a platform being "pro-life and fiscally conservative, anti-tax, anti-regulation". Of course, his track record doesn't match that rhetoric, and neither does Perry's. For example, "anti-tax" Perry raised cigarette taxes and enacted more toll taxes after being re-elected on a "no new taxes" pledge.

>> There is night and day difference between Romney and Perry. <<

Of course! Perry has a Texas twang and Romney doesn't. Clearly that makes Perry 10X better.

70 posted on 06/30/2011 9:55:58 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk
It is good to hear that he is pro life though. Can you fill me in on some info about him?

Here is an “In Forum” search for freeper Cincinatus’ Wife.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:cincinatuswife/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change

She has done a wonderful job of compiling articles about Perry, and about his views on important subjects. There are significant differences between Romney and Perry.

71 posted on 06/30/2011 10:08:11 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: jagusafr

I was thining that too..

Who in the GOP is behind Romney? Why is the GOP national party so committed to him over anyone else?

The only I can actually SEE pushing and supporting him is the left-wing media


72 posted on 06/30/2011 10:24:23 AM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: jagusafr

I was thinking that too..

Who in the GOP is behind Romney? Why is the GOP national party so committed to him over anyone else?

The only I can actually SEE pushing and supporting him is the left-wing media


73 posted on 06/30/2011 10:24:31 AM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: Clairity

Perry is this year’s Huckabee. He’ll siphon off just enough support in key states to keep Palin or Bachmann from getting the nomination. Completely unelectable in nation-wide primaries. He will insure Mitt at the top of the 2012 ticket.


74 posted on 06/30/2011 10:48:25 AM PDT by CowboyJay
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To: Texas Fossil

John McCain won the nomination last time...so no, the media isn’t dreaming on Romney.


75 posted on 06/30/2011 10:58:56 AM PDT by Rick_Michael (Have no fear "President Government" is here)
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To: LS

Ask the Populists, ask the Progressives, ask the Liberty, ask the Know-Nothings, ask the Greens, ask the Reform, ask the Libertarians.”

Man, the poor ole’ Constitution Party doesn’t even rise to the level of an “ask the...”!!!


76 posted on 06/30/2011 11:58:07 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: LS
I agree, jobs, jobs, jobs, put our guys stats against Obama’s. This is a golden opportunity to not go personality vs. personality.
77 posted on 06/30/2011 12:09:23 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: CowboyJay

Perry is this year’s Huckabee. He’ll siphon off just enough support in key states to keep Palin or Bachmann from getting the nomination. Completely unelectable in nation-wide primaries. He will insure Mitt at the top of the 2012 ticket.”

You know, that “COULD” happen, for sure. But the problem on the right is that neither Bachmann nor Palin have as of yet created a deep and wide enough following which makes them seen as the conservative alternative who can win the general. Yes, they have strong followings (I like them both also...I’m not criticizing them, I am merely analyzing), but let’s face it, the reality is that AT THIS time, their appeal is on the right, not the oh-so-sophisticated independents.

Then there is that very large group on the right - not freepers of course but others on the right - that see electability as being a key issue for whom to vote in the primary. These concerns are real, precisely b/c the stakes are so high. All on the right, even the moderate right, agree that above all else Obama must go. So that creates a certain amount of desperation. “We have to have a candidate who can win” so the argument goes. (Again, freepers aren’t really part of that conversation, as there is such a strong presence here of wanting ideological purity...which is fine...we need that, also...again, just analyzing. The group of somewhat pragmatic conservatives is in my experience, very large).

Which brings us back to Perry.

It seems that he is trying to occupy this ground: conservative enough to win the GOP primary, and appealing enough to indys to win.

And what he is trying to do is show that Romney is not conservative enough for the GOP, even if he can win; while showing that Palin and Bachmann are conservative enough, but can’t win.

And so far Perry is having some success in that.

It ‘seems’ like he could be conservative enough to be the alternative to Romney on the right, but able to win.

So, it is either THAT...or....you are right. He is this year’s Huckabee, and can’t win, but is just the final straw for Romney’s back breaking victory in the GOP primary......

All in all, I think Perry can do it. And I’ll vote for him in the primary, unless Palin or Bachmann are still around when I get to vote in the primary (which is doubtful...none one is ever around when I get to vote).


78 posted on 06/30/2011 12:12:25 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: ConservativeDude

Well, no. The others run (or ran) candidates in national elections who were at least recognized in the debates. The Populists won a few seats; the Progressives helped elect Wilson.


79 posted on 06/30/2011 12:13:44 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: ConservativeDude

Sorry, but Perry’s problem in the general elections would be exactly the same as his problems in the primaries.

He’s not conservative enough to excite the base, and he’s not going to be terribly popular with independents outside the South and lower Midwest.

As unpopular as Obama is nationally, he’s still more popular than Bush. With Perry on the ticket, 2012 will turn into another referendum on Dubya (and the GOP will lose).

In terms of election strategery, Bachmann has by far the easiest path of announced GOP candidates. You’ll notice there were no mumblings of Perry running before Bachmann started getting traction. Now the MSM is baiting him to run.

I will not under any circumstances cast a vote for Perry or Romney. Perry is a pro-life democrat, whereas Mitt is a hard line fascist. Fiscal discipline is not in either of their DNA.

Come 2013, we’ll have GOP majorities in both houses, and Obama will be fairly easy to check as Clinton was when he had to govern as a minority party president.

No need to risk further damaging the GOP brand with another RiNO at the helm.


80 posted on 06/30/2011 12:43:20 PM PDT by CowboyJay
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