Skip to comments.Herman Cain, Sarah Palin tied for second in Iowa
Posted on 06/01/2011 10:03:47 AM PDT by Brookhaven
Herman Cains scrappy campaign for the GOP presidential nomination is making an impression. From Public Policy Polling of North Carolina:
Mitt Romney has the lead in PPPs first Iowa poll since Mike Huckabee and Donald Trump exited the race, but with six different candidates polling in double digits its clear this thing is wide open.
Romney polls at 21%. Sarah Palin and Herman Cain are tied for second at 15%. Newt Gingrich is 4th with 12%, Michele Bachmann 5th with 11%, Tim Pawlenty 6th with 10%, Ron Paul 7th with 8%, and Jon Huntsman 8th with 0% (only one respondent to the poll picked him.) 8% said they supported someone else or were undecided.
Cain and Palin have been the biggest beneficiaries in Iowa of Huckabee and Trumps decisions not to run. Cain is at 15% now despite not even having been included on our last poll. Palins gained 7 points in the six weeks since our last poll compared to 5 point gains for Romney, Pawlenty, and Bachmann, a 3 point gain for Gingrich, and a 2 point bump for Paul.
Cain still has incredibly low name reconition (not even in the same ballpark as Palin, for example), yet he still is managing to tie Palin in the number of supporters. Cain's pool of potential supporters (the people who currently recongize who Cain is) is much smaller than Palin's pool of potential supporters. If Cain was known by as many people that know Palin (had the same size potential suppoter pool), he would easily be in 1st place--way, way ahead of even Romney.
Herman Cain's biggest advantage over every other candidate is the more people get to know him, the more they like him--a lot.
That would make an interesting ticket!
I like Cain and continue to hope he progresses!
How much campaigning has Palin done in Iowa compared to Cain?
Cain is a burst of fresh air!
Your math skills stink.
Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama isn't!
Sarah Palin is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN
Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama isn't!
“How much campaigning has Palin done in Iowa compared to Cain?”
She has not done anything yet
Zero for Palin to this point.
I don’t know Cain’s campaign schedule.
Read to end of poll not the herman spin post.
Being President, or CEO, or, Chairman, or the like, is not a matter of being "smart", Bill Clinton is admittedly "smart," rather it is a matter of values.
Logical fallacy. It's possible that this is true, but the assertion relies on assumptions that may or may not be true, for example, any or all of the following may be true, and thus belie your assertion:
Not much experience in Iowa that I am aware of, however her One Nation bus tour is almost certainly on it’s way there now! Every day, that tour name, “One Nation,” grows on me. I can see that being a great campaign slogan to rally Americans behind. I also like that God is represented in it.
I know some folks here hate Gov. Christie, but could you imagine a Cain-Christie dream ticket. After all, you want an aggressive VP candidate and CC can be a pitbull. Cain-Rubio would be another interesting strategic pairing.
Her supporters say she's using an unconventional campaigning style, so they old questions like does she have an organizaition, is her organization active, or is she campaigning in a state don't apply.
Whatever the truth of what she's doing, I don't think her supporters can have it both ways. They can't blame bad numbers on the fact that she isn't campaigning in Iowa, and on the other hand say she's pursuing an alternative method of campaigning and thus out smarting everyone else.
BTW, I like Palin. People can go look up my old posts. I was thrilled when she was chosen as VP and I've been a supporter of hers. I just happen to think now that (1) Cain would be a better candidate, and (2) and the end of the day, she will decide against running (yea, it's a gut feeling and could be wrong, but I'm not going to stand still frozen in place waiting to find out an answer).
>>>How much campaigning has Palin done in Iowa compared to Cain?
Cain has been here more since the first of the year, Sarah not not at all... but she has a grassroots organization that the polls don’t seem to factor in.
Must have polled the Dems:
1. Mitt Romney polls at 21%
Forget NittWitt Mitt
Palin/Cain 2012 thru 2020.
Consistent Conservative Leadership.
It will take at least that long, followed by a West/Bachmann ticket in 2020 to clean this socialist mess up. ZerO & Pelousi didn’t do ALL this damage on their watch; ALL the administrations and congresses since Roosevelt contributed to it incrementally. It will take much longer than one or two presidential administrations to correct the situation and the paradigm.
May God resume blessing America...
“Public Policy Polling” is a Dem HACK outfit. FLUSH this one down the Toilet where it belongs.
“Again, I’m not discounting the possibly that Cain will gain more support as he gains exposure. Just pointing out that asserting that he will (or would) without considering other factors that might come into play by that time is an error in logic.”
What we do know is that this is a poll without Christie. So it seems clear to me that a significant number of those who support Christie support Romney as their number two.
Cristy (if he runs)
Their ideologies are very similar. I wish they would all sit down and talk to each other. Only one will be nominated as the Presidential candidate. They need to understand that as the field narrows to one candidate they must give open and full support to him or her. In the primary process it will be come evident fairly early who will win the nomination. They others must then band together in support of that candidate.
This is too damn important to let ego rule your actions.
My gut says she’s not “running” - rather, she’s just rallying the troops for 2012...and will then come out and endorse someone, likely Cain (who she has expressed admiration for) maybe Bachmann, or Perry if he runs (hope not).
At a family gathering on Memorial Day, I was talking with a 60-ish liberal cousin from Connecticut. I don't bother to have political conversations with him anymore, but I did mention that I'm supporting Herman Cain.
My cousin, a retired high school teacher from Connecticut, said: "You mean the Pizza Guy?"
So to the extent that people outside of the conservative movement have heard of Cain, that's about all they know so far.
But most people I talk to have never heard of him.
it’s doubtful he’ll draw a noticable number away from palin no matter how much popularity he gains. he might, however get some from gingrich and pawlenty- however, if either of them drop out i’d expect their votes to split pretty evenly between palin and cain, but either one going out should bump both up ahead of romney.
Herein lies a problem for conservatives. The Republican Party is split between the establishment and Tea Party. Romney gets a free ride with the establishment, but the Tea Party is slugging it out. Sarah, Michelle, Herman, Tim.... I hope when the time comes some of the hopefuls will step aside to support a champion. We need a pre-primary to determine who will run in the primary. Then again, I think when and if Sarah announces, the Romney campaign will get deflated.
there’s probably a couple cabinet positions he’d be good for, but i don’t much care for the idea of christie as VP.
I really like Cain, but am a little concerned about him having Stage 4 cancer in both his liver and colon back in 2006. Stage 4 is pretty hard to completely eradicate from your body. Someone please prove me wrong.
I don't know his schedule, but his campaign does have a full time operative managing Iowa.
This is a Democrat polling outfit, so the results, no matter what they are, are suspect.
Christie is on the wrong side of the illegal immigration and global warming issues.
God bless him for what he is doing in New Jersey, but a president cannot really address the US economic situation if he (she) doesn’t actively oppose the climate nazis and illegal immigration.
Personally, I think Christie on anybody’s ticket would be a huge disappointment.
Herman would be my first choice.
That opens to the door talking about his time as a mathematician for the Navy designing guidance systems for ballistic missles (rocket scientist), VP of corporate data systems for Pillsbury (computer guy), and chairman of KC Federal Reserve (banker).
I have an in law that is a local branch manager for a regional bank. When I mentioned Cain's time at the Fed, he suddenly got interested. When I explained Cain's entire background, his reply was "Wow, maybe I should give him a look."
If Cain get's tagged as the pizza guy, he'll be in trouble. If his entire life story gets out, he'll make it.
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I agree. But for the reasons you stated, I think that by the time the general election comes around, Cain's credentials will be pretty well known, assuming his team does a good job getting them out there.
And I think Republican primary voters will get the message long before the primaries are over.
Love Herman. Love Palin, love them all —
However, a meat loaf could be Obama after what we’ve got coming.
I say we bring on the debates and have this election early ...because we arenn’t going to make it until the fall of 2012.
Yes, he is. Now imagine...him and Lt.Col Allen West together. CAIN/WEST! Imagine the hoops the liberals will have to jump through to smear TWO black men. I see it as an exercise in futility. They can denigrate their policy stands, but the race card would be negated for the most part.
I've loved Sarah Palin since I first heard of her, and will vote for her if on the general election ballot, but she may have been damaged beyond repair from all the nonsense by the MSM. I'll await for the primary debates.
NO MORE PAIN? - GO CAIN!
HAD ENOUGH CHANGE? - GO CAIN!
RADICAL CHANGE CAUSED THE PAIN - THE ANSWER IS CAIN!
AMERICA'S BEST - CAIN & WEST!
US VALUES STILL THE BEST! - VOTE CAIN & WEST!
THE FF'S WOULD THINK SHAME - BUT NOT WITH CAIN!
CAIN, OR MORE SOCIALIST PAIN?
We just cannot screw this one up.this, something's wrong with your ears.
Or you can get raw with these strings. Either way, the violin is sweet yet lethal.
That's what I'm hoping for at the least. Get Romney out of our face!
You betcha! A real genuine leader! I’m so sick of wannabes. See my posts above.
Both your math, and your reading comprehension skills, need some SERIOUS work.
Appreciate your response but frankly Cain hasn’t got a hope in hell of winning the nomination. His response on right of return was utterly pathetic. Don’t waste your time and money. If she chooses not to run (unlikely) she won’t endorse Cain. Take it to the bank. Yea its just a gut feeling.
I found no fault with your observations.
I just think any poll that shows Romney in the lead is pure BS!
The Dems and RINOs are the only people who will vote for that phoney jerk.
If the Republican hierarchy were to force feed him on us, it will be the END of the Republican Party. There is no way under any circumstances that I will ever vote for that phoney.........
Allen West, oh hell yes. However, I think he can do us more good in the House of Representatives for the next two years. Somebody needs to give the Republicans some backbone in the house.
Allen West is a hell of man and and patriot.
You have a problem of looking up the entire poll results and reading them, I see.