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Herman Cain, Sarah Palin tied for second in Iowa
ajc ^ | 6-1-11 | j galloway

Posted on 06/01/2011 10:03:47 AM PDT by Brookhaven

Herman Cain’s scrappy campaign for the GOP presidential nomination is making an impression. From Public Policy Polling of North Carolina:

Mitt Romney has the lead in PPP’s first Iowa poll since Mike Huckabee and Donald Trump exited the race, but with six different candidates polling in double digits it’s clear this thing is wide open.

Romney polls at 21%. Sarah Palin and Herman Cain are tied for second at 15%. Newt Gingrich is 4th with 12%, Michele Bachmann 5th with 11%, Tim Pawlenty 6th with 10%, Ron Paul 7th with 8%, and Jon Huntsman 8th with 0% (only one respondent to the poll picked him.) 8% said they supported someone else or were undecided.

Cain and Palin have been the biggest beneficiaries in Iowa of Huckabee and Trump’s decisions not to run. Cain is at 15% now despite not even having been included on our last poll. Palin’s gained 7 points in the six weeks since our last poll compared to 5 point gains for Romney, Pawlenty, and Bachmann, a 3 point gain for Gingrich, and a 2 point bump for Paul.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cain; caincult; dailykos; fakepoll4romney; hermancain; moonbatpolling; palin; ppp; pppfauxpoll4mitt; rightofreturn; romneyfakepoll; romneyflacks; sarapalin; stalkinghorse
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Remember, two months ago nobody knew who Herman Cain was (and a lot of voters still don't). He's gone from zero to serious contender in record time.

Cain still has incredibly low name reconition (not even in the same ballpark as Palin, for example), yet he still is managing to tie Palin in the number of supporters. Cain's pool of potential supporters (the people who currently recongize who Cain is) is much smaller than Palin's pool of potential supporters. If Cain was known by as many people that know Palin (had the same size potential suppoter pool), he would easily be in 1st place--way, way ahead of even Romney.

Herman Cain's biggest advantage over every other candidate is the more people get to know him, the more they like him--a lot.


Nerds 4 Cain is in beta testing: www.nerds4cain.com

1 posted on 06/01/2011 10:03:50 AM PDT by Brookhaven
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To: Brookhaven

That would make an interesting ticket!


2 posted on 06/01/2011 10:05:19 AM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: Brookhaven

I like Cain and continue to hope he progresses!


3 posted on 06/01/2011 10:05:22 AM PDT by americanophile
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To: Brookhaven
What is really unbelievable is that pawlenty is the only one that comes close to beating Willard.
4 posted on 06/01/2011 10:09:34 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Brookhaven; onyx

How much campaigning has Palin done in Iowa compared to Cain?


5 posted on 06/01/2011 10:11:39 AM PDT by sarah fan UK
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To: Brookhaven
Cain may be the only true Conservative in the race. He speaks as a businessman who has experience in turning a business around and not as a bureaucrat or politician.

Cain is a burst of fresh air!

6 posted on 06/01/2011 10:11:39 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: org.whodat

Your math skills stink.


7 posted on 06/01/2011 10:12:41 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Brookhaven
Herman Cain is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama isn't!

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Sarah Palin is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama isn't!

55:11

8 posted on 06/01/2011 10:13:41 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: sarah fan UK

“How much campaigning has Palin done in Iowa compared to Cain?”

She has not done anything yet


9 posted on 06/01/2011 10:14:19 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (2008 was about words; 2012 will be about numbers)
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To: sarah fan UK

Zero for Palin to this point.

I don’t know Cain’s campaign schedule.


10 posted on 06/01/2011 10:14:31 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: txrangerette

Read to end of poll not the herman spin post.


11 posted on 06/01/2011 10:16:02 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Brookhaven

Go Herman!


12 posted on 06/01/2011 10:17:38 AM PDT by RockinRight (Herman Cain stopped for gas in South Carolina and inadvertently won a Primary debate.)
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To: Brookhaven
Given the stage, either Cain or Palin will show up the Media, and the DC elite, both Democrat and Republican Parties, as the ugly self-aggrandizing bigots they are.

Being President, or CEO, or, Chairman, or the like, is not a matter of being "smart", Bill Clinton is admittedly "smart," rather it is a matter of values.

13 posted on 06/01/2011 10:19:17 AM PDT by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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To: Brookhaven
If Cain was known by as many people that know Palin (had the same size potential suppoter pool), he would easily be in 1st place

Logical fallacy. It's possible that this is true, but the assertion relies on assumptions that may or may not be true, for example, any or all of the following may be true, and thus belie your assertion:

Again, I'm not discounting the possibly that Cain will gain more support as he gains exposure. Just pointing out that asserting that he will (or would) without considering other factors that might come into play by that time is an error in logic.
14 posted on 06/01/2011 10:19:24 AM PDT by kevkrom (Palin's detractors now resort to "nobody believes she can win because nobody believes she can win")
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To: sarah fan UK

Not much experience in Iowa that I am aware of, however her One Nation bus tour is almost certainly on it’s way there now! Every day, that tour name, “One Nation,” grows on me. I can see that being a great campaign slogan to rally Americans behind. I also like that God is represented in it.


15 posted on 06/01/2011 10:19:27 AM PDT by Oldyungun
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To: Brookhaven

I know some folks here hate Gov. Christie, but could you imagine a Cain-Christie dream ticket. After all, you want an aggressive VP candidate and CC can be a pitbull. Cain-Rubio would be another interesting strategic pairing.


16 posted on 06/01/2011 10:23:04 AM PDT by Choozer
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To: kevkrom

Excellent summary.


17 posted on 06/01/2011 10:24:18 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: sarah fan UK
How much campaigning has Palin done in Iowa compared to Cain?

Her supporters say she's using an unconventional campaigning style, so they old questions like does she have an organizaition, is her organization active, or is she campaigning in a state don't apply.

Whatever the truth of what she's doing, I don't think her supporters can have it both ways. They can't blame bad numbers on the fact that she isn't campaigning in Iowa, and on the other hand say she's pursuing an alternative method of campaigning and thus out smarting everyone else.

BTW, I like Palin. People can go look up my old posts. I was thrilled when she was chosen as VP and I've been a supporter of hers. I just happen to think now that (1) Cain would be a better candidate, and (2) and the end of the day, she will decide against running (yea, it's a gut feeling and could be wrong, but I'm not going to stand still frozen in place waiting to find out an answer).


Nerds 4 Cain is in beta testing: www.nerds4cain.com

18 posted on 06/01/2011 10:25:58 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Herman Cain knows math, computers, pizza, money, hamburgers, banking, and Coca-Cola)
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To: sarah fan UK

>>>How much campaigning has Palin done in Iowa compared to Cain?

Cain has been here more since the first of the year, Sarah not not at all... but she has a grassroots organization that the polls don’t seem to factor in.


19 posted on 06/01/2011 10:26:03 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: Brookhaven

PPP Poll

Pure BS

Must have polled the Dems:

1. Mitt Romney polls at 21%

Forget NittWitt Mitt


20 posted on 06/01/2011 10:28:53 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: TheBattman

Palin/Cain 2012 thru 2020.
Consistent Conservative Leadership.

It will take at least that long, followed by a West/Bachmann ticket in 2020 to clean this socialist mess up. ZerO & Pelousi didn’t do ALL this damage on their watch; ALL the administrations and congresses since Roosevelt contributed to it incrementally. It will take much longer than one or two presidential administrations to correct the situation and the paradigm.

May God resume blessing America...


21 posted on 06/01/2011 10:30:06 AM PDT by OriginalChristian (The end of America, as founded, began when the first Career Politician was elected...)
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To: Brookhaven

“Public Policy Polling” is a Dem HACK outfit. FLUSH this one down the Toilet where it belongs.


22 posted on 06/01/2011 10:30:17 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Texas Fossil

“Again, I’m not discounting the possibly that Cain will gain more support as he gains exposure. Just pointing out that asserting that he will (or would) without considering other factors that might come into play by that time is an error in logic.”

What we do know is that this is a poll without Christie. So it seems clear to me that a significant number of those who support Christie support Romney as their number two.


23 posted on 06/01/2011 10:32:09 AM PDT by BenKenobi
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To: Choozer
I would love to see a ticket that had any two of the following for President and VP.

Palin
Cain
Bachman
Cristy (if he runs)

Their ideologies are very similar. I wish they would all sit down and talk to each other. Only one will be nominated as the Presidential candidate. They need to understand that as the field narrows to one candidate they must give open and full support to him or her. In the primary process it will be come evident fairly early who will win the nomination. They others must then band together in support of that candidate.

This is too damn important to let ego rule your actions.

24 posted on 06/01/2011 10:32:23 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast: THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
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To: Brookhaven

My gut says she’s not “running” - rather, she’s just rallying the troops for 2012...and will then come out and endorse someone, likely Cain (who she has expressed admiration for) maybe Bachmann, or Perry if he runs (hope not).


25 posted on 06/01/2011 10:32:48 AM PDT by RockinRight (Herman Cain stopped for gas in South Carolina and inadvertently won a Primary debate.)
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To: Brookhaven
Cain still has incredibly low name recognition

At a family gathering on Memorial Day, I was talking with a 60-ish liberal cousin from Connecticut. I don't bother to have political conversations with him anymore, but I did mention that I'm supporting Herman Cain.

My cousin, a retired high school teacher from Connecticut, said: "You mean the Pizza Guy?"

So to the extent that people outside of the conservative movement have heard of Cain, that's about all they know so far.

But most people I talk to have never heard of him.

26 posted on 06/01/2011 10:33:13 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: kevkrom

it’s doubtful he’ll draw a noticable number away from palin no matter how much popularity he gains. he might, however get some from gingrich and pawlenty- however, if either of them drop out i’d expect their votes to split pretty evenly between palin and cain, but either one going out should bump both up ahead of romney.


27 posted on 06/01/2011 10:33:17 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: Brookhaven

Herein lies a problem for conservatives. The Republican Party is split between the establishment and Tea Party. Romney gets a free ride with the establishment, but the Tea Party is slugging it out. Sarah, Michelle, Herman, Tim.... I hope when the time comes some of the hopefuls will step aside to support a champion. We need a pre-primary to determine who will run in the primary. Then again, I think when and if Sarah announces, the Romney campaign will get deflated.


28 posted on 06/01/2011 10:34:12 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Choozer

there’s probably a couple cabinet positions he’d be good for, but i don’t much care for the idea of christie as VP.


29 posted on 06/01/2011 10:34:55 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: Brookhaven

I really like Cain, but am a little concerned about him having Stage 4 cancer in both his liver and colon back in 2006. Stage 4 is pretty hard to completely eradicate from your body. Someone please prove me wrong.


30 posted on 06/01/2011 10:34:55 AM PDT by mimi from mi
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To: txrangerette
I don’t know Cain’s campaign schedule.

I don't know his schedule, but his campaign does have a full time operative managing Iowa.

31 posted on 06/01/2011 10:35:02 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Brookhaven

This is a Democrat polling outfit, so the results, no matter what they are, are suspect.


32 posted on 06/01/2011 10:38:29 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Choozer

Christie is on the wrong side of the illegal immigration and global warming issues.

God bless him for what he is doing in New Jersey, but a president cannot really address the US economic situation if he (she) doesn’t actively oppose the climate nazis and illegal immigration.

Personally, I think Christie on anybody’s ticket would be a huge disappointment.


33 posted on 06/01/2011 10:41:35 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Brookhaven

Herman would be my first choice.


34 posted on 06/01/2011 10:44:39 AM PDT by from occupied ga
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To: Maceman
My reply to "you mean the pizza guy" is "yes, and the rocket scientist, the computer guy, and the banker."

That opens to the door talking about his time as a mathematician for the Navy designing guidance systems for ballistic missles (rocket scientist), VP of corporate data systems for Pillsbury (computer guy), and chairman of KC Federal Reserve (banker).

I have an in law that is a local branch manager for a regional bank. When I mentioned Cain's time at the Fed, he suddenly got interested. When I explained Cain's entire background, his reply was "Wow, maybe I should give him a look."

If Cain get's tagged as the pizza guy, he'll be in trouble. If his entire life story gets out, he'll make it.


Nerds 4 Cain is in beta testing: www.nerds4cain.com

35 posted on 06/01/2011 11:04:15 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Herman Cain knows math, computers, pizza, money, hamburgers, banking, and Coca-Cola)
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To: K-oneTexas; Tucker822; Kartographer; freekitty; carmody; Dead Corpse; MsLady; Publius772000; ...

PINGANATOR - Herman Cain articles 6/1/11 (AM)

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Who Will Board ‘The Herman Cain Train’?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2727975/posts

Cain Disses GOP Field as Career Politicians
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2727924/posts

Cain to do Vander Plaats lecture series
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2728140/posts

Herman Cain wins straw Townhall.com straw poll

https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/The-Townhallcom-Presidential-Straw-Poll/114013445328868?sk=app_190322544333196

Herman Cain, Sarah Palin tied for second in Iowa
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2728196/posts

Three Things I Love About Herman Cain’s Campaign
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2728189/posts


36 posted on 06/01/2011 11:08:21 AM PDT by justsaynomore ("I sure wouldn't have taken 16 hours to make that call - and jeopardize that mission" - Herman Cain)
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To: Brookhaven
If Cain get's tagged as the pizza guy, he'll be in trouble. If his entire life story gets out, he'll make it.

I agree. But for the reasons you stated, I think that by the time the general election comes around, Cain's credentials will be pretty well known, assuming his team does a good job getting them out there.

And I think Republican primary voters will get the message long before the primaries are over.

37 posted on 06/01/2011 11:18:29 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: cpdiii
You might want to add one more to your list.

”Future

38 posted on 06/01/2011 11:23:50 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: ASA Vet

Love Herman. Love Palin, love them all —

However, a meat loaf could be Obama after what we’ve got coming.

I say we bring on the debates and have this election early ...because we arenn’t going to make it until the fall of 2012.


39 posted on 06/01/2011 11:46:25 AM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: MBB1984
"Cain is a burst of fresh air!"

Yes, he is. Now imagine...him and Lt.Col Allen West together. CAIN/WEST! Imagine the hoops the liberals will have to jump through to smear TWO black men. I see it as an exercise in futility. They can denigrate their policy stands, but the race card would be negated for the most part.

I've loved Sarah Palin since I first heard of her, and will vote for her if on the general election ballot, but she may have been damaged beyond repair from all the nonsense by the MSM. I'll await for the primary debates.

Bumper stickers:
NO MORE PAIN? - GO CAIN!
HAD ENOUGH CHANGE? - GO CAIN!
RADICAL CHANGE CAUSED THE PAIN - THE ANSWER IS CAIN!
AMERICA'S BEST - CAIN & WEST!
US VALUES STILL THE BEST! - VOTE CAIN & WEST!
THE FF'S WOULD THINK SHAME - BUT NOT WITH CAIN!
CAIN, OR MORE SOCIALIST PAIN?

40 posted on 06/01/2011 12:06:51 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever)
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To: LibsRJerks
I like both Palin and Cain a LOT.

We just cannot screw this one up.


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41 posted on 06/01/2011 12:08:16 PM PDT by rdb3 (The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart.)
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To: absolootezer0
"however, if either of them drop out i’d expect their votes to split pretty evenly between palin and cain, but either one going out should bump both up ahead of romney."

That's what I'm hoping for at the least. Get Romney out of our face!

42 posted on 06/01/2011 12:11:49 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever)
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To: ASA Vet

You betcha! A real genuine leader! I’m so sick of wannabes. See my posts above.


43 posted on 06/01/2011 12:20:26 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever)
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To: org.whodat
Romney polls at 21%. Sarah Palin and Herman Cain are tied for second at 15%. Newt Gingrich is 4th with 12%, Michele Bachmann 5th with 11%, Tim Pawlenty 6th with 10%, Ron Paul 7th with 8%, and Jon Huntsman 8th with 0% (only one respondent to the poll picked him.) 8% said they supported someone else or were undecided.

Both your math, and your reading comprehension skills, need some SERIOUS work.

44 posted on 06/01/2011 1:17:08 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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To: Brookhaven; onyx

Appreciate your response but frankly Cain hasn’t got a hope in hell of winning the nomination. His response on right of return was utterly pathetic. Don’t waste your time and money. If she chooses not to run (unlikely) she won’t endorse Cain. Take it to the bank. Yea its just a gut feeling.


45 posted on 06/01/2011 2:44:19 PM PDT by sarah fan UK
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To: Brookhaven
ROMMMMMNNNNNNEY!


46 posted on 06/01/2011 2:44:48 PM PDT by bolobaby
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To: BenKenobi

I found no fault with your observations.

I just think any poll that shows Romney in the lead is pure BS!

The Dems and RINOs are the only people who will vote for that phoney jerk.

If the Republican hierarchy were to force feed him on us, it will be the END of the Republican Party. There is no way under any circumstances that I will ever vote for that phoney.........


47 posted on 06/01/2011 3:07:40 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Brookhaven
Romney has spent several gazillion dollars and this is the best he can do. Pathetic.

We need to keep him and several other establishment losers in the race long enough so that conservatives can coalesce around one person, though. If that's Palin or Cain or someone else, fine. But we need to do it soon.
48 posted on 06/01/2011 3:11:29 PM PDT by Antoninus (Fair warning to the GOP--nominate a RINO and I'm going 3rd party.)
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To: ASA Vet
You might want to add one more to your list.

Allen West, oh hell yes. However, I think he can do us more good in the House of Representatives for the next two years. Somebody needs to give the Republicans some backbone in the house.

Allen West is a hell of man and and patriot.

49 posted on 06/01/2011 3:52:26 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast: THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
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To: MNJohnnie

You have a problem of looking up the entire poll results and reading them, I see.


50 posted on 06/01/2011 4:15:08 PM PDT by org.whodat
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