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Hawaii official denounces 'ludicrous' birther claims
MSNBC ^ | 4/10/2011 | Michael Isikoff

Posted on 04/10/2011 12:11:58 PM PDT by jdoug666

The Hawaiian state health official who personally reviewed Barack Obama's original birth certificate has affirmed again that the document is "real" and denounced "conspiracy theorists" in the so-called "birther" movement for continuing to spread bogus claims about the issue.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birther; certifigate; chiyomefukino; naturalborncitizen; obama; trump
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"It's a Department of Health record and it can't be released to anybody," he said. Nor do state laws have any provision that authorizes such records to be photocopied, Wisch said. If Obama wanted to personally visit the state health department, he would be permitted to inspect his birth record, Wisch said.

THIS IS A LIE!!! What ever happened to the 'tangible interest' ruse to prevent release of Obama's vital records?!

1 posted on 04/10/2011 12:12:02 PM PDT by jdoug666
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To: jdoug666

Obama could end all this speculation by releasing the darn certificate.

The liberal line is that the “birthers” are crazy and full of it. Okay, then, Obama could prove everyone wrong in one fell swoop if he chose to do so. The humiliation would be a liberal dream come true. Obama can make that happen if he wants to, assuming that the documentation is there to be made public.


2 posted on 04/10/2011 12:15:48 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: jdoug666

So the Governor of Hawaii is a liar according to one of his officials?


3 posted on 04/10/2011 12:16:41 PM PDT by AU72
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To: jdoug666

Just publish the long form and end it now!


4 posted on 04/10/2011 12:17:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: jdoug666

Funny. The governor of the state, Neil Abercrombie, couldn’t find the birth certificate. Why didn’t this official show it to him?


5 posted on 04/10/2011 12:18:34 PM PDT by passionfruit (When illegals become legal, even they won't do the work Americans won't do)
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To: jdoug666

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?s=*Hawaii+official+denounces+%27ludicrous%27+birther+claims&ok=Search&q=quick&m=any&o=time&SX=4da202fbe485bcc370af60310e14845d401fa20c


6 posted on 04/10/2011 12:18:47 PM PDT by Perdogg (What Would Aqua Buddha do?)
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To: jdoug666

Put up or shut up.


7 posted on 04/10/2011 12:19:38 PM PDT by mojito
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To: jdoug666

Ludicrolicious.


8 posted on 04/10/2011 12:19:38 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: jdoug666

So put the Hawaiian state health official before Congress, and then have the official in a trial like Barry Bonds has had.


9 posted on 04/10/2011 12:20:29 PM PDT by Son House (Finally, People Lie, Because They Feel If They Tell The Truth, They Won't Get What They Want.)
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To: jdoug666

Any fool knows it is a sham upon the people of this country, of record proportion. Sounds like some people got paid HUGE amounts of money to play the game. Obama’s actions, along with his family’s own testimony prove the sham.

When Obama took office, one of the first executive orders he put upon us, was to lock up all his personal records such that the public could not have access to them. Then, subsequently spent MILLIONS on legal action to suppress efforts to get him to PROVE is legal qualification to be President. How stupid do these tyrants and criminals think at least half of this nation are?

And Washington ignores it. What does this say about the RULING CLASS in Washington??


10 posted on 04/10/2011 12:20:49 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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One simple phone call from President Obama to the Hawaii Department of Health would end it all, "I hereby request and authorize you to release immediately my LFBC, and any and all other documents or information regarding my birth that you may possess, and to release that information to the press and any other interested parties."

...crickets...

11 posted on 04/10/2011 12:24:15 PM PDT by JPG ("2012 Can't Come Soon Enough" - Sarah Palin)
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To: jdoug666

The only thing that I believe about government officials is that they are liars.

In fact, all they do is lie.


12 posted on 04/10/2011 12:24:28 PM PDT by chris37 (awesome!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Posting the long form would be great..but lets not forget natural born citizens are born to citizen parents.

“prosecutions to be instituted against all persons who shall within the cognizance of the courts of the United States, violate the Law of Nations” George Washington, April 22 1793

Law of Nations, Chapter XIX:

The natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens.


13 posted on 04/10/2011 12:24:48 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: jdoug666

Remember when the dems demanded George Bush’s pay records?

And they were all there, in original microfiche form, all of them?

Where are those people now? Where is daily KOS, Talking Points Memo, Michael Moore, Terry MacAuliffe, John Kerry, Chris Matthews?


14 posted on 04/10/2011 12:24:52 PM PDT by oldbill
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So we are supposed to accept the word of a party hack for the highest office in nation? Like Trump said, this could be the biggest scam ever in the history of country.
15 posted on 04/10/2011 12:24:53 PM PDT by Bridge_toofar (Forget all politicians, nominate Trump in 2012, he is nobody's pocket.)
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To: jdoug666
"But Wisch, the spokesman for the attorney general's office, said state law does not in fact permit the release of "vital records," including an original "record of live birth" — even to the individual whose birth it records. "

Hmmmmm. We've all seen copies of the "long form" from Hawaiian births right around the same date as Obama's posted -- here. Where did THEY come from???

SOMEBODY hit a nerve -- they're pulling out all the stops!


16 posted on 04/10/2011 12:25:08 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: jdoug666

I came across this interesting piece this morning relating to the “fake” we have as a Prez. It raises more questions than answers, but is food for thought:

http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2011/04/09/trump-is-right-obama-is-hiding-something-big/

Trump is Right, Obama is Hiding Something

Story originating from an anonymous email below. I have no idea how much of it is accurate but I know some is. I am putting it up as a possible motivator for anybody with time to investigate the matter

Incidentally, the 1950s picture here of Obama’s mother should remind us that his mother was no normal modest Midwestern girl of the times so his genetics are not the best either from his mother’s or his philandering father’s side. Snopes has done an unusually poor job (even for it) of saying the photo of Mrs Soetoro is in fact of someone else but have a look at the lady they think is in the photo. Most unconvincing. Genetics are a powerful determinant of behavior so, although scandalous, the suggestion about Obama’s sexuality below is not implausible

As an IRS tax examiner,one of many former federal jobs, I have seen what it appears Barry Soetoro has done, mostly by illegal aliens attempting to acquire a new identity in the U.S and/or criminals looking to acquire a new ID.

Barry, AKA Obama, was lawfully adopted by a foreign national, Lolo Soetoro, and Barry’s name was legally changed to “Barry Soetoro”. (Barry’s own admission) Barry Soetoro was also made an official legal Indonesian citizen. (again Barry’s own admission) The adoption would be noted in Barry’s vital statistics record in Hawaii on his original birth certificate…

OR Lolo Soetoro may have always been Barry’s legal birth farther. The public does not know for sure at this point who Barry’s father really was and Barry himself may not know.

Barry was raised as a Muslim in Indonesia and attended a Catholic funded school that permitted all faiths to attend.

Barry’s mother dropped him as a dependant for some reason, maybe even when Barry was adopted by Lolo Soetoro. His mother’s passport records dropped Barry as a dependent indicating Barry was no longer a legal dependent of his mothers. (The passport records of his mother have been produced showing Barry was no longer a dependent when Barry was permanently residing in Indonesia.) Barry went to Hawaii to live with his alleged grand parents after Lolo Soetoro and Barry’s mother divorced.

A “certificate of live birth” can have names changed on it including a child’s birth name, and birth parent’s names. Even a modified date of birth can be on a “certificate of live birth”. This occurs frequently for adopted children where the birth parent does not want the child to know who they are. The public has no idea who Barry’s real birth father is or who Barry’s real birth mother is. (Barry could have been adopted by his mother) The original birth certificate is the only legal vital statistics record of a person’s birth parents, birth location, birth date, etc… I can get a “certificate of live birth” for a dead person; I cannot get a birth certificate of a dead person without “Deceased” on it. (I’ve tried)

There is no evidence Barry Soetoro ever lawfully changed his name to “Barrack Hussein Obama”. There is no proof Barry Soetoro was born with the name “Barrack Hussein Obama”. I’m willing to bet the name “Barrack Hussein Obama” is not present on the real birth certificate as Barry’s birth name or as Barry’s birth father. I have pictures of me with my mother and Jimmy Buffet… that doesn’t make him my father even if I start using the name Jimmy Buffet.

The public knows Barry Soetoro finished high school in Hawaii as Barry Soetoro and attended Occidental as Barry Soetoro where he did drugs and flunked out of school. After dropping out of Occidental, Barry showed up in New York, homeless and on drugs. (Barry’s own admission) Barry then hooked up with a Pakistani to live with and traveled back to Indonesia on his new boyfriend’s dime to renew his Indonesian passport and traveled to Pakistan with him.

Ask any law enforcement officer in a large city or detective and they will tell you homeless young men on drugs in large cities usually end up as male prostitutes. Barry ended up as a world traveler with a degree… (Not likely)

Barry Soetoro returned to New York from Pakistan and began using the fictitious name “Obama” for some reason. (again Barry Soetoro’s own admission) One could only suspect that a person addicted to drugs returning from Pakistan to New York, the main route for Afghan heroin into the U.S., maybe Barry had a reason to start using a new name. There are literally over 1 million open warrants on file in New York… maybe Barry is one of them?….

After spending some time in New York allegedly working under the name “Obama”, It appears Barry used the fictitious name “Barrack Hussein Obama” for the first time to file his federal taxes in Connecticut at a Post Office Box for the purpose of evading paying taxes in New York and /or to establish a new identity. (This is a felony with no statute of limitation.)

When the IRS received Barry Soetoro’s federal tax filing, the IRS could not attach the name Barrack Hussein Obama to the SSI number provided or the address provided. So the IRS assigned the fictitious name “Barrack Hussein Obama” a tax ID number for a person from Connecticut (Where Barry unlawfully filed a federal tax form using a false name). Barry Soetoro began using the tax ID number as his SSI number when using the fictitious name Barrack Obama. This is why Barry Soetoro has a Connecticut SSI number. When I worked for the IRS, I saw this occur more than once and yes, it is a felony to knowingly file a fraudulent federal tax forms. Most of the politicians that cheat on their taxes claim it was an accident. That is how they get away with their tax cheat crimes. Using a fake name is no accident.

It appears Barry fled New York to Chicago using his new identity to get a job . He likely ordered a fake diploma to bolster his new identity as “Obama”. Fake Diploma’s were very big in the 80’s and diploma mills were even being used by federal workers to get promotions. There is evidence his alleged attendance at Columbia was faked (Barry never attended Columbia) and Barry lied his way into Harvard (he had no transcripts to get in)… Including telling the Saudi royal family he was fighting in Afghanistan with the Muslim Jihad against the Russians, so they would help him get into a law school.

The Saudi’s apparently loved Barry’s story of Jihad in Pakistan/Afghanistan and paid for Barry to attend Harvard under the name “Obama”. The Saudi family has admitted to paying for Obama to attend Harvard and gave Harvard a gift of $20 million dollars. Harvard in turn made their special attendy President of the law review a person that never wrote a single law review…. I guess that is what $20 million buys at Harvard.

It is unlikely Barry was a Jihadist and was most likely a drug mule if anything, maybe even a CIA street hire to haul Afghan heroin back to New York, so the Afghans could buy U.S. made stinger missiles with U.S. dollars to shoot down Russian helicopters?… I hired people over seas to do work below my pay grade all the time, even foreign nationals… I think this is the story Barry told the Saudi’s, but he was most likely really just a drug mule/dealer and probably still wanted on an outstanding warrant in New York.

Barry’s selective service registration is not normal either.

After I looked at Barry’s selective service filing I noticed it was most likely fraudulent too based on the name he used. Barry did not start using the name “Obama” until he returned from Pakistan (long after he flunked out of school in California) His selective service record (maintained in Chicago coincidentally) shows he registered at a Hawaiian post office as “Obama” in Sept 1980… Problem, Barry was getting high in California at Occidental in Sept 1980 (Barry’s own admission) and was not using the fictitious name “Obama” at that time. Barry began using the fictitious name “Obama” only after he returned from Pakistan. The selective service filing is fraudulent.

Barry returned to Chicago and attend a semi-christian radical black church with his first female love Michelle. Barry admits keeping in touch with Phil Boener, who traveled to New York from Occidental to be with Barry and was most likely Barry’s first love.

Barry still could not get a real job, because he was still a fraud, even with his Harvard degree in hand he could lie and take the Bar exam, but he could not work as a lawyer for a major law firm without a back ground investigation and he would never pass one. So, Michelle got Barry a job at her law firm. Barry never filed a case alone and never filed a motion. He wrote lost of memos according to the law firm where Barry worked. (I think they know Barry is a fraud and don’t want to be sued by previous clients) Barry rescinded his law licenses, so as not to be disbarred for fraud. The Bar knows Barry lied on his application. Michelle also had to turn over her law license for her involvement in corruption with the Chicago mayors office.


17 posted on 04/10/2011 12:25:35 PM PDT by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Obama can make that happen if he wants to, assuming that the documentation is there to be made public.

1- too far from the election.
2- not enough of the right wing to jump on board as birthers.

Remember Obama does not have to show a birth certificate. The media just has to lie and say one exists. That would be good enough for the useful idiots.


18 posted on 04/10/2011 12:25:55 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The MSM is the greatest threat to America.)
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To: jdoug666

wow, Trump’s really got ‘em soiling their raiments, doesn’t he?


19 posted on 04/10/2011 12:26:47 PM PDT by bigbob (u)
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To: jdoug666

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20 posted on 04/10/2011 12:27:59 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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