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Does it matter if Gaddafi wins?
washingtonpost.com ^ | March 14, 2011 | Marc A. Thiessen

Posted on 03/15/2011 3:15:55 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

If the Libyan dictator survives, he is not likely to resume being the benign Gaddafi of recent years, who handed over his weapons of mass destruction, renounced terrorism and made nice with the West. More likely, he will be the brutal Gaddafi of old — the state sponsor of terror who blew up Pan Am 103 over Scotland, killing 270 people; destroyed a French passenger jet over Niger, killing 171 people; bombed the La Belle discotheque in West Berlin, killing two U.S. soldiers and injuring more than 50 American servicemen; established terrorist training camps on Libyan soil; provided terrorists with arms and safe haven; and plotted to kill leaders in Saudi Arabia, Chad, Egypt, Sudan, Tunisia and Zaire. If he succeeds in putting down the rebellion, Gaddafi would probably emerge angry and emboldened — a dangerous combination.

If Gaddafi survives, he would almost certainly put a halt to the destruction of his programs to develop weapons of mass destruction, begun during the Bush administration....

If Gaddafi survives, his regime will probably not achieve a decisive victory. That means a stalemate in which eastern Libya could become a lawless, ungoverned area. Moderate rebel leaders — who pleaded to the West for help but failed to secure it — could be pushed aside by radical elements....

The United States helped the contras remove the Sandinista regime from Nicaragua and helped Afghans drive out the mighty Soviet Red Army, without sending ground forces. We can help the Libyan rebels drive Gaddafi out without sending the Marines to the shores of Tripoli.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: gaddafi; kaddafi; libya; noflyzone

1 posted on 03/15/2011 3:15:58 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Stay TFO of Libya, ETC,
-GyG
*****


2 posted on 03/15/2011 3:18:32 PM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

IF ???


3 posted on 03/15/2011 3:21:30 PM PDT by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Does it matter?

Only to the people and to the families he masacres I suppose. Oh, and probably to all the people who will be taken away in the middle of the night and tortured if he regains control. Other than that; no, probably doesn’t matter a bit.


4 posted on 03/15/2011 3:22:28 PM PDT by Obadiah (If you were going to shoot a mime, would you use a silencer?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Sounds like they're getting desperate. Doesn't he know that Kaddafi calls Obama his son?


5 posted on 03/15/2011 3:25:32 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Ideally, neither side will win for a very long time.

muslims killing muslims, so we don’t have to.


6 posted on 03/15/2011 3:25:32 PM PDT by brownsfan (D - swift death of the republic, R - lingering death for the republic.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

If the US were to have done anything meaningful in Libya, we should have done it weeks ago.

Premier Hussein is still voting “present” while Libyan resistance is systematically exterminated. It’s shameful to witness and is a stain on our Nation.

But by all means keep out of Libya, because the inmates are running the asylum, both in DC and in Tripoli, and they will only put our troops at risk.


7 posted on 03/15/2011 3:28:01 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Would this not make a muslim mad at us?

What happened to all the “Gates of Hell is going to open” talk?

8 posted on 03/15/2011 3:29:07 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Cicero

0 finally came out of hiding long enough to SAY Qaddafi had to go (but failed to show any leadership in making that happen).

Once again The One picks the wrong team.


9 posted on 03/15/2011 3:35:43 PM PDT by Optimist
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To: Tailgunner Joe
If Gaddafi survives, he would almost certainly put a halt to the destruction of his programs to develop weapons of mass destruction, begun during the Bush administration....

I disagree, his successor will most likely resurrect those programs.........Gaddafi was properly slapped down and knew his place. Should he survive this uprising, he'll still know his place and life will continue on.........

So for those folks hoping for the overthrow of Gaddafi, be careful of what you wish for......... Libya is what it is and in the grand scheme of things, nobody gives a rat's ass about Libya's human rights violations just so long as they do not pose a threat to this country.........

10 posted on 03/15/2011 3:41:17 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Oh Magoo, you've done it again.....)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
This is hilarious. The MSM is practically egging on 0bama to intervene in Libya the same way it yelled at Bush to NOT intervene in Iraq.

Guess this proves the first rule of war in the USA according to the MSM: War is only "cool" when a Democrat starts or continues it. Prime examples include interventions in Bosnia, Kosovo, Somalia, and now, Libya.

11 posted on 03/15/2011 3:42:27 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Cicero

Exactly, the corrupt MSM is covering for Obama.

Sure! Nothing matters. The earthquake in Japan doesn’t even REALLY matter. Not to 18-hole, Barak “Shooter” Obama!

So what if Obama is totally disengaged and the whole world is falling apart. Nothing he can do. So it just doesn’t matter. Ha, ha nothing matters!


12 posted on 03/15/2011 3:45:00 PM PDT by Obadiah (If you were going to shoot a mime, would you use a silencer?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Radical muslims killing other radical muslims, what’s the down side for us?


13 posted on 03/15/2011 3:48:40 PM PDT by stockpirate (Underemployment, surged in February to 19.9%)
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To: Cicero

Is he the one who has Bambi’s BC?


14 posted on 03/15/2011 4:01:27 PM PDT by 353FMG (Liberalism = Communism under the guise of compassion.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Sounds like the Washington Compost is trying to provide a safety valve for Obama when the Libyan rebellion is squashed without an ounce of help from the U.S.
15 posted on 03/15/2011 4:21:13 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Bean Counter
If the US were to have done anything meaningful in Libya, we should have done it weeks ago

Exactly! I feel our troops would be more at risk now than they would have been weeks ago. And even then there was risk.

Perhaps, Obama knows this and knows it's too late to do anything that could topple his fundraiser in North Africa. Maybe he's feeling more relieved now.

16 posted on 03/15/2011 4:25:12 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Hot Tabasco
Gaddafi was properly slapped down and knew his place. Should he survive this uprising, he'll still know his place and life will continue on.........

So for those folks hoping for the overthrow of Gaddafi, be careful of what you wish for

You are correct! Also Libya was one of those "unnamed" countries in the War On Terror. having been a victim of Al Qaeda himself, Gadaffi has had good reason to join and assist the US in the War against Al Qaeda. They've tried to kill him several times.

No, Gadaffi is not a model of democracy and freedom. Very far from it. But worst people and entities could be in control there. I did disagree with his status in the UN. That was a joke.

17 posted on 03/15/2011 4:33:00 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I don’t care who rules any Arab animals.


18 posted on 03/15/2011 5:50:19 PM PDT by montag813 (http://www.facebook.com/StandWithArizona)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Thanks Tailgunner Joe.
[Marc A. Thiessen, WaPo] ...The United States helped the contras remove the Sandinista regime from Nicaragua and helped Afghans drive out the mighty Soviet Red Army, without sending ground forces. We can help the Libyan rebels drive Gaddafi out without sending the Marines to the shores of Tripoli.
Marc A. Thiessen (GWB speechwriter):
Google

19 posted on 03/16/2011 6:50:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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