Editorial, 3/7: 'Birther' bill is fringe of the fringe

The Journal Star ^ | Sunday, March 6, 2011 11:59 PM | Not Listed

[devattel]

The "birthers" who insist that President Barack Obama does not meet the citizenship requirement to be president represent a fringe of public opinion.

Then there are some whose views represent only a fringe of the fringe.

That's where the bill proposed by Sen. Mark Christensen of Imperial comes from.

The charge that Obama failed to meet the requirement that the president be a "natural born citizen" of our great country was dismissed as invalid long ago.

The director of the Hawaiian state agency that handles birth certificates issued the following statement: "I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawai'i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai'i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai'i and is a natural-born American citizen."

Various attempts to challenge Obama's citizenship have failed in court. The U.S. Supreme Court on several occasions has let stand lower court rulings that Obama met the requirement in the U.S. Constitution that the president be a "natural born citizen."

Yet the "birthers" keep the myth alive.

[devattel]

I do not understand why asking a candidate for information on their parents would be a problem considering he or she would have to prove their citizenship to ensure Natural Born Citizenship.

[Frantzie]

The Newsmedia and TV all support him and the courts including SCOTUS are totally corrupt.

[ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY]

“The charge that Obama failed to meet the requirement that the president be a “natural born citizen” of our great country was dismissed as invalid long ago.”

Dismissed by whom???

[Izzy Dunne]

who insist that President Barack Obama does not meet the citizenship requirement

Don't know if you want to call me a "birther" or not, but I, and a lot of other people "insist" NO SUCH THING.

I say that he has not presented sufficient evidence to document his eligibility.

[swain_forkbeard]

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawai’i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai’i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai’i and is a natural-born American citizen.”

Then why can’t the governor find it?

[NurdlyPeon]

Simple answer: show us the long form. Simple question: why has he not done so. Dance around those, boys.

[SpaceBar]

Yup. Obama is the only person in the United States who has not provided full documentation of his eligibility to hold a job in the affirmative, and asserts that others must somehow prove the contrary.

[MichaelCorleone]

If a ‘fringe’ group insisted the earth was flat and kept pounding the drum on a daily basis, some group (like NASA) would simply supply a photograph from space that proved the earth is not flat.

A BC is a simple document that every American can easily produce to prove their age, place of birth, and parents.

It’s quite reasonable to question his birthplace since not only has the BC not been secured, but he’s spent millions to stop the truth from coming out.

[FrankR]

They can try and pile the "birthers" into a padded room if they want, but there is NOTHING wrong with making this guy produce his birth certificate. It would put all this to rest once and for all.

Now, he either likes the controversy for the attention it makes, or, he's a foreign-born kenyan and a fraud president.

I think every mom in the united states should refuse to produce her childs birth certificate when they start to school, and all other activities that require showing a BC.

Barack Obama - or whatever his friggin name is - is nothing but a street hustler taking us all for a ride to ruin.

[ctyankee00]

Again, it’s never been about *where* he was born, although the Ministry of Distraction has done a good job of focusing on that. His mother was an American citizen and his father was a British citizen.

These folks don’t play by ‘the rules’.

[devolve]

"His mother was young - and single....."


- Michelle Robinson Obama

[capydick]

“The charge that Obama failed to meet the requirement that the president be a “natural born citizen” of our great country was dismissed as invalid long ago.”

Dismissed by whom???

By the same people who have decreed that Global Warming is settled science.

There's a group who makes these decisions for us - you and I can't join them.

[missnry]

[devattel]

Dismissed by whom???

By the Democratic Party, of course. After all, they are a government entity that is clearly cited as the fourth branch of government by our framing fathers. The Republic Party is the fifth, followed by the Unions as the sixth...

[Responsibility2nd]

Are you going to pull this thread too?

The previous thread (same article) was up for hours. With nearly 200 replies.

Then you pulled it. Why? What gives??

[MrEdd]

In 2002 I began telling people that there were more houses and strip malls than there were families and retailers to go in them and.that real estate was going to crash hard and not.get back up soon.

I was disparaged here and many places.
This was considered a “fringe” assessment.

Similarly, during Desert Storm I made the observation that the wide scale deployment of fuel air explosives was a bad idea because it showed every tin pot dictator and tyrant wannabe how much damage you could do with a whole lot of jet fuel. Military people in the unit agreed but my civilian friends thought this was a “fringe” assessment. They got phone calls on 9/11 and I did gloat a bit.

I am comfortable with my positions “fringe” or not.

[so_real]

I think the article is loaded with liberal wishful thinking. I would say the majority of Americans still cherish the Constitution. They may claim that we who defend the Constitution as is, are the "fringe of the fringe", but I don't buy it.

[potlatch]

Old news
new freeper
Neil Abercrombie couldn't produce it
Besides - it's about citizenry, not necessarily ‘where’.

[potlatch]

citizenship