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Hawaii official now swears: No Obama birth certificate
WorldNetDaily ^ | 1/24/2011 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 01/24/2011 11:40:39 PM PST by jdoug666

Former Hawaii elections clerk Tim Adams has now signed an affidavit swearing he was told by his supervisors in Hawaii that no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Barack Obama Jr....

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: adams; affidavit; birthcertificate; birthers; certificategate; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama; timadams
Mr. Adams might need protection after this revelation.
1 posted on 01/24/2011 11:40:43 PM PST by jdoug666
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To: jdoug666

Better believe it. They surely don’t want him talking up now that this other story of Neil Abercrombie’s buddy has hit every major radio market.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb—1AxmgZ8

Obama story about Hawaii past and lost birth certificate


2 posted on 01/24/2011 11:42:18 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: jdoug666

Time to scour the Kenyan birth records.


3 posted on 01/24/2011 11:42:27 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Nothing sharpens the mind like not being able to get a job. /Nonstatist)
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To: jdoug666

Reptilians have hatch stamps not birth certificates.


4 posted on 01/24/2011 11:44:45 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: jdoug666


Thank you Neil for putting this issue of missing documentation back out there

No doubt the birth certificate existed but was stolen by Sarah Palin and Bigfoot and taken aboard a UFO - that story will be coming next.
5 posted on 01/24/2011 11:48:28 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: jdoug666

The thought plickens.


6 posted on 01/24/2011 11:49:51 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: jdoug666

Not sure how he can swear to the non-existence of a document.


7 posted on 01/24/2011 11:50:41 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz; jdoug666

He didn’t he swore that he was told by his supervisors that none existed.


8 posted on 01/24/2011 11:52:48 PM PST by reaganaut (Mormonism is its own worst enemy.)
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To: jdoug666
Until the truth is finally forced out one way or the other, there will always be some people believing in the conspiracy that Obama was born in Hawaii.
9 posted on 01/24/2011 11:53:47 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: jdoug666

bmk


10 posted on 01/25/2011 12:01:04 AM PST by Hypo2
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To: reaganaut

Should someone ping the zotted missing-document apologists? ;)


11 posted on 01/25/2011 12:02:33 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: reaganaut

So then it comes down to one person’s word against another person’s word.

And that is not going to fly in any courtroom in the nation.


12 posted on 01/25/2011 12:11:36 AM PST by trumandogz
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To: jdoug666
People also forget that the birth address given in the newspaper in 1961 in Hawaii was not true according to investigators.The investigators spoke to people who's family formally owned the home and no one knew the Obamas including the neighbors who lived in the area at that time.
13 posted on 01/25/2011 12:16:56 AM PST by taxtruth (Don't end the fed,jail the fed!)
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To: jdoug666

I hope Rush shouts these revelations from the roof tops. The significance of this finding points most strongly to a birth certificate in Kenya.


14 posted on 01/25/2011 12:18:37 AM PST by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: jdoug666

It doesn’t matter because the Republican a-holes have decided they can’t even mention the issue for fear of the mean old media.

Cowardly losers all of them. I’m sick to death of hearing about it since none of them will do a darn thing to investigate it.


15 posted on 01/25/2011 12:18:37 AM PST by Bullish
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To: freedumb2003
Click here
16 posted on 01/25/2011 12:19:26 AM PST by Pharmboy (What always made the state a hell has been that man tried to make it heaven-Hoelderlin)
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To: trumandogz

You are the FR master of strawmen, trumandogs. No one said anything about any court room.


17 posted on 01/25/2011 12:20:31 AM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: jdoug666

Doesn’t matter where he was born. The facts are that we have a Kenyan Marxist serving as President of the United States, while at the same time getting ready to make a State of the Union Address, where he will claim to be a dusky reincarnation of Ronald Reagan, while at the same time calling massive socialist spending packages “investments”. Marty Python skits weren’t that crazy.

If I could have one wish granted now it would be that my dad could come back to witness this s—t!!


18 posted on 01/25/2011 12:23:30 AM PST by Nucluside (ready)
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To: freedumb2003
We can hope Snerdly is lurking here on Free Republic.... somehow we need to get this to Rush and have Rush rubb this in their faces, since the liberals are the self proclaimed champions for the issue of racism ( actually, they are hypocrites ) .... this would really send the liberals, MSM into a rage.
I got this comment from another Freeper from a thread, wish there was a way to get this to Rush to make this point.

( *** ” Of course, the Kenyan birth EVEWITNESES cannot be believed.
Why?

Because they’re BLACK?? “ ** )

I responded, that’s racism... Rush should make a point about this, hope Snerdly sees this.

Is the MSM and Liberals racist since they won't believe the eyewitness testimony of " Blacks " in Kenya that Obama was born in Kenya ?
19 posted on 01/25/2011 12:26:31 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: freedumb2003

“Time to scour the Kenyan birth records.”

Well, remember when BHO’s Kenyan grandmother (I believe) told someone in the press that she was there in the room the night he was born (in Kenya)?

Has anyone even seen or heard from her again after that little revelation?? Amazing how THAT story (and video/audio clip) immediately died, even among conservatives.

Yes, hope this young man who came forward stays safe and that he’s unimpeachable in his facts.


20 posted on 01/25/2011 12:29:22 AM PST by llandres
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To: American Constitutionalist

No, no, no; it’s not Racism that invalidates their witness — It’s Social Darwinism.
You see, being from Africa, they could not understand that the airplane they had boarded had taken them away from their native Africa to Hawaii to witness the miraculous birth of Obama.

[/sarc]


21 posted on 01/25/2011 12:35:31 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Nucluside
Problem is that 0bambi is backed into a corner...

and he has the nuclear codes and control "football" with him.

22 posted on 01/25/2011 12:36:08 AM PST by spokeshave (Issa is a self-made man. He was in the military doing bomb disposal, must be pretty fearless.)
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To: OneWingedShark

So, what you are saying is 0bama and the other Kenya-birth deniers are now the Colonialists looking down their noses at the long-oppressed African tribals!?!


23 posted on 01/25/2011 12:44:27 AM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: reaganaut
I don't claim to be a 'birther', but this new information appears to at least give the advantage to the 'birthers'.

I'm not 100 percent convinced that this information, if accurate, would enable one to conclude Obama is not a naturalized U.S. citizen.

But I will say this information, if accurate, is enough to make a reasonable assertion that there is no proof that Barack Obama is a naturalized U.S. citizen, as I believe the Constitution requires.

And that, by itself, is enough to warrant an official investigation.

24 posted on 01/25/2011 1:15:37 AM PST by zipper
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To: zipper

If he is naturalized that in itself is proof that he isn’t a natural born citizen.


25 posted on 01/25/2011 1:18:56 AM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: zipper

“reasonable assertion that there is no proof that Barack Obama is a naturalized U.S. citizen, as I believe the Constitution requires.”

A NATURALIZED citizen does not qualify for POTUS.
One has to be NATIVE BORN.
Naturalized is for foreigners who become citizens.


26 posted on 01/25/2011 1:31:47 AM PST by AlexW
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To: Nucluside

“If I could have one wish granted now it would be that my dad could come back to witness this s—t!!”

I’ve often had the same thought about my dad. Not so sure I’d want him seeing what has happened to our country.


27 posted on 01/25/2011 1:33:04 AM PST by panaxanax (The less people know about you, the better off you are.)
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To: trumandogz

“Not sure how he can swear to the non-existence of a document.”

Yes, that would be like trying to prove a negative.


28 posted on 01/25/2011 1:37:14 AM PST by AlexW
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To: American Constitutionalist
>" Is the MSM and Liberals racist since they won't believe the eyewitness testimony of " Blacks " in Kenya that Obama was born in Kenya ? "

Depends..... Are they clean, and articulate?

29 posted on 01/25/2011 1:40:10 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: jdoug666
I scanned through the article and I'm still wondering if this could be a semantics issue.

I can't determine if this means the person who is the current president doesn't have any birth certificate at all in Hawaii or if it means the person who is the current president doesn't have a birth certificate with the name Barack Obama Jr. on it in Hawaii.

I have to mention Hillbuzz here, who has gotten a lot of dicussion and link-ups on his thread about the different name theory.

Just a semantic question for curiosity's sake.

30 posted on 01/25/2011 1:47:41 AM PST by longjack
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To: AlexW; TigersEye

thanks — both correct, I should have said “natural born citizen”

a little too late for me to be up


31 posted on 01/25/2011 2:12:29 AM PST by zipper
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To: jonrick46
I hope Rush shouts these revelations from the roof tops

Don't hold your breath Rush and other conservative talk show types have have shown no stomach where this issue is concerned. Won't go there ...

32 posted on 01/25/2011 2:35:37 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: BluH2o

They all, including Beck, think birthers are stupid. Either that or they’re jobs are to make millions while fooling their listeners.


33 posted on 01/25/2011 2:54:37 AM PST by Terry Mross (I voted for McCain and WASTED my vote.)
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To: jdoug666
It was a good story up to the end. Then Mr. Adams is revealed to be gullible and dim-witted...

Adams told WND he supported Hillary Clinton during the 2008 presidential election campaign.

He described himself as a libertarian who wants less government spending, fewer laws that restrict personal freedoms, more adherences to the Constitution and an end to foreign wars. "I'm interested in individual liberty and upholding the Constitution," he said.

Mr. Adams, you should know Hillary Clinton would not deliver on a single one of your ideals.

34 posted on 01/25/2011 3:08:24 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: trumandogz

Good point, you can’t prove a negative.

You can say however that it’s not where it’s supposed to be... :)


35 posted on 01/25/2011 3:22:24 AM PST by thatjoeguy (Wind is just air, but pushier.)
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To: AlexW

The Constitution says “natural born citizen” - not “native born citizen”. They might be the same thing, or they might not.


36 posted on 01/25/2011 4:35:22 AM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: jdoug666

This is not news. Nobody ever thought he had a Hawaiian Birth certificate.


37 posted on 01/25/2011 4:48:19 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Re-Elect President Sarah Palin 2016)
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To: AlexW
"A NATURALIZED citizen does not qualify for POTUS. One has to be NATIVE BORN."

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

38 posted on 01/25/2011 5:05:35 AM PST by Godebert
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To: AlexW
Founder and Historian David Ramsay Defines Natural Born Citizen in 1789
39 posted on 01/25/2011 5:08:36 AM PST by Godebert
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To: jdoug666

Messiahs don’t have no steenkin’ birth certificates.


40 posted on 01/25/2011 5:41:29 AM PST by RetSignman ("It's about saving our Republic, STUPID")
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To: F15Eagle

“FREE THE LONG FORM!”


41 posted on 01/25/2011 7:29:52 AM PST by Dryman ("FREE THE LONG FORM!")
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To: F15Eagle

ROFLMAO. A few might be able to help, but then it will just turn into a flame war and that would be bad.

But I am thinking there is as much of a chance of finding Zero’s birth cert, as there is finding the gold plates.


42 posted on 01/25/2011 9:16:20 AM PST by reaganaut (Mormonism is its own worst enemy.)
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To: trumandogz

It does fly normally. You are swearing under oath, under the penalty of perjury (just as if you were in court) that your statement is true.

However, considering the topic, it may not get far and he may be prosecuted for perjury, but it will be tough to prove.


43 posted on 01/25/2011 9:17:57 AM PST by reaganaut (Mormonism is its own worst enemy.)
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To: zipper

Agreed. Anyone else would have had to provide documentation, but Zero gets away with it? WTH?


44 posted on 01/25/2011 9:20:48 AM PST by reaganaut (Mormonism is its own worst enemy.)
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To: TigersEye

>So, what you are saying is 0bama and the other Kenya-birth deniers are now the Colonialists looking down their noses at the long-oppressed African tribals!?!

;) — Exactly... and how is that ‘liberal’ or ‘progressive’ of them?*

*I DO like using people’s own words against them.


45 posted on 01/25/2011 12:03:19 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: reaganaut; trumandogz

>>So then it comes down to one person’s word against another person’s word.

Even if that is the case, all that would be required to disprove the accusation would be production of the accused of the birth-certificate.

>>And that is not going to fly in any courtroom in the nation.

Not quite. The statement sworn to is that these officials, presumably his superiors, told him there was no birth certificate... not the actuality of the [non-]existence of the birth certificate itself.

>It does fly normally. You are swearing under oath, under the penalty of perjury (just as if you were in court) that your statement is true.
>
>However, considering the topic, it may not get far and he may be prosecuted for perjury, but it will be tough to prove.

About the only way I see to prove him a perjurer would be the production of the birth certificate. If the certificate exists, and proves Obama ineligible, then there is a serious problem [politically speaking] for those who would charge him with perjury: its production would be a smoking-gun of conspiracy and [quite probably] treason. If the birth cert is American, yet from some other State than Hawaii, then the political consequences are also great: for the President would be proven a liar, along with many public officials & the media, and it is possible that fraud [and conspiracy] charges could then be brought. The Hawaii law even allows for the courts to demand documents, such as birth certificates, for evidence; therefore the ‘privacy laws’ excuse would be null and void were this to come to trial.

IOW, as far as I can tell this is a no-win battle (unless the birth certificate is genuine and valid and all as-claimed) if they choose to peruse it in the courts.


46 posted on 01/25/2011 12:16:33 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Actually, they would have to prove that his superiors DID NOT tell him that there was no birth cert since that is what he attested to.

And I don’t think it will go far, just enough to make the news and discredit him.


47 posted on 01/25/2011 1:00:52 PM PST by reaganaut (Mormonism is its own worst enemy.)
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To: zipper
a little too late for me to be up

I know the feeling. ;-)

48 posted on 01/25/2011 1:58:56 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: OneWingedShark

His words or not; it is certainly true that 0bambi is now “The Man” and a Colonialist Oppressor. ;^)


49 posted on 01/25/2011 2:15:46 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: jdoug666
Proof there is no long form hospital generated birth certificate on file in Hawaii.

Dead silence from Obama and his lackeys. Millions spent avoiding it's release.

In August, 2008, just two months before the election, the Democrat Party of Hawaii’s (DPH) chairman, Brian Schatz, had already refused to include legally required, explicit language in its sworn Official Certification of Nomination (OCON) that Barack Obama was qualified to serve as President under the provisions of the U.S. Constitution.

Tim Adams, a 2008 senior elections clerk for the Honolulu district, has contended that he was told that there is no long-form birth certificate for Obama, contrary to what Hawaii officials have publicly stated.

And now we have Gov. Abercrombie's exhaustive search for his messiah's holy grail. He found NOTHING.

The Newspaper announcements were supposedly generated by the filing of a long form birth certificate by the HDOH[like the Nordyke twins]. Since Obama does not have a long form birth certificate, we must conclude the newspaper announcements are forgeries.

The COLBS Obama put on line are also FORGERIES.

Obama's Books are forgeries written by a domestic terrorist named Bill Ayers.

They say a grand jury can indict a ham sandwich but the SRM can put a Marxist, Muslim, America-hating illegal alien bent on destroy the United States in the White House.

So far, they're doing a pretty good job covering for him too.

50 posted on 01/25/2011 2:55:31 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (I'm armed and Amish.)
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