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Democrats: our bullseye targets on House districts are not like Palinís crosshair targets (4/2010)
Palm Beach Post ^ | 4/8/2010 | George Bennett

Posted on 01/09/2011 10:39:18 AM PST by Qbert

Sarah Palin’s use of crosshairs to target Democratic House incumbents is dangerous symbolism, Democrats say. But a party spokesman says it’s “a stretch” to compare Palin’s imagery to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee’s use of red and white bullseyes last year to target Republican incumbents.

Broward County Democratic Chairman Mitch Ceasar played the Palin card this week when he condemned GOP congressional hopeful Allen West for urging tea partyers to make Democratic U.S. Rep. Ron Klein “scared to come out of his house.”

Palin endorsed West last week. So Ceasar noted that the former Alaska governor and VP nominee also recently “unveiled a national political map using rifle crosshairs to mark the members of Congress across the country who supported healthcare reform.”

Klein isn’t on Palin’s map, but, Ceasar said, “West and his mentor Sarah Palin are shamefully stoking violent language and symbolism that threatens the safety of our leaders and public officials.”

Some in the conservative blogosphere contend there’s not much difference between Palin’s map and the Democrats’ placement of bullseyes on the districts of “targeted Republicans” who voted against the $787 billion stimulus bill.

Said National Republican Congressional Committee spokesman Andy Sere: “We’re waiting with bated breath for an acknowledgment that all their recent outrage has been manufactured for political gain. In the meantime, we’re asking Merriam-Webster to add ‘D-C-C-C’ as an alternate spelling for ‘hypocrisy.’ ”

(Excerpt) Read more at postonpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: az; ericcantor; freepressforpalin; gabriellegiffords; giffords; obama; palin; reichstagfire; sarahpalin
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Rep. Eric Cantor was one of "targets" with a bullseye on him. He was later threatened numerous times during the weeks before Obamacare passed, and a bullet was "randomly fired" at his campaign office window...

1 posted on 01/09/2011 10:39:21 AM PST by Qbert
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To: Qbert

BTTT


2 posted on 01/09/2011 10:40:56 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Looking for our Sam Adams)
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To: Qbert
More proof that the liberal morons are clueless when it comes to firearms and how they work. The crosshairs are on the shooter's scope. The bullseye goes on the TARGET! ie: The object you want to hit.

Just say NO to drugs.

3 posted on 01/09/2011 10:42:27 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (DNC memo - "Don't let this thing go to waste! Exploit! Exploit! Exploit!")
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To: Qbert

Please tell me this is not serious. Where are the adults? Neither use of symbols can be blamed as cause for the actions of deranged individuals. The gun didn’t do it, T.V. nor Radio talk shows did it. Second-hand smoke, nor transfat, nor salt, did it.
It must have been Bush! (sarc)


4 posted on 01/09/2011 10:45:03 AM PST by swamprebel ("history is prologue")
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To: Qbert

Democrats are idiots, but I digress.


5 posted on 01/09/2011 10:47:44 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
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To: Qbert
Rep. Eric Cantor was one of "targets" with a bullseye on him. He was later threatened numerous times during the weeks before Obamacare passed, and a bullet was "randomly fired" at his campaign office window...

And those slandering Palin and the tea party, had the assassin been successful in killing Cantor, would have said they were sorry it happened but that he should have known he was inciting people to violence and would have blamed him for it rather than the assassin - called for us to "understand" the assassin.

And as has been pointed out numerous times before...Palin's "crosshairs" are not "crosshairs" but a map marker or surveyor's symbol with no reference to weaponry at all.

6 posted on 01/09/2011 10:50:55 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: swamprebel

“Please tell me this is not serious. Where are the adults? Neither use of symbols can be blamed as cause for the actions of deranged individuals. The gun didn’t do it, T.V. nor Radio talk shows did it. Second-hand smoke, nor transfat, nor salt, did it.”

Yep. It’s all just demagoguery by the Libs to attempt to silence any opposition.


7 posted on 01/09/2011 10:52:46 AM PST by Qbert
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To: Jim Robinson
Democrats are idiots, but I digress.

And you're redundant.

8 posted on 01/09/2011 10:54:27 AM PST by JaguarXKE (Life - It's 10 percent circumstances and 90 percent how you react to circumstances - Sarah Palin)
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To: Qbert

Thanks for posting this...very enlightening to say the least.


9 posted on 01/09/2011 10:55:15 AM PST by bronxville
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To: Republican Wildcat

“And those slandering Palin and the tea party, had the assassin been successful in killing Cantor, would have said they were sorry it happened but that he should have known he was inciting people to violence and would have blamed him for it rather than the assassin - called for us to “understand” the assassin.”

Absolutely right.


10 posted on 01/09/2011 10:55:27 AM PST by Qbert
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To: Qbert

11 posted on 01/09/2011 11:01:51 AM PST by WakeUpAndVote ((No, you're a towel))
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Aren’t BULLSEYES for throwing beanbags? s/ Dearie me! Liberals are SO clueless.


12 posted on 01/09/2011 11:01:57 AM PST by Twinkie (Awake and strengthen that which remains . . . . . . . . Revelation 3)
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To: Qbert

The fact is that both the bullseye and the cross-hairs imagery is damned stupid. A few of us here called it such back when it first popped up. We knew that it would someday be used against Palin...not a hard prediction to make. And for that reason we considered it stupid. You never give your enemy a hammer to smack you with.


13 posted on 01/09/2011 11:06:18 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: WakeUpAndVote

Between that, and their article by BlueBoy saying “She’s dead to me!”, I would say that the Daily Kooks were responsible for the incendiary “vitriol” leading to the shooting.


14 posted on 01/09/2011 11:09:01 AM PST by Qbert
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To: Qbert

They are the biggest crybaby hypocrites. No wonder people are leaving them in droves


15 posted on 01/09/2011 11:10:20 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat (The Rodney King Riots: Courtesy of ABC, CBS, NBC & CNN)
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To: Qbert

The dim party is the the VILLAGE OF IDIOTS that has been missing.

LLS


16 posted on 01/09/2011 11:12:59 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: wtc911
The fact is that both the bullseye and the cross-hairs imagery is damned stupid. A few of us here called it such back when it first popped up. We knew that it would someday be used against Palin...not a hard prediction to make.

Agreed.

I also think we empower the beltway types too much by reacting. To think Sarah or Glen Beck had anything at all to do with this is absolute lunacy.

17 posted on 01/09/2011 11:13:17 AM PST by IamConservative (Never kick a fresh turd on a hot day. - Truman)
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To: wtc911

“You never give your enemy a hammer to smack you with.”

True, but even if they didn’t have any supposed “evidence”, they would just make it up anyways (the “N-word” supposedly being chanted before the Obamacare vote; people “spitting” on black congressmen; fabricated quotes from Rush about “praising” slavery, etc, etc). That’s what they do.


18 posted on 01/09/2011 11:16:06 AM PST by Qbert
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To: Qbert

This is too funny! Democrats are silly people.

By the way, there seems to be a major effort on the part of left-leaning folk to blame these shootings on Palin, Angle, Bachmann, etc., because they used “violent” rhetoric.


19 posted on 01/09/2011 11:26:26 AM PST by popdonnelly (Your political opponents want you to shut up.)
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To: popdonnelly

Pure Alinsky, right down the line.


20 posted on 01/09/2011 11:40:34 AM PST by West Texas Chuck (US out of the UN - UN out of the US)
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To: Qbert
OK, so if we're not supposed to use surveyor marks or crosshairs to identify Democrats on maps, how about this:


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

21 posted on 01/09/2011 11:42:20 AM PST by The Comedian (Puzzling puzzle pieces precisely proliferating panoramically.)
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To: wtc911
The fact is that both the bullseye and the cross-hairs imagery is damned stupid. A few of us here called it such back when it first popped up. We knew that it would someday be used against Palin...not a hard prediction to make. And for that reason we considered it stupid. You never give your enemy a hammer to smack you with.

What is truly stupid is for normal people to dumb down their language and communications to avoid upsetting the limited intellect of the "progressive crowd" of Obama/Pelosi/Reid/DU voters.

English comprehension and anger management is their problem.

22 posted on 01/09/2011 11:47:16 AM PST by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: wtc911
The fact is that both the bullseye and the cross-hairs imagery is damned stupid. A few of us here called it such back when it first popped up. We knew that it would someday be used against Palin...not a hard prediction to make. And for that reason we considered it stupid. You never give your enemy a hammer to smack you with.

Palin doesn't advocate violence.

Palin's image was that of a land surveyor's scope.

Even so, there isn't a shred of evidence that the killer saw Palin's image and there isn't a shred of evidence that the killer mistook the land surveyor's target for a gun target.

The truth is on the side of Palin.

When one walks on egg shells such as yourself, worrying about what lies and false accusations may be used against them, one as lost the battle.

Palin hasn't given the enemy a hammer to smack her with. It's her enemy who brings its own hammer and it's you who wishes to appease the enemy instead of standing up for the simple truth.

BTW, it's hypocritcal that you use the words "hammer", "smack" in describing a violent action against Palin, whilst you criticize Palin for using a land surveyors target, when she targets Democrats.

Of course I don't expect you to understand that.

23 posted on 01/09/2011 11:55:37 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: Qbert

Thanks for the target maps from each side.
I’ve forwarded them to a number of liberals who are screaming about right wing hate speech being the cause of violence and murder.

These two maps completely negates their frantic attempts to link all violence and death to the right.


24 posted on 01/09/2011 12:05:50 PM PST by Joan Kerrey
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To: FreeReign
Of course it was stupid for palin to use a cross-hair symbol (note that she nor anyone else called it a surveyor's symbol until the shooting).

The very fact that you are having to defend its use proves its stupidity.

25 posted on 01/09/2011 12:39:11 PM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: wtc911

When Fred Phelps protests at one of you families funerals, are you going to invite him in for tea?


26 posted on 01/09/2011 12:43:20 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bailout)
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To: wtc911

It doesn’t need defending. People use metaphors like this all the time in politics, and a graphic representation of “targeting” an opponent’s district is rather mild.

I think it’s stupid for any of Palin’s people to describe them as anything other than cross-hairs. Defending it makes it sounds like it’s something that needs defense.

If I were her PR mouthpiece, (there’s a scary thought) any time it was brought up I’d say it was the printed equivalent of Obama saying “If they bring a knife, We’ll bring a gun”.


27 posted on 01/09/2011 12:47:53 PM PST by M1911A1
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To: wtc911; Qbert
You never give your enemy a hammer to smack you with.

True. But, the enemy has outdone themselves this time with their vileness. This hearkens back to when they blamed the OKC Bombing on our side.

28 posted on 01/09/2011 2:36:50 PM PST by EveningStar (Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
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To: M1911A1
If it doesn't need defending then why are so many here doing just that?

My simple point is that it was stupid imagery and was so called then...the naked truth of this is borne out by the fact of this very thread and those like it.

29 posted on 01/09/2011 2:46:33 PM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: Qbert

How silly can everyone be on both sides? Target sites and marks on a map didn’t persuade this kid to kill anyone. Both sides are so intent on blaming the other side with this silly notion of targets and cross hairs. The kid wasn’t that clever to take a hint, he was just nuts in the head.


30 posted on 01/09/2011 2:57:10 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (Being awake is dangerous and silly.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Somebody who knows how, please send the two graphics to the Democratic Congressional idiots. You know, one with the Surveyor’s mark and scope crosshair, to show them the difference. I’m tired of seeing so many ill-informed people repeating the lie. At least they need to know that they are not fooling anybody.


31 posted on 01/09/2011 3:04:04 PM PST by WVNan
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Qbert.
All Democrats are Liars

32 posted on 01/09/2011 4:03:48 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: The Comedian
I prefer this:

L

33 posted on 01/09/2011 4:49:20 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: WakeUpAndVote
Daily Kos Banner
34 posted on 01/09/2011 4:51:50 PM PST by Christian Engineer Mass (Capitol Hill operator 866-727-4894 toll free. Just say which Representative/Senator you want to spea)
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To: The Comedian

Thanks for that. I needed a chuckle.


35 posted on 01/09/2011 5:41:13 PM PST by scramjet (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Not only that but those so called “crosshairs” look nothing like what I have ever seen in a rifle scope. They are more like “register marks” that I used to see on printing plates.

The bullseye looks real though and as you note the bullseye is what you shoot at, it has no other known function I am aware of other than as a target, if not for bullets then for darts, arrows etc.


36 posted on 01/09/2011 6:26:26 PM PST by RipSawyer
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To: icwhatudo; Cincinatus' Wife

Ping.


37 posted on 01/09/2011 6:29:20 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: The Comedian

38 posted on 01/09/2011 8:47:47 PM PST by rfp1234 (Badgers? We don't need no stinkin' badgers!)
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To: swamprebel
“Where are the adults?”

Unfortunately not in the current administration.

39 posted on 01/09/2011 9:04:24 PM PST by Gabrial (The Whitehouse Nightmare will continue as long as the Nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: Qbert

This on top of the DLC in 2004 and Daily Kos targeting Gabrielle Giffords in 2008.


40 posted on 01/09/2011 10:37:15 PM PST by Steelers6
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To: snippy_about_it

I hope Somebody is cataloging all this....there were several attacks on Cantor (R-VA) in this campaign, and he was definitely NOT the only one.


41 posted on 01/09/2011 10:41:43 PM PST by cookcounty (Knives, Guns, Enemies and Axx-Kicks: The Gentle Political Speech of Barack Obama.)
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To: Jet Jaguar; Qbert; All
Check out the "ping backs" to articles that picked up the Democrat's "TARGET" map posted at Verum Serum
42 posted on 01/10/2011 1:42:19 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Thanks for the info.


43 posted on 01/10/2011 2:04:40 AM PST by Qbert
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To: Qbert
Sarah Palin’s use of crosshairs to target Democratic House incumbents is dangerous symbolism, Democrats say.
But a party spokesman says it’s “a stretch” to compare Palin’s imagery to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee’s use of red and white bullseyes last year to target Republican incumbents.

That rat party spokesman better find a new pusher.
The bad Heroin he's shooting up is damaging his brain - and eyesight.

(if 'something' is 'targetted', then its IN the 'crosshairs'. It's same-same, ya bozo)

44 posted on 01/10/2011 4:39:07 AM PST by Condor51 (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: Qbert

Various examples of leftist calls for violence and other hate speech —

1. Numerous Internet entries, including calls to kill Bush: http://riffenberg.wordpress.com/2010/03/25/leftist-haters-hate-speech/
2. Bill Maher sorry assassination attempt on Cheney failed: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2486049/posts
3. Alec Baldwin and stoning Henry Hyde to death (2/3 the way down on the wiki page): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alec_Baldwin
4. 0bama comments about bringing a gun to a knife fight vs. GOP: http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Obama_brings_a_gun_to_a_knife_fight.html
5. 0bama urges Hispanics to punish GOP enemies: http://spectator.org/blog/2010/10/25/obama-urges-hispanics-to-punis


45 posted on 01/10/2011 6:25:50 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Qbert

Various examples of leftist calls for violence and other hate speech —

1. Numerous Internet entries, including calls to kill Bush: http://riffenberg.wordpress.com/2010/03/25/leftist-haters-hate-speech/
2. Bill Maher sorry assassination attempt on Cheney failed: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2486049/posts
3. Alec Baldwin and stoning Henry Hyde to death (2/3 the way down on the wiki page): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alec_Baldwin
4. 0bama comments about bringing a gun to a knife fight vs. GOP: http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Obama_brings_a_gun_to_a_knife_fight.html
5. 0bama urges Hispanics to punish GOP enemies: http://spectator.org/blog/2010/10/25/obama-urges-hispanics-to-punis


46 posted on 01/10/2011 6:25:57 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: ScottinVA

Sorry for the double post. Got error message the first time.


47 posted on 01/10/2011 6:26:33 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: The Comedian
Given the sexual practices of those who are leftists, this symbol might be more appropriate:

48 posted on 01/10/2011 6:29:32 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Qbert
would have said they were sorry it happened but that he should have known he was inciting people to violence and would have blamed him for it rather than the assassin - called for us to “understand” the assassin.”

Along with the standard leftist crap about the assassin being an "oppressed person" who was deeply frustrated at Republican intransigence on 0bamaCare.

49 posted on 01/10/2011 6:29:43 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Qbert

This crap is nothing more than an attempt to take the focus from what actually happened to draw us in to an argument that is totally unrelated.


50 posted on 01/10/2011 6:33:02 AM PST by dforest
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