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Is the Republican Party Finished?
The American Thinker ^ | December 29, 2010 | Michael Filozof

Posted on 12/29/2010 3:23:30 AM PST by Scanian

The lame-duck session of the 111th Congress proved one thing beyond a doubt: the Republican Party does not represent the interests of conservatives. Despite the midterm election tidal wave, in which the Republican Party gained 63 House seats (eclipsing its historic1994 success against Clinton), congressional Republicans failed to leverage their victory into political clout and collapsed like a house of cards in the lame-duck session.

The last two weeks ought to have sickened conservatives. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell spectacularly failed to hold his caucus together to even delay ratification of the START treaty until the 112th Congress is seated in January. Republican leftists Olympia Snowe and Lisa Murkowski sided with Democrats to end the military's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy, forcing the gay agenda from the streets of San Francisco right into the U.S. Marine Corps. Congressional Republicans agreed to cut FICA taxes for Social Security (which is underfunded already) and expand the Democratic Party's welfare state constituency by extending unemployment benefits -- in exchange for maintaining current tax rates for a paltry two years. The deal will add billions to the deficit. Tea Party darling Scott Brown, mocked by Obama for driving a truck in his insurgent 2009 campaign in which he stole "Ted Kennedy's seat" from the Democrats, voted for Obama's agenda on all of these issues.

Give the Democratic devils their due. They are astute students of Machiavelli.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; dadt; dontaskdonttell; gop; homosexualagenda; mcconnell; start; taxbill
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1 posted on 12/29/2010 3:23:36 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian

I’ve been voting straight Republican (aside from a couple of Libertarian votes long ago) since 1978. But the Republican establishment lost me in 2010. In the future, I’ll be voting only for Conservatives, and I’ll be ignoring RINOs completely. I imagine that may hurt the GOP: I don’t care.


2 posted on 12/29/2010 3:28:25 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Scanian

The Va. Tea Party Chairman is running for the Republican Senate Primary in ‘12. The Tea Party thing works in ‘12 or it’s probably CWII.


3 posted on 12/29/2010 3:29:34 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Scanian

I have to agree. I voted for the frying pan over the fire. We will have a chance to bag more RINOS in 12.


4 posted on 12/29/2010 3:30:11 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Americanism vs Communism)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Lost me with the Bushes. Compassionate conservatism is just disgusting.


5 posted on 12/29/2010 3:31:49 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Americanism vs Communism)
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To: Scanian
Right at the moment the republican party isn't doing a damn thing but sucking up to the leftists.

If that doesn't change it's a lost cause.

6 posted on 12/29/2010 3:34:16 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Scanian

It is time the GOP realizes that the voters do not work for them, rather they are supposed to work for their voters. They’ve had the luxury of it being backwards for far too long.


7 posted on 12/29/2010 3:36:38 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Scanian

I could see under W. that the party was finished. There were many that saw it in 2001 yet I stuck with him and the party. After his reelection it was plain. The Republican party is counter to many if not most conservative interests. Not saying the party doesn’t have some fine conservatives but the party isn’t run by them. The Blue Blood RINO bastards run the party and they are in bed with the socialists.


8 posted on 12/29/2010 3:38:15 AM PST by Cisco Nix (Real Conservatives stay sober and focused)
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To: Scanian

Yup. They’re a bout to take over the House, the rat President is still less than popular but they are “finished” yes. They weren’t finished in the 30’s when they had 1/4 of Congress but they are now, u-huh.


9 posted on 12/29/2010 3:38:39 AM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Couldn’t have said it better there ClearCase_guy


10 posted on 12/29/2010 3:47:19 AM PST by Joe Boucher
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To: ClearCase_guy
Welcome to the club, my friend.

Wonder if anyone at the RNC is really at home? I am sick of career, ladder-climbing politicans, their money-dispensing lobbyists, and bobbleheads opining on the TV.

11 posted on 12/29/2010 3:59:23 AM PST by pointsal
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To: screaminsunshine

“Compassionate conservatism is just disgusting”

I think most conservatives are compassionate, they are just not fools.


12 posted on 12/29/2010 4:01:21 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist (Oligarchy...never vote for the Ivy League candidate.)
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To: Scanian
The problem is that while sometimes you have to tear down to rebuild, we tried to rebuild without tearing down and now we still have a bunch of RINOs surrounding us.
13 posted on 12/29/2010 4:07:48 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: Scanian

It is too stupid, ignorant and corrupt to remain a viable Party.


14 posted on 12/29/2010 4:07:55 AM PST by mulligan
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To: mulligan

The lame duck session proved you 100% right, I’m afraid.


15 posted on 12/29/2010 4:09:12 AM PST by Scanian
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To: ClearCase_guy
No, it is not going to hurt the GOP, it's going to to hurt the RINOs. We are already in the beginning's of a Civil War. Between Statists and Constitutional Conservatives. This is not going to be easy nor pretty. Stopping the Statists advances and taking over the GOP will be a good start.
16 posted on 12/29/2010 4:09:21 AM PST by MCF
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To: Scanian
First, the Senate is a lost cause until you unload more liberals of either party.

Second, the good guys haven't yet arrived in the House. If the House simply refuses to ratify Senate nonsense, that will help. It will help more if they also refuse continuing resolutions. It will help most if they stand firm in reconciliation meetings and say the Senate is welcome to accept our bill...period...end of reconciliation.

If they don't do these things, I agree, the Party is finished. You won't be able to see the ruins, though, because they will be camouflaged among the ruins of the rest of the country that is just as finished.

17 posted on 12/29/2010 4:12:05 AM PST by stevem
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To: Scanian

Its called the RinoCrat Oligarchy. Its primary loyalty is to the two legs of fascism....Wall St. and K St.

They declared civil war on FLyover Country decades ago.


18 posted on 12/29/2010 4:14:37 AM PST by mo
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To: stevem

“Senate is a lost cause until you unload more liberals of either party”

May I suggest that we start with Scuzzy Scottie Brown.

After the con job he did on conservatives, he deserves a very stiff primary challenge. And, I hope and pray that not one FReeper sends one red cent to that sellout! Let him run without our help next time!

You know what they say: “Screw me once, shame on you...etc.”


19 posted on 12/29/2010 4:17:03 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian
The Neighborhood Precinct Committeeman Strategy to Take Back the Republican Party and then America at the Ballot Box

Don't get mad. Get even.

20 posted on 12/29/2010 4:24:15 AM PST by samtheman
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To: A Strict Constructionist

Conservativism IS compassionate. Liberalism is tyranny.

Those two simple facts are completely beyond the grasp of every RINO in America and the entire Bush family.


21 posted on 12/29/2010 4:26:25 AM PST by samtheman
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To: MCF

The problem begins with the plethora of authoritarian statists right here on FR.


22 posted on 12/29/2010 4:29:22 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine (I'm shocked! Shocked to find out that gambling is going on in here!)
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To: Scanian

I have always only thought of the Republicans as what they are: The lesser of 2 evils.

This way, the disappointment is easier to swallow.


23 posted on 12/29/2010 4:32:58 AM PST by kingpins10
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To: samtheman

“Liberalism is tyranny.”

The O crowd is proving this every day.


24 posted on 12/29/2010 4:45:28 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist (Oligarchy...never vote for the Ivy League candidate.)
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To: central_va; ThePatriotsFlag
The Va. Tea Party Chairman is running for the Republican Senate Primary in ‘12.

I do not live in VA and I know nothing about this individual, but I have several questions. How did this person become Chairman? Was there a vote? If so, who voted? Was it an appointment? If so, who did the appointing? Or was the position merely assumed by this individual?

IMO, FReeper ThePatriotsFlag said it best about a year ago;

Something special is happening with the Tea Party Movement of today. Of course people will try to gain control of it because it is a very powerful source of energy. But the concern that it is “not controlled” and therefore “doomed” is unfounded. It needs not be nor should it be confined ... to a leader, to an organization or to a specific plan. Such activity would nullify the greatness of what it has become to date and could grow to in the future. One needn’t worry ... one only need to join the energy, shun people who attempt its control and allow plans to be spur of the moment. With a leader, there is a target, with an organization, a counter-organization, with a plan, a thwarting of the plan. But as pure ENERGY ... nothing can stop it. Think of it is energy ... join it, and be a part of this historical change-making effort.

25 posted on 12/29/2010 4:46:50 AM PST by Roccus
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I don’t understand this sentiment at all. This was NOT the 112th congress — it was the 111th congress! To expect THAT congress to act like the elections meant something is sheer sophistry.

Besides, during the lame duck session, we got the most liberal President in American History to admit that Art Laffer supply side Reaganomics WORKS. That is a stunning accomplishment.

This article is out of place — unless the 112th congress acts like the 111th — in which case it will be on the money.


26 posted on 12/29/2010 4:48:31 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Scanian

They have until the end of 2011 to convince me that they have really turned toward real and true conservatism. They also have to convince me that they are truly making a serious effort to overturn any (and every) non-constitutional action the government has done over the past 100 years.

At the end of 2011, I will make the decision whether to dump them in lieu of a serious third party that will do what I expect.


27 posted on 12/29/2010 4:51:48 AM PST by DH (The Second Amendment is the only protection for the First Amendment)
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To: ClearCase_guy

its what I do. No money to the rnc in years, they do not represent me,


28 posted on 12/29/2010 4:52:46 AM PST by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: Scanian

Democrats = 100% Commie
Republicans = mostly commie with a few members who try vainly to be conservative
Tea Party = mostly conservatives and a few commie infiltrators who think nobody is noticing


29 posted on 12/29/2010 5:00:22 AM PST by BuffaloJack (The Recession is officially over. We are now into Obama's Depression.)
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To: Scanian
Perfect slogan for "Conservatives" to begin hammering Lefist Demo-Rats AND RINO's and continue driving it home thru the next election:

HAD ENOUGH?

I heard this on Beck last night and he was repeating what was the slogan of some Republicans in the 1940's

It is akin to the "Are you better off today then......!"

Moreover, it is generic and can be used against all incumbents, especially those who we want to oust from both parties.

30 posted on 12/29/2010 5:04:27 AM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: ClearCase_guy
You people are nuts. The Republicans had no more votes in the Lameduck session than it had in the regular session.

If you expected more voting power to suddenly appear because Democrats were motivated to bow to the Republicans over that win, you really don't know Democrats ~ which is a good reason to NOT LET YOU GET INTO POWER.

The new day starts on the first day of the new session in January.

31 posted on 12/29/2010 5:04:49 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: C. Edmund Wright; SWAMPSNIPER

The people doing the kvetching are Mitbots and Democrat disruptors. Don’t listen to them.


32 posted on 12/29/2010 5:08:59 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Scanian

If the republican senators don’t come together in the new session and vote in our interests, I’ll certainly be finished with them.


33 posted on 12/29/2010 5:12:28 AM PST by jersey117
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To: muawiyah

Its amazing how many have bought into this tactic. The new congress hasn’t even taken office and they want to throw them overboard.


34 posted on 12/29/2010 5:14:30 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Scanian

GOP is dead to me, unless I see a Leadership a substantive change, pure and simple.
THe Bushes, and their fellow travelers have brought us to this point.
McConnell isn’t cutting the mustard in my book.


35 posted on 12/29/2010 5:21:38 AM PST by J Edgar
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To: cripplecreek

It is not the House that is the problem - it’s the Senate. They certainly didn’t have to jump on board with the lame ducks.


36 posted on 12/29/2010 5:21:58 AM PST by jersey117
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To: cripplecreek

It is not the House that is the problem - it’s the Senate. They certainly didn’t have to jump on board with the lame ducks.


37 posted on 12/29/2010 5:24:20 AM PST by jersey117
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To: jersey117

Usual suspects.


38 posted on 12/29/2010 5:25:04 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: muawiyah
Understood.

I've seen freepers who seemed to indicate that the new folks elected last November have been casting bad votes. Obviously, they are not yet seated, so they have not been casting any votes, good or bad. I get that.

My anger is with the old stalwarts like Snowe and Collins, and the relatively new Brown. They saw the results from Nov. They know which way the wind is blowing. They understand that Obama is a disaster -- and those establishment Republicans STILL INSIST on helping Liberal Democrats push their agenda forward.

The Lame Duck Congress was the perfect time for the existing Republicans to show that they "get it".

Well, they don't.

39 posted on 12/29/2010 5:26:57 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: J Edgar

“McConnell isn’t cutting the mustard in my book.”

Nope-—he gave away the store in the lame duck.

Look what it did for 0’s poll numbers-—the best he’s seen in over a year.


40 posted on 12/29/2010 5:29:14 AM PST by Scanian
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To: ClearCase_guy

——old stalwarts like Snowe and Collins, and the relatively new Brown. -—

They are not the problem. The people from Maine and Massachusetts are the problem. Those noted are but visible symbols of the real problem.


41 posted on 12/29/2010 5:33:33 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: Roccus

RICHMOND, Va—The leader of Virginia’s Tea Party organization has officially declared her candidacy for U.S. Senate.

Tea Party Patriots Federation chairwoman Jamie Radtke has filed papers to run for the Senate as a Republican in 2012. Radtke said she was prompted to join the race due to concerns about the ballooning national debt. Former senator George Allen, also a Republican, is expected to announce plans that he will also run for the seat held by Democrat Jim Webb, who has not said whether he’ll seek reelection.

(Copyright 2010 by 630 WMAL News. All Rights Reserved.)


42 posted on 12/29/2010 5:36:17 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: bert
I live in MA and I recognize that my neighbors are the problem.

But you cannot elect new people. We have the voters we have and complaining about it doesn't help. If the RNC wants to make some changes, they should cut off support from apostate Republicans and vigorously support primary challengers. The RNC does no such thing.

The establishment looks out for its own, and people like Brown, Snowe, Collins, and others receive lots of official support, which enables them to continue in their ways.

I would like to elect a new batch of voters, but that's impossible. So, I criticize the system that allows Leftists to run as Republicans.

43 posted on 12/29/2010 5:39:27 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy
Collins and Snowe are brain dead ~ they simply don't look at results in OTHER STATES and respond.

You find that with lots of folks from Maine ~ they don't know the United States exists so they don't care.

44 posted on 12/29/2010 5:42:56 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Scanian

The lame duck was just the continuation of the politics that brought us Obamacare. What I am watching closely:

1) Will the Senate reliably filibuster Harry’s socialist BS now that we have a buffer of 8? Are there more than 8 RINO’s left that don’t get it?

2) Is Boehner a conservative or a Republican? Does he have the spine to take the battle to the liberals? Does he understand doing nothing is better than compromising? Take the mandate and drive them back on their heals. Shut government down if he has to.

If he takes a path of compromise, I fear the tide will turn against the Tea Party for 2012.


45 posted on 12/29/2010 5:44:24 AM PST by IamConservative (Never kick a fresh turd on a hot day. - Truman)
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To: bert

“They are not the problem. The people from Maine and Massachusetts are the problem.”

I agree. It’s reality that in the blue States, things like the DADT repeal and abortion are more popular than the red States. However, there’s no excuse for RINOs from red States. We have to hope we get good conservative primary challengers. Lugar from Indiana? Hopefully, Mike Pence will run against him. Corker from Tennessee? Hutchinson from Texas? Hatch from Utah? All of them should be primaried hard in 2012. We just have to hope some good conservative statesmen step up and do it.


46 posted on 12/29/2010 5:45:15 AM PST by Big E
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To: cripplecreek
We expect Freepers to be smarter than that.

I think it's time to check their bonafides ~

47 posted on 12/29/2010 5:45:15 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: central_va

.....Radtke said she was prompted to join the race due to concerns about the ballooning national debt....

More likely she is afflicted with being on TV and in the papers. She likes it


48 posted on 12/29/2010 5:48:54 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: central_va
Thanks for the background, but my question still stands unanswered;

How did this person become Chairman? Was there a vote? If so, who voted? Was it an appointment? If so, who did the appointing? Or was the position merely assumed by this individual?

Not trying to be a wise @$$, but I do not take kindly to "leaders" who just appear.... with no bona fides......like Zer0.

49 posted on 12/29/2010 5:52:35 AM PST by Roccus
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To: Scanian
2011 brings the usual realignment in local precinct and caucus and club leadership. We are poised to smash the local RINOs out of power at take complete control of our local unit. This is happening all over our state. By the time the 2012 festivities begin, our state will be predominantly Tea Party folk who will ASSURE quality candidates for the next election. If you are not active at the local level... get active or quit whining. The battle is moving from the keyboard to the local party level. BE in it or... shutest thou thine mouth...
50 posted on 12/29/2010 6:01:24 AM PST by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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