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Obama Returns to End-of-Life Plan That Caused Stir (Medicare Death panels start Jan. 1)
NY Times ^ | 12/25/10 | ROBERT PEAR

Posted on 12/25/2010 7:58:43 PM PST by jimbo123

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To: rockinqsranch

“I’m NOT a slave......I think.”

“Slavery is freedom...”


21 posted on 12/25/2010 8:27:45 PM PST by jessduntno ("'How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think." - Adolph Hitler)
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To: jimbo123
And last year PolyFact (a subdivision of the St. Patersburg Times) gave Sarah Palin the “Lie of the Year” award for her use of Death Panels. I am sure they will be issuing a retraction. lol.
22 posted on 12/25/2010 8:28:08 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: MtnClimber

nomeklatura


23 posted on 12/25/2010 8:29:42 PM PST by griswold3 (Employment is off-shored, away from govt. regulations, price pressure groups, and liabilities.)
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To: jimbo123
These bastards never change. They will never change. They will fight the majority of voters in this country if they have to, to get their agenda forward.

Reading Reagan's biography. My rear end.

24 posted on 12/25/2010 8:29:53 PM PST by libh8er
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

The liberals mocked the conservatives who were concerned about death panels. They ridiculed Sarah Palin for her strong voice in that debate. They ridiculed ordinary citizens who went to the town meetings with congressmen to express shock and outrage about death panels.

Well, it turns out that the liberals are going to set up death panels through regulation rather than explicitly in legislation.

For all the liberals outrage at conservatives fear of death panels, it turns out that the conservatives were right, that the liberals did indeed plan to have death panels.

Why are liberals allowed to get away with outright lying, dissembling, etc.??????


25 posted on 12/25/2010 8:31:23 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: jimbo123

People need to read this entire article. Almost the entire second page is devoted to the efforts to keep this quiet so they get no resistance.


26 posted on 12/25/2010 8:33:22 PM PST by John W (Natural-born US citizen since 1955)
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To: jimbo123

Cost containment eventually will require the enforcement of some end of life protocol. This is step one.


27 posted on 12/25/2010 8:34:17 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: jimbo123; All
But the Obama administration will achieve the same goal by regulation, starting Jan. 1.

Under the new policy, outlined in a Medicare regulation, the government will pay doctors who advise patients on options for end-of-life care, which may include advance directives to forgo aggressive life-sustaining treatment.

What liberals cannot achieve by legislation, they will try to achieve by Judicial Fiat. If they fail at judicial fiat, they will work through unelected bureaucracies that, in essence, write legislation.

If they fail in these ways, they work through the culture in a "drip" fashion, until their goals become "acceptable".

Republicans who think this jackass is someone who will "move to the center" or act in "good faith" after his ass-kicking in November are ignoramuses. Hussein and his allies need to CRUSHED in the arena of ideas--NO COMPROMISE.

28 posted on 12/25/2010 8:37:44 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: JimSEA
"Cost containment eventually will require the enforcement of some end of life protocol."

Not if we are all taxed into poverty.

29 posted on 12/25/2010 8:37:53 PM PST by verity
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To: misterrob

Bump.


30 posted on 12/25/2010 8:38:42 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: misterrob

Bump.


31 posted on 12/25/2010 8:38:42 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: stefanbatory

Or even a dog to a cat litter box full of “tootsie rolls.”

Cats never do this.


32 posted on 12/25/2010 8:39:58 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: stefanbatory
They just can't let it go.

Maybe they'd like to indulge in a bit of it themselves and we'll be the judge of whether or not it works ~ ON THEM!

Bwahahahahahaha!

Stupid Democrat thugs. We know who they are.

33 posted on 12/25/2010 8:41:14 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Grim, gallows humor LOL


34 posted on 12/25/2010 8:42:01 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: jimbo123

hmm....but when Palin said this the criminal liberal media called her nutz....


35 posted on 12/25/2010 8:43:11 PM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Death Panels are a lot more subtle than that. Doesn't make them less deadly.

That's the key right there. Medicine has become such a technical and specialized field, the average person would not know if a Dr. was withholding options. Sure, if called on it the Doc could say such and such procedure or protocol was "experimental" or "had problems" with this interaction or that in XYZ's case. Anything aggressive is probably also going to be risky, and a Doc could cover their backside (and the hospital's and the insurance company's...) with a bunch of "best interests of the patient" BS.

36 posted on 12/25/2010 8:43:44 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Why are liberals allowed to get away with outright lying, dissembling, etc.?

Because they're good at it. Actually, the RATs paid dearly for it in Congress.

Those that survived did so only because their constituents are as corrupt and stupid as they are.

37 posted on 12/25/2010 8:45:16 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month)
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To: libh8er

Off topic, Which Reagan bio are you reading. Thanks.


38 posted on 12/25/2010 8:52:26 PM PST by vidbizz
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To: jimbo123

bookmark.


39 posted on 12/25/2010 8:57:43 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: jimbo123

After what I have read through this, it looks like my nursing services to the elderly via Medicare will be denied me when my time comes.


40 posted on 12/25/2010 9:06:31 PM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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