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Obama Returns to End-of-Life Plan That Caused Stir (Medicare Death panels start Jan. 1)
NY Times ^ | 12/25/10 | ROBERT PEAR

Posted on 12/25/2010 7:58:43 PM PST by jimbo123

When a proposal to encourage end-of-life planning touched off a political storm over “death panels,” Democrats dropped it from legislation to overhaul the health care system. But the Obama administration will achieve the same goal by regulation, starting Jan. 1.

Under the new policy, outlined in a Medicare regulation, the government will pay doctors who advise patients on options for end-of-life care, which may include advance directives to forgo aggressive life-sustaining treatment.

Congressional supporters of the new policy, though pleased, have kept quiet. They fear provoking another furor like the one in 2009 when Republicans seized on the idea of end-of-life counseling to argue that the Democrats’ bill would allow the government to cut off care for the critically ill.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: berwick; deathpanel; deathpanels; endoflife; healthcare; impeachment; medicare; obama; obamacare; obamalies; regulation; socialism; socializedmedicine
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1 posted on 12/25/2010 7:58:48 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

bump for later


2 posted on 12/25/2010 8:02:27 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: jimbo123
Congressional supporters of the new policy, though pleased, have kept quiet. They fear provoking another furor like the one in 2009 when Republicans seized on the idea of end-of-life counseling to argue that the Democrats’ bill would allow the government to cut off care for the critically ill.

Just what else do these idiots think "end of life planning" means?

3 posted on 12/25/2010 8:09:46 PM PST by calex59
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like a dog to its vomit...


4 posted on 12/25/2010 8:10:05 PM PST by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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"Under the new policy, outlined in a Medicare regulation, the government will pay doctors who advise patients "

Expending funds not authorized by the US Congress is illegal.

I believe Boner will call them on it too....

5 posted on 12/25/2010 8:10:12 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Nachum

Pay for docs to suggest you think about cashing out...


6 posted on 12/25/2010 8:11:19 PM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an “idiot”, you can be sure that you are doing to something right.)
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To: calex59
The elitists know what the plan is (and are confident that they will not be included in it). But the sheeple are ignorant. The reporting on this has been deliberately misleading from Day One.

I think a lot of people picture a Death Panel as a row of doctors at a table discussing Mary Smith, age 58, and deciding to give her an enormous shot of morphine rather than pay for her dialysis. The Sheeple say "That would never happen!" And they are right -- but no one says that's what a Death Panel is like. Death Panels are a lot more subtle than that. Doesn't make them less deadly.

7 posted on 12/25/2010 8:13:48 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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End of life planning and treatment is to be discussed with a doctor AND government should not be in the health care business. What that means though is that government agencies are not cutting checks to hospitals to pay people’s health care tab.

This hysteria about pulling the plug on granny is the other side of the same coin when liberals talk about having to take care of people through government means.


8 posted on 12/25/2010 8:14:57 PM PST by misterrob (Thug Life....now showing at a White House near you....)
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“The final version of the health care legislation, signed into law by President Obama in March, authorized Medicare coverage of yearly physical examinations, or wellness visits. The new rule says Medicare will cover “voluntary advance care planning,” to discuss end-of-life treatment, as part of the annual visit. “

Yes, each time you go fro your yearly exam you will be reminded to think about you END OF LIFE PLAN.

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Mr. Blumenauer, the author of the original end-of-life proposal, praised the rule as “a step in the right direction.”

“It will give people more control over the care they receive,” Mr. Blumenauer said in an interview. “It means that doctors and patients can have these conversations in the normal course of business, as part of our health care routine, not as something put off until we are forced to do it.”

Yes, they will desensitize you to it.

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9 posted on 12/25/2010 8:15:25 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: jimbo123

I read through this trying to find business of government anywhere, but found none.

My health isn’t any of the government’s business unless I am an asset in inventory such as say a slave or something along those lines.

I’m NOT a slave......I think.


10 posted on 12/25/2010 8:15:38 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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“The final version of the health care legislation, signed into law by President Obama in March, authorized Medicare coverage of yearly physical examinations, or wellness visits. The new rule says Medicare will cover “voluntary advance care planning,” to discuss end-of-life treatment, as part of the annual visit. “

Yes, each time you go fro your yearly exam you will be reminded to think about you END OF LIFE PLAN.

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Mr. Blumenauer, the author of the original end-of-life proposal, praised the rule as “a step in the right direction.”

“It will give people more control over the care they receive,” Mr. Blumenauer said in an interview. “It means that doctors and patients can have these conversations in the normal course of business, as part of our health care routine, not as something put off until we are forced to do it.”

Yes, they will desensitize you to it.

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11 posted on 12/25/2010 8:15:45 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: jimbo123

It beats being herded into an oven I suppose, but only slightly. The Obamanation rolls on! I shudder to think what the stinking RINOs are going to help him do in the NEXT two years.


12 posted on 12/25/2010 8:17:20 PM PST by Aleya2Fairlie
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Obamacare gets 0 funding Jan 5th 2011.


13 posted on 12/25/2010 8:17:51 PM PST by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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I just hope those who are denied medical care because they are seniors scream loud and clear that they will die or be seriously impaired because they are not receiving life saving treatment. The liberal media will be silent. Yet, when Democrats were drumming up support for prescription coverage under Medicare during the Bush administration, the media was parading seniors front and center saying they were having to choose between food and drugs.

The silence on this issue will be deafening.

14 posted on 12/25/2010 8:17:51 PM PST by mia
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To: rockinqsranch

HAHAHAHA.....remember Social Security???? YES, YOU are a slave.


15 posted on 12/25/2010 8:18:25 PM PST by goodnesswins (You deciding how to spend your health care $, thatÂ’s freedom. Govt deciding, thats a death panel)
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16 posted on 12/25/2010 8:19:08 PM PST by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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17 posted on 12/25/2010 8:19:08 PM PST by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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And they will make decisions based on your contribution to society. Only Marxists will get treatment. They will record how you voted and pay you back accordingly.


18 posted on 12/25/2010 8:23:09 PM PST by MtnClimber (Osama and Obama both hate freedom and have friends that bombed the Pentagon)
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ping...


19 posted on 12/25/2010 8:24:29 PM PST by EternalVigilance (We have no choice but to rebuild America from the foundations up. www.AIPNews.com)
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Pelosi! I knew it.

Obamacare's PELOSI (Palliative End of Life Optimum Serenity Initiative)

20 posted on 12/25/2010 8:27:05 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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