Posted on 12/23/2010 9:29:22 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
Senate Democrats are going to be working over the Christmas break to deliver a lump of coal to the American people in the form of a radical changing of the Senate's rules. This is a naked power grab by liberals in the Senate pure and simple.
The National Journal reports that Senate Democrats are laying the groundwork to chip away at the filibuster on January 5, 2011. They are going to push the idea that a simple majority of the Senate can abolish the filibuster rules, or radically change the rules, in a new Congress.
Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/filibuster/2010/12/23/senate-democrats-poised-power-grab#ixzz190FZDuFW
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What made you think that I believed otherwise?
I thought of the judges after I posted that. Yes, this is probably about packing the judiciary with liberals who will completely disregard the Constitution.
Sounds like the “Nuclear Option” which was proposed several years ago by Senate Republicans in order to get Bush judicial appointments confirmed.
We got it part way right in '10. Now, we can make the proctologists proud in '12.
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Quite a while back, Russ L. said that if you wanted to see where Obaba and the Dems would try to take the USA, just look at Chavez and Ven.
Seemed absurd at the time.
Not so, now.
Changing old rules that have been around for a long time, should be done with a lot of thought and wisdom. Those rules are there for a reason and have worked fairly well for many years.
EVERY TIME we consider a rules change, it must be done with the idea that the opposition will get the advantage when they are in power. If we can live with that, then it may be a sound change. In this instance, I am convinced it wouldn’t be.
I am surprised that Levin thought differently at one point.
All the more reason to elect conservative senators in 2012.
I was responding to someone who claimed the new GOP majority in the House would not go along with what the Senate wants if it unfairly changes the rules this way. I think that is far-fetched. The House will bluster, perhaps, but ultimately the Dems will get their way, and GOP voters will perhaps get some pork thrown their way.
The House has nothing to say about Senate rules.
Nor has it anything to do with confirmation of judges or approval of treaties.
But it dows have the power of the purse...
No law they pass will get through the House next year.
I responded that I doubted the GOP in the House would stand firm on something like that. They might say they would hold up legislation from the Senate, but they would not really do it.
Is my point clear now?
All we will hear about when the dems are once in again (God willing) in the minority, is how important increased minority rights are and how we need the filibuster.
They are chronic liars and deceivers, changing the rules as it suits them, and the republicans are stooopid enough to go along with them.
First came the tea parties. Then came the tar and feather parties. I am not advocating violence. I am advocating that we find ways to tar those who trample the Constitution and the will of the people and decorate them with feathers of shame.
And it may come back to bite them in the butt.
If the 'Rats eliminate the filibuster, making for a majority rule on every issue, how hard will it be for McConnell to separate four 'Rat Senators? Especially, since 23 of them are up for re-election in '12, twelve of themin red states.
That's assuming, of course, that he can keep the likes of Snowe, Collins and Brown in line...
If the Rats change the rules to suit them and then the GOP changes them back in order to “protect the minority”, I will personally go to Washington to kick both my senators asses.
My mistake. I should have been addressing who you were, yourself, responding to.
The House should recognize that the Senate's rules are irrelevant. If they pass a good bill, support it. If they pass a bad bill, defeat it.
There's no point of making an issue in the House about the Senate's rules -- anymore than you would expect the House's new rules to be an issue in the Senate.
Thanks, Dingy Harry & Upchuck Schumer, for the thoughtfulless gift.
You know what I would like? If in order to filibuster, you had to pull a Jimmy Stewart and REALLY talk for hours without a break. I’ve never liked the fact that you could filibuster just by threatening to.
Remember that we WILL take the Senate again, and when we do, you know the Dims won’t be able to filibuster for real. Whereas we’ve got the gumption to keep it going, just like Jimmy in Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.
“There are still plenty of RINOs who didn’t come up for re-election this year. They’ll cave to the RATS and we’ll have all three branches destroying the nation.”
I get that there are still lots of RINOS, but we have a much more conservative GOP Senate caucus coming in. Is it not true they need 67 to change the rules? If Mcconnel can’t keep 14 GOP senators in the new Senate from defecting, he needs to step down.
It was supposed to be harder to get bills through the senate. The Senate was intended to be a quorum of representatives of the several States, not replicas of House members, a moderating influence on the popular passions of a given time. Democrats of course would love to just eliminate the Senate altogether, as an anachronistic remnant of a dead federalism.
This fight has been going on since the first, btw, when the House demanded to be able to review and vote on treaties. Washington himself had to stand in the way and defend the constitution, almost from the very outset.
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