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Senate Democrats Poised for Power Grab
Fox News ^ | 23 Dec 2010 | N/A

Posted on 12/23/2010 9:29:22 PM PST by Jet Jaguar

Senate Democrats are going to be working over the Christmas break to deliver a lump of coal to the American people in the form of a radical changing of the Senate's rules. This is a naked power grab by liberals in the Senate pure and simple.

The National Journal reports that Senate Democrats are laying the groundwork to chip away at the filibuster on January 5, 2011. They are going to push the idea that a simple majority of the Senate can abolish the filibuster rules, or radically change the rules, in a new Congress.

Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/filibuster/2010/12/23/senate-democrats-poised-power-grab#ixzz190FZDuFW

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; 20110105; communists; congress; democrats; fillibuster; harryreid; rats; reid; senate; tomudall; udall; ussenate
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1 posted on 12/23/2010 9:29:23 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

THEY are really asking for it, aren’t they....


2 posted on 12/23/2010 9:35:03 PM PST by goodnesswins (You deciding how to spend your health care $, thatÂ’s freedom. Govt deciding, thats a death panel)
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To: neverdem; LucyT; Nachum

ping.


3 posted on 12/23/2010 9:35:35 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

Fire up the tar kettle and grab the feathers. They’re giving the one finger salute to The People.


4 posted on 12/23/2010 9:37:34 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

so why can’t the GOP return the favor in the House?


5 posted on 12/23/2010 9:37:34 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Jet Jaguar

You live in a police state like Venzuela thanks, in large part, to drooling idiots who support TV and Hollywood which keeps hussein and the liberal fascists in power.


6 posted on 12/23/2010 9:37:51 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: Jet Jaguar

Linked at your Fox Article:
Senate Democrats Poised for Power Grab = RedState article


7 posted on 12/23/2010 9:39:49 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

If they get this done, and if the Republicans take the Senate in ‘12, look for the Dems to change the filibuster rule back right before the Republicans take over. Just watch.


8 posted on 12/23/2010 9:41:53 PM PST by Ranald S. MacKenzie (It's the philosophy, stupid.)
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To: onyx

Thanks.


9 posted on 12/23/2010 9:42:51 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: goodnesswins

I call BS. With a GOP controlled House, they would be cutting their own throats if a simple majority could end filibuster and bring bills to a vote. But then, this is probably about putting as many liberal, constitution hating judges in place before Obastard is thrown out on his ear.


10 posted on 12/23/2010 9:42:54 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

It’s a real shame they hate their own country so much.


11 posted on 12/23/2010 9:43:44 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

There is no such thing as a filibuster in the House. Never has been.


12 posted on 12/23/2010 9:44:12 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

No law they pass will get through the House next year.

And their hold on the Senate (so far) going in to the 2012 election is shakey.

These rule changes could come back to haunt them.


13 posted on 12/23/2010 9:44:41 PM PST by Tzimisce (It's just another day in Obamaland.)
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To: everyone; Windflier

Senate Democrats are going to be working over the Christmas break to deliver a lump of coal to the American people in the form of a radical changing of the Senate’s rules.  This is a naked power grab by liberals in the Senate pure and simple. 

The National Journal reports that Senate Democrats are laying the groundwork to chip away at the filibuster on January 5, 2011.  They are going to push the idea that a simple majority of the Senate can abolish the filibuster rules, or radically change the rules, in a new Congress. 

All Democratic senators returning next year have signed a letter to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., urging him to consider action to change long-sacrosanct filibuster rules.  The letter, delivered this week, expresses general frustration with what Democrats consider unprecedented obstruction and asks Reid to take steps to end those abuses. While it does not urge a specific solution, Democrats said it demonstrates increased backing in the majority for a proposal, championed by Sen. Tom Udall, D-N.M., and others, to weaken the minority’s ability to tie the Senate calendar into parliamentary knots.

They are angry that they could not railroad through the Senate legislation imposing Card Check, a Public Option for ObamaCare and Climate Change.  Now it is pay back time. 

These liberals intend on making it harder for Republicans to participate in the legislative process. They are also setting the table to make it easier to sieze control of the Supreme Court if any of the conservative leaning members decide to retire. 

Republicans would be smart to fire back with a proposed rule to abolish the Senate Majority Leader’s power to block amendments to bills, create at 2/3rds supermajority before 2nd Amendment rights can be infringed and a 2/3rds supermajority before increasing the debt limit.  If Democrats want to change the rules with a simple majority, conservatives have the power to fire back with a series of new Senate rules to make it harder for liberals to expand government.  It is clear that many liberals have not gamed out the consequences of this radical idea.

CONTINUE READING HERE


14 posted on 12/23/2010 9:44:42 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

This has to stop and they just keep getting away with subverting the constitution.


15 posted on 12/23/2010 9:44:50 PM PST by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

So maybe it’s time to introduce a new tradition?


16 posted on 12/23/2010 9:45:47 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Jet Jaguar

17 posted on 12/23/2010 9:47:46 PM PST by garjog
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To: goodnesswins

THEY are really asking for it, aren’t they

And with our GOP leadership, they’ll get it. They bury us one shovelful at a time. How long before we realize we have one chance to retain our Republic?


18 posted on 12/23/2010 9:52:03 PM PST by gunner03
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To: HiTech RedNeck

No, if they insist on eliminating the filibuster, it will make undoing bad Rat laws that much easier when we have a GOP majority. (Assuming we can get rid of about 5 or 6 RINOs)


19 posted on 12/23/2010 9:53:47 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

This seems like it will totally backfire. We run the house now. They can’t just originate spending bills and with out the House, they won’t have the dough to support their legislation.

The more likely scenario is McConnell peeling off a couple Rats to pass House bills and making Obummer look like the obstructor as the vetoes start.


20 posted on 12/23/2010 9:57:25 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yes it is.

JAIL.


21 posted on 12/23/2010 9:59:09 PM PST by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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To: Lazlo in PA

It’s the judges that they want to confirm, they don’t need the House for that. Up to and including the SCOTUS judges


22 posted on 12/23/2010 9:59:33 PM PST by SonofReagan
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To: SonofReagan

Can’t the House really get “nucular” and refuse to fund THAT process?


23 posted on 12/23/2010 10:02:17 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Jet Jaguar

You mean the “Constitutional Option” when it comes to assenting to judges on which the repubics caved when they held the majority lest the Enemy do it to them?? That one???


24 posted on 12/23/2010 10:04:37 PM PST by Postman (112th)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Harry Reid had to cheat to win; his boy shuts off power and counts reset.

It’s disgusting to look at him… words aren’t enough


25 posted on 12/23/2010 10:04:45 PM PST by Java4Jay
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To: Frantzie

*You live in a police state like Venzuela thanks, in large part, to drooling idiots who support TV and Hollywood which keeps hussein and the liberal fascists in power.*

You’re a one trick pony whose boring repetition ruins whatever message you’re trying to get across.


26 posted on 12/23/2010 10:05:46 PM PST by j-damn
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To: j-damn
You’re a one trick pony whose boring repetition ruins whatever message you’re trying to get across.

Yes, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.
27 posted on 12/23/2010 10:10:40 PM PST by beezdotcom
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To: Jet Jaguar

So, where’s that gang of 14 now??


28 posted on 12/23/2010 10:13:22 PM PST by Bush_Democrat ((Ex-Dem since 2001 *Folding@Home for the Gipper - Join the FReeper Folders*))
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yep, it is all about packing the Judiciary.


29 posted on 12/23/2010 10:22:47 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012: don't retreat, just reload)
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To: Jet Jaguar

This is the best thing that could ever happen to us. We own the house. Anything that passes the house in it’s current Republican form could get enough Republicans to pass colture in the Senate as well. Republicans take the Senate in 2012 and they don’t reinforce the old rules, and then it’s goodbye OCare!


30 posted on 12/23/2010 10:25:51 PM PST by Almondjoy
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To: Jet Jaguar

I’ll refrain from commenting what I really think, except to say that a day may be coming to make a very physical example of some of these criminals.


31 posted on 12/23/2010 10:26:31 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: NonValueAdded

Supreme Court is the only one that truely matters.


32 posted on 12/23/2010 10:27:53 PM PST by Almondjoy
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To: Jet Jaguar; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; GQuagmire; wintertime; Fred Nerks; null and void; ...
Senate Democrats Poised for Power Grab

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33 posted on 12/23/2010 10:28:23 PM PST by LucyT
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Now that we will have control in the House, why would we want a filibuster rule in the House which would only benefit the Rats?


34 posted on 12/23/2010 10:32:47 PM PST by TNTNT
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To: HiTech RedNeck

We don’t want anybody doing this because we don’t know who will be in the majority in four or eight or twelve years. Leave the checks and balances in place. They work and they are one of the few remaining reasons we remain a republic.


35 posted on 12/23/2010 10:32:51 PM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Let ‘em. Chances are, Republicans take the Senate and the White House in 2012 and then just watch these people whine and pout when we do the same and cite the precedent that the Dems did it first.

I rather doubt the Dems want to give that up just for 24 months of partial government control. It might get some of their judges passed and other commies confirmed but there will be tremendous hell to pay in 2013 and they won’t have Senate “rules” to fall back on once they abandon them themselves.

Democrats are evil but they’re not stupid. I doubt they do this.


36 posted on 12/23/2010 10:33:54 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
So maybe it’s time to introduce a new tradition?

I've got an idea...

"Being necessary for the security of a FREE STATE,..."

37 posted on 12/23/2010 10:34:56 PM PST by meyer (Obama - the Schwartz is with him.)
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To: TNTNT

Humm, I guess I should have said make darn sure there won’t ever be such a thing as a House filibuster.


38 posted on 12/23/2010 10:35:07 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: onyx

Yes, push back with rule changes. why not a super-majority to raise taxes?


39 posted on 12/23/2010 10:38:13 PM PST by WOSG (Carpe Diem)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Thanks Nevada! /s


40 posted on 12/23/2010 10:40:08 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Go for it. There will be a Republican Senate in 2 years.


41 posted on 12/23/2010 10:41:44 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: Jet Jaguar
Big deal. Won't help them at all. The House will stop anything they start.

*And* it will destroy the Senate in terms of being more deliberate than the House, seriously weakening it in the overall scheme.

Shit dawg, go for it, losers.

42 posted on 12/23/2010 10:45:38 PM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Lazamataz


43 posted on 12/23/2010 10:47:09 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: Lazamataz
The House will stop anything they start.

What has already been passed in the house that they want to push through in the Senate? Are there not a few bills floating around that need only Senate approval?

44 posted on 12/23/2010 10:49:11 PM PST by meyer (Obama - the Schwartz is with him.)
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To: meyer

I believe you can do some judge-confirming stuff in the Senate only, but I’m betting our Supreme Court guys are hanging on by their fingernails after THIS president. Bet ya no one retires, or even DIES. lol


45 posted on 12/23/2010 10:52:34 PM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

The Democrats play political hardball all the time, every time. They live for this. This is their whole life in the public sector. This is their idea of war.

The damned Republicans had better start understanding this.


46 posted on 12/23/2010 11:00:01 PM PST by headstamp 2 ("My Boss is a Jewish Carpenter")
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To: Jet Jaguar

The best way to actually see a Marxist for what they are is very simple test.

The Ends Justify the Means.

Well, problem is that once this becomes the rules of the street game then no process will matter.

This will become a naked race for totalitarian power that may initiate violent conflict.

Might will make right, no process will have any meaning whatsoever, and America will have devolved into a 3rd world dictatorship.

Forget any thought of a Constitutional form of Government.


47 posted on 12/23/2010 11:01:28 PM PST by R0CK3T
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To: Lazamataz

> Big deal. Won’t help them at all. The House will stop anything they start.

Actually, this may be beneficial for Republicans. There are 20 or so Democratic Senators due for a re-election in 2012. Republicans need only 5 of those to win votes, if filibuster rules are not in effect. Also, a potential Republican majority in 2012 will not have to worry about filibusters if Democrats are helpful enough to eliminate them now.


48 posted on 12/23/2010 11:29:37 PM PST by bluejay
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Sorry, but the House has no control over Senate rules. The reverse is also true.


49 posted on 12/23/2010 11:45:00 PM PST by rawhide
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To: JoeProBono

I like the image you posted. Thanks and Merry Christmas to you and all!


50 posted on 12/23/2010 11:47:30 PM PST by rawhide
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