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Woman Arrested at ABIA After Refusing Enhanced Pat Down (Rape Victim)
KVUE ^ | 12/22/2010 | KVUE

Posted on 12/23/2010 9:21:21 PM PST by Dallas59

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To: Dallas59
She says she never broke any laws. But the Transportation Security Administration disagrees.

Show me the law, Mr. TSA agent. Full citation, please.

21 posted on 12/23/2010 10:09:46 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: coloradan

This TSA buffalo yack will continue until one of these cases actually gets to court.


22 posted on 12/23/2010 10:11:00 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Dallas59

Napolitano needs to be placed in public stocks of old. I think there are a LOT of us freedom-loving Americans who’d love a chance to throw rotten tomatoes at her.


23 posted on 12/23/2010 10:13:10 PM PST by Yaelle (Merry Christmas, everyone!)
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To: Dallas59

I do not understand why the TSA uses TADAR.Tadar system uses millimetre-waves to detect and identify suspicious objects hidden under clothing. It is named after the Brazilian Tadarida bat as it uses waves to detect and identify objects hidden under clothing in the same way that the bat uses high-frequency signals to navigate and locate insect prey in the dark.


24 posted on 12/23/2010 10:17:45 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That, or they start getting their *sses stomped into greasy spots.


25 posted on 12/23/2010 10:19:37 PM PST by rickb308 (Nothing good ever came from someone yelling Allah Snackbar)
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To: Lumper20
How much cheaper would a National ID be for many of us with proven histories plus prior TS Nuclear clearances and even SCI?

Idunno. Whats the going rate for liberty on eBay?

26 posted on 12/23/2010 10:23:41 PM PST by the invisib1e hand ("Three hostile newspapers are more to be feared than 200 swords" - Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: Beowulf9

And we talk about the German people “letting” Hitler assume power and control!!!


27 posted on 12/23/2010 10:24:14 PM PST by SootyFoot2
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To: the invisib1e hand

You cannot be that out of touch? You never served? Never had a security clearance for any job? You never had a local check with the police for a job? Please!


28 posted on 12/23/2010 10:34:32 PM PST by Lumper20
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To: Dallas59
first they came for the insulated cups..
29 posted on 12/23/2010 10:38:19 PM PST by the invisib1e hand ("Three hostile newspapers are more to be feared than 200 swords" - Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: Lumper20

WTF are you on about? You might get the idea eventually. Next life, perhaps.


30 posted on 12/23/2010 10:40:12 PM PST by the invisib1e hand ("Three hostile newspapers are more to be feared than 200 swords" - Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

Are bombs a real threat? You’d never know it from the TSA; they make a point out of clustering airline travelers, WITH LUGGAGE, into a bomb-friendly kill zone just before the “security” checkpoint. Could they arrange the queues into a less clustered shape, could they move the screening equipment into smaller clusters (so that any individual line for screening has fewer people), could they put up solid barriers in the queue to reduce the damage one bomber could do? Of course they could ... but the TSA chooses to arrange things in a manner that would maximize the number of casualties were a terrorist to detonate a bomb before the “security” screening area.

If bombs really are a problem, are there there safer bomb detection systems? Sure. TADAR might be one. Dogs might be another. Electronic “sniffers” of various types are another. Out of all those, however, the TSA chose to deploy a technology that emits ionizing radiation, and thus has at least some chance of slowly killing (via cancer) those who are screened.

I think that people’s motivation can generally better be determined by what they do rather than what they say. The TSA says it’s trying to increase safety. It’s choices, however, consistently favor an approach that is more likely to be lethal to the travelers, rather than an approach that is more likely to be safe. Those choices, not their empty words, reveal the real motivation of Ms. Napolitano and the TSA.

Once you see Ms. Napolitano’s real motivation, then the reason for failure to deploy TADAR, or other millimeter wave scanning, or to allow pilots to be armed, or to implement pre-airport screening (”trusted traveler”) becomes obvious. Failure to deploy TADAR is exactly to be expected.


31 posted on 12/23/2010 10:53:51 PM PST by Jubal Harshaw
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To: wintertime

Trust me, a box of chiclets in your front pocket is an automatic pat down! Ask me how I know!


32 posted on 12/23/2010 11:17:47 PM PST by USAFJeeper (Who Dat Nation - Loving the Manning Face!)
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To: Dallas59
Why was she arrested?

She could opt out completely and go home, that is her right. Was she arrested because she refused the enhanced pat-down? Why did the goons not tell her to just go home?

33 posted on 12/23/2010 11:55:34 PM PST by rawhide
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To: Kirkwood

Exactly. Nothing but a bunch of sheep “feeling safer”. Disgusting.


34 posted on 12/23/2010 11:58:25 PM PST by Roberts
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To: rawhide

If you refuse the pat down and decide to leave you’ll be arrested. Once you’re to that point you “MUST” allow them to do their job. Nice, huh.


35 posted on 12/24/2010 12:00:28 AM PST by Terry Mross ( Reagan made one mistake: He chose Bush as his veep. We've been paying for it ever since.)
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To: coloradan

They make their own laws. Just as you MUST show a cop your papers when asked, without reason, you have to submit to whatever they “ask” you to do at the airport.

I hope I live long enough to see the people rise up about this. We should all at least stop flying. I’m in the process of trying to get a refund because I will not fly again. If I forfeit the money, so be it.


36 posted on 12/24/2010 12:03:15 AM PST by Terry Mross ( Reagan made one mistake: He chose Bush as his veep. We've been paying for it ever since.)
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To: Terry Mross
From the article:

An ABIA spokesman says it is TSA policy that anyone activating a security alarm has two options. One is to opt out and not fly, and the other option is to subject themselves to an enhanced pat down. Hirschkind refused both and was arrested.

She has the right to refuse the enhanced pat-down and go home without being arrested. She refused to go home it appears. I am not sure what she was charged with though?

37 posted on 12/24/2010 12:24:16 AM PST by rawhide
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To: Terry Mross

>> If you refuse the pat down and decide to leave you’ll be arrested. Once you’re to that point you “MUST” allow them to do their job. Nice, huh.

There is something seriously wrong with that policy you described. It’s not your description, but the reality of the practice.

Air travel is off the radar for as long as the ‘police state’ practices remain.

/bloviating-on

The direction this regime has taken the Country is truly obscene. And to know that many Republicans have signed on to this path of destruction is mind boggling. We’ve been had by a very dark and nefarious clique of operators.

I realize many good men and women are risking their welfare daily in order to secure our mutual freedoms, but procedures and policies laid out by the executives is, in my opinion, in conflict with the spirit of the Constitution - that thing to which we’ve anchored our patriotic heart and mind.

The apparency of closure between my Faith in Christ and the Foundings of this Nation is clearer each day as we continue in the approach to authoritarianistic rule; the Liberties provided by our Fathers are indeed inseparable from the truths of our Judeo-Christianity.

/bloviating-off


38 posted on 12/24/2010 12:35:11 AM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Gene Eric

Sheep are still flying. Why should they stop?


39 posted on 12/24/2010 1:02:12 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: dagogo redux

And the objections subsided.


40 posted on 12/24/2010 1:05:20 AM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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