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Liberalism: An Autopsy
Wall St Journal ^ | dec 4, 2010 | EMMETT TYRRELL JR.

Posted on 12/04/2010 1:41:35 AM PST by The Raven

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Liberalism's decline might appear, at first glance, to have begun with the 1961 inauguration of President John F. Kennedy—when historians noted the first glimmerings of what was to become liberalism's distinctive trait, overreach. Kennedy's soaring oratory was infectious and admirable and even impressed a later generation of conservatives. But it was a bit dishonest. There never was a missile gap with the Soviet Union, as he claimed, or any other cause for histrionics. On the domestic side, the oratory set in motion President Lyndon Johnson's catastrophic War on Poverty.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News
KEYWORDS: democrats; fail; liberalfascism; liberalism; liberalprogressivism; liberals; progressives
The problem for liberals is they have been denied a cynosure. Some had looked to the British Fabian Socialists and some to Karl Marx, but since the late 1940s liberals became coy about their intellectual mentors.

There ideology is NEVER ENOUGH.....ask a liberal when they are finished spending money and they won't commit....

1 posted on 12/04/2010 1:41:37 AM PST by The Raven
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To: The Raven
But it was a bit dishonest. There never was a missile gap with the Soviet Union, as he claimed, or any other cause for histrionics. On the domestic side, the oratory set in motion President Lyndon Johnson's catastrophic War on Poverty.

As history will show, the lies from the liberal JFK/LBJ start have grown bigger and bigger.

To prove that is true, it's necessary to first show that LBJ killed Kennedy in a coup that was necessary because LBJ was headed for jail for his many crimes. Once you understand that is true, it's relatively simple to see how the liberals have maneuvered into the position they are in today. Any lie can be told to Americans as they can no longer think independently. Convince the press and you control the country.

2 posted on 12/04/2010 2:20:37 AM PST by politicianslie (A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders)
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To: The Raven
Sorry, but this article is complete horseshit. Liberalism, far from being dead, is the law of the land. Not only is it statutory law, but it is constantly reinforced by judicial and bureaucratic decisions. Also, call it a historical accident if you like, but just two years ago the most liberal president in history was elected by a wide margin. I don't need to hear that he was a cipher and nobody knew what he stood for. Bull. We all knew what he stood for. Liberalism is on the march right now as we hear that they want to force homosexuality on our military. I can give more examples but I would be preaching to the choir. Emmett Tyrrell is smoking crack if he thinks that liberalism is dead. Even the Democrat Party, which took such a beating, is far from dead.

You'd have to be a credulous moron to believe this kind of pablum.

3 posted on 12/04/2010 2:45:29 AM PST by Batrachian (Barack Obama was elected because people thought they where voting on American Idol)
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To: Batrachian

As long as there is a left wing media there will be a left wing. My assertion is the only way to destroy liberalism in this country is to put the media under direct attack. And that starts with having the cajones to do it rather than talk about it.


4 posted on 12/04/2010 2:58:25 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Remember March 23, 1775. Remember March 23, 2010)
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To: Batrachian
I totally agree with you; Kennedy didn't mark the beginning of the "decline" in liberalism, it marked the beginning of the rise of liberalism.

America is drowning in liberalism and political correctness, with very few floatation devices in sight.

We thought the Boehner crew might straighten out a few things, but the word "Compromise" seems to be their new slogan. After being sent to DC to get RID OF OBAMACARE, they are already wanting to just "modify" it.

But there is one concept I think the GOP had better warm up to, and I think this will be their last shot at governance unless they start to walk their talk pretty soon.

To be fair, I know they don't take power until January, but with both sides trying to run out the clock on the tax cuts, I don't hear a lot from the GOP that grabs my attention...nothing positive anyway...just talk.

"Liberalism" has taken on a lot of new meanings since Kennedy; it's totally about "entitlements" aka "vote buying", class warfare, and political correctness. It's all about a totalitarian government who micro-manages our daily lives and confiscates most of our wealth for redistribution aka "vote buying".

Where there were no laws passed for the liberal agenda, the Federal and district judges legislate from the bench, and instead of interpreting the Constitution, they are confusing it with the Charmin.

I hope upon hope that the Americans who stood up and voted in November don't fall back into their vibrating recliners and TRUST the new GOP to fix it all - they don't have the best track record for that type of thing. As the saying goes, the GOP seems to be expert in "grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory".

I fear that if the new GOP gang lets us down again, it will be the end of GOP rule and a new party of Conservatives will rise up and take over the day. The RINO wing of the GOP - the "blue bloods" - seem to either be democrat-lites, or just don't want the 200 years of status-quo disturbed...but it NEEDS to be disturbed.

These newbies need to have the telephones melted off their desks from the heat of constitutents calling 24 and 7 if they don't perform as elected. We have no time for stalling and fancy procedeural tricks, we want it fixed, and soon.

But if they start wincing from the left calling them "mean", or the "party of no", etc., then they are not the men and women they pretended to be at the podium...they are just more mccainbots or romneybots.

All I can say is Americans are pretty pissed off right now, and tired of the bullshit. It will stop or we should be standing on their desks - en masse - demanding to know why.

The TEA party movement's job is NOT OVER - it has only just begun. We let these newbies in the gate, now we must ride herd on them everyday to remind them WHO gave them their jobs...it certainly wasn't obama or the liberals.

The Washington liberals are seriously wounded, and a wounded animal is the most dangerous...they need to be put out of their misery and abolished from the American leadership forever. Liberalism and America are not mutually conducive to freedom.

Call your rep today.
5 posted on 12/04/2010 3:04:31 AM PST by FrankR (Don't let the bastards wear you down!)
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To: FrankR
When some of the new Tea Party representatives spoke of not raising the debt ceiling, Boehner's response was that they should "be adults about this". That by itself tells me all I need to know about the Republican Party, or at least the leadership, which is what counts. Big conservatives on the campaign trail but smarmy RINOs on the House and Senate floors is what they are.

Both parties represent different faces of the status quo, and unfortunately that status quo represents death for our nation. It's no joke when we hear that there is a stupid party and an evil party, but stupid and evil does not make for good leadership.

Never mind China, we're going to get passed by Brazil and India at this rate. How can you have hope in a nation that elected Barack Obama?

6 posted on 12/04/2010 3:33:08 AM PST by Batrachian (Barack Obama was elected because people thought they where voting on American Idol)
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To: All
True liberalism, which Jefferson championed, died a long time ago. Liberalism used to be about liberty (thus the name ) and freedom. The word got twisted to mean the exact opposite. It is the ideology of sacrificing of personal freedom for collectivism and big government control.

Libertarians are the "true liberals". Their ideas of personal responsibility in regards to "consensual crimes" (let adults be adults without a nanny state) and foreign policy isolationism (cut the rest of the world loose of the U.S. tit) are too complex for the mass majority to understand and much less embrace.

Liberalism is dead. Your choice is National Socialism, that the Democrats champion or State Capitalism that the Republicans champion. Both roads lead to government control.
7 posted on 12/04/2010 3:52:51 AM PST by j_k_l
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To: Batrachian; The Raven
Liberalism, far from being dead, is the law of the land.

Absolutely! We are in a battle to take BACK our country; from judges who overrule voters with trumped up rulings, politicians who say they're for conservative values yet vote contrary to those values, and from the MSM who will do anything to shut down those who would present the other side. We need to spot the enemies and infiltrators, and change the game; not roll over and pretend it's gone away. We need to recognize that 2010 was only a beginning of a long journey.

8 posted on 12/04/2010 4:05:58 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: Batrachian

I agree it is far from dead, but it’s intent has been exposed.

However, they are already spinning in their predictable fashion.

Class warfare from dawn until dusk.


9 posted on 12/04/2010 4:24:23 AM PST by dforest
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To: The Raven

Liberals, once again, believed that conservatism was dead and that Americans want bigger goverment. It was the alternative media and the Tea Party that has temporarily stopped liberals in two short years.

Remember, FDR had over a decade to impose socialism because he had a compliant media on his side while conservatives were not united (no internet, no alternative media).


10 posted on 12/04/2010 4:44:14 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Batrachian
How can you have hope in a nation that elected Barack Obama?

Among your several good posts on this thread, you have captured the essence of the problem with modern day America - too many of our countrymen are willing to sell all of us into slavery because of their utopian world view.

11 posted on 12/04/2010 5:59:39 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire')
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To: The Raven

“As a political movement liberalism is dead. They do not have the numbers. They do not have the policies. They have 23 seats in the Senate to defend in 2012 (against the Republicans’ 10) and Republican control of state houses and legislatures will give them even more seats in the future. Liberalism R.I.P.”

Never underestimate the Fabian treachery of elitists and globalists within the GOP.

Like my tag line says . . .

Nevertheless, a very good article.


12 posted on 12/04/2010 6:19:08 AM PST by Psalm 144 (The GOP nomenklatura - Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: Hardastarboard; Batrachian

Among your several good posts on this thread, you have captured the essence of the problem with modern day America - too many of our countrymen are willing to sell all of us into slavery because of their utopian world view.

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Until the education racket is brought to heel, and I mean hard, we will be fighting an uphill battle on this front.


13 posted on 12/04/2010 6:21:42 AM PST by Psalm 144 (The GOP nomenklatura - Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: Batrachian
I agree with most of what you've posted here. Anyone who think liberalism is dead just needs to browse through a bunch of threads right here on FreeRepublic -- and see how many conservatives are adamantly opposed to any attempts by the Federal government to curtail Social Security and Medicare spending.

Having said that, I'd also point out that "liberalism" as the political philosophy we know it really is dying in the United States . . . not because it's losing its appeal to the people of this country, but because it has bankrupted us and we can't afford it anymore. And if you have any doubts about this, just go and see how effective and popular New Jersey governor Chris Christie has become over the last ten months with his own big-mouthed, take-no-prisoners approach to fiscal matters in one of the most reliably liberal states in the U.S.

14 posted on 12/04/2010 6:40:41 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Batrachian

Thank you!


15 posted on 12/04/2010 7:02:07 AM PST by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: Batrachian

“How can you have hope in a nation that elected Barack Obama?”
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Alas, the combination of willful ignorance on the part of voters and election fraud which allowed the election of Obama is the real terror, not Obama himself. Obama did not get a single vote from a clear headed voter who was also an honest American. The only people who voted for him with understanding of what they were voting for were the crooks who expected to benefit from a gangster government. The rest were muddleheaded simpletons regardless of how many sheepskins they may have had on the wall.


16 posted on 12/04/2010 8:12:31 AM PST by RipSawyer
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To: The Raven
Ignorance of America's Constitutional principles, combined with lack of understanding of the distinction between the promises of liberalism (socialism in disguise) and the real-world consequences of socialism in practice, brought us to where we are today.

Perhaps an examination of this late-nineteenth century assessment of socialism might inform today's citizens.

From the Liberty Fund Library is "A Plea for Liberty: An Argument Against Socialism and Socialistic Legislation," edited by Thomas Mackay (1849 - 1912), Chapter 1, excerpted final paragraphs from Edward Stanley Robertson's essay:

"I have suggested that the scheme of Socialism is wholly incomplete unless it includes a power of restraining the increase of population, which power is so unwelcome to Englishmen that the very mention of it seems to require an apology. I have showed that in France, where restraints on multiplication have been adopted into the popular code of morals, there is discontent on the one hand at the slow rate of increase, while on the other, there is still a 'proletariat,' and Socialism is still a power in politics.
I.44
"I have put the question, how Socialism would treat the residuum of the working class and of all classes—the class, not specially vicious, nor even necessarily idle, but below the average in power of will and in steadiness of purpose. I have intimated that such persons, if they belong to the upper or middle classes, are kept straight by the fear of falling out of class, and in the working class by positive fear of want. But since Socialism purposes to eliminate the fear of want, and since under Socialism the hierarchy of classes will either not exist at all or be wholly transformed, there remains for such persons no motive at all except physical coercion. Are we to imprison or flog all the 'ne'er-do-wells'?
I.45
"I began this paper by pointing out that there are inequalities and anomalies in the material world, some of which, like the obliquity of the ecliptic and the consequent inequality of the day's length, cannot be redressed at all. Others, like the caprices of sunshine and rainfall in different climates, can be mitigated, but must on the whole be endured. I am very far from asserting that the inequalities and anomalies of human society are strictly parallel with those of material nature. I fully admit that we are under an obligation to control nature so far as we can. But I think I have shown that the Socialist scheme cannot be relied upon to control nature, because it refuses to obey her. Socialism attempts to vanquish nature by a front attack. Individualism, on the contrary, is the recognition, in social politics, that nature has a beneficent as well as a malignant side. The struggle for life provides for the various wants of the human race, in somewhat the same way as the climatic struggle of the elements provides for vegetable and animal life—imperfectly, that is, and in a manner strongly marked by inequalities and anomalies. By taking advantage of prevalent tendencies, it is possible to mitigate these anomalies and inequalities, but all experience shows that it is impossible to do away with them. All history, moreover, is the record of the triumph of Individualism over something which was virtually Socialism or Collectivism, though not called by that name. In early days, and even at this day under archaic civilisations, the note of social life is the absence of freedom. But under every progressive civilisation, freedom has made decisive strides—broadened down, as the poet says, from precedent to precedent. And it has been rightly and naturally so.
I.46
"Freedom is the most valuable of all human possessions, next after life itself. It is more valuable, in a manner, than even health. No human agency can secure health; but good laws, justly administered, can and do secure freedom. Freedom, indeed, is almost the only thing that law can secure. Law cannot secure equality, nor can it secure prosperity. In the direction of equality, all that law can do is to secure fair play, which is equality of rights but is not equality of conditions. In the direction of prosperity, all that law can do is to keep the road open. That is the Quintessence of Individualism, and it may fairly challenge comparison with that Quintessence of Socialism we have been discussing. Socialism, disguise it how we may, is the negation of Freedom. That it is so, and that it is also a scheme not capable of producing even material comfort in exchange for the abnegations of Freedom, I think the foregoing considerations amply prove."
EDWARD STANLEY ROBERTSON

17 posted on 12/04/2010 8:59:31 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: EQAndyBuzz
As long as there is a left wing media there will be a left wing. My assertion is the only way to destroy liberalism in this country is to put the media under direct attack. And that starts with having the cajones to do it rather than talk about it.

I've done my part to defund it. No TV, no cable (except for Internet access ONLY), no liberal rags, no newspapers. We almost never watch movies in the theater.

If you have cable TV, you are funding the left.

18 posted on 12/05/2010 6:08:25 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Disambiguator

Nope. I have 5 channels and one is local weather.


19 posted on 12/05/2010 9:05:27 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Remember March 23, 1775. Remember March 23, 2010)
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