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Handguns for 18-Year-Olds? (New York Times Masthead Editorial Gun Control Rant Alert)
New York Times ^ | 11/25/2010 | New York Times

Posted on 11/25/2010 10:49:09 PM PST by goldstategop

Finally, the gun lobby has filed two lawsuits in federal court in Lubbock, Tex., to compel the State of Texas to allow young people between the ages of 18 and 20 years old to buy handguns and carry them concealed in public places.

The first suit challenges the longstanding federal law prohibiting licensed gun dealers from selling handguns to anyone under 21 years old. The second case contests a Texas law setting 21 as the minimum age for carrying a concealed weapon.

As a legal matter, both lawsuits should fail. In its recent Second Amendment rulings, the Supreme Court struck down complete bans on handgun ownership, but explicitly left room for limits on gun ownership and possession by felons and the mentally ill, and other reasonable restrictions like Texas’ age limitations. The Supreme Court has said nothing to suggest that the Second Amendment requires Americans to allow armed teenagers in their communities.

Beyond the dubious legal claims, the idea that young individuals ages 18 to 20 have a constitutional right to buy weapons and carry them loaded and concealed in public is breathtakingly irresponsible.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 18yearolds; editorial; guncontrol; newyorktimes; nra; rkba; secondamendment
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Let's ask the New York Times liberals a question: why can 18 and 19 year olds be trusted to defend our country in the military but they can't be trusted to defend themselves in civilian life? Another gun control rant the country doesn't share.
1 posted on 11/25/2010 10:49:16 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

You only shoot people your liberal overlords tell you to shoot in foreign lands!

But don’t start getting uppity: you’re still an ignorant peasant here at home.


2 posted on 11/25/2010 10:51:39 PM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: goldstategop

More whining by the New York Times. Their rants are so predictable.


3 posted on 11/25/2010 10:56:50 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Defund National Peoples Radio!! Democrats are for free speech. Just not for you.)
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To: goldstategop

The author knows nothing about service. Neither does the NYT.


4 posted on 11/25/2010 10:58:55 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: goldstategop
Well, they can Vote in Marxist's like Obama and they can serve in the Military, so why not let them own a Handgun? Might as well let them drink and gamble while we're at it.

Hell, I owned a .22 Rifle when I was eight. Kept it in my bedroom closet with a box of ammo. Bought it off my older Brother for $25 after he got his 30.06.

We are living in a country full of pussies, no doubt about it.

5 posted on 11/25/2010 11:01:43 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Obama, Pelosi and Reid, the Axis of Fascism.)
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To: Gaffer

Liberals begin with the notion a gun is dangerous. They fail to comprehend the values of the person possessing the gun are more important than the gun in question. Guns don’t kill people; people kill people is a truism that has validity to it.


6 posted on 11/25/2010 11:03:05 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Why not? Its hilarious to find the New York Times declaring people - who by the way are the most liberal voting segment of the population - to be immature and irresponsible with guns. Let’s see; they are adult enough to be allowed to vote for Obummer but they are too young to be allowed in the vicinity of a gun! Liberal Logic 101.


7 posted on 11/25/2010 11:08:07 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

A friend of my wife recently found a gun in their home (hidden, they returned it to the old owners. Gramp’s old Winchester.) The friend said “I just didn’t feel safe with that gun in the house!”

I told my wife “I guess there are two types of folks. Those that don’t feel safe with a gun in the house, and those that don’t feel safe WITHOUT a gun in the house (and/or on their person).”


8 posted on 11/25/2010 11:12:59 PM PST by 21twelve ( You can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust ... another lost generation.)
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If liberals saw the second amendment the way they do sex education, all teenagers would be handed guns for free because kids are going to do it anyway.


9 posted on 11/25/2010 11:13:10 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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Yup. Teenagers can have sex by liberal logic but heaven forbid they even practice at the local shooting range!


10 posted on 11/25/2010 11:15:18 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Kind of cute how the author slides in the notion that a blanket restriction on all 18/19/20 year olds (many of whom are in the military) treating them as if they were felons, is reasonable. On the other hand, treating NY Times writers as felons seems to me to be reasonable.


11 posted on 11/25/2010 11:19:38 PM PST by donmeaker ("Get off my lawn." Clint Eastwood, Green Ford Torino)
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Let’s require New York Times editors to get clearance before they pen a stupid editorial.


12 posted on 11/25/2010 11:21:41 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Kickass Conservative
Hell, I owned a .22 Rifle when I was eight.

I bought my first handgun from a dealer (also the local
auto parts store) when I was 14. Ruger .22 Standard. $37.95.
No paperwork, no wait. Just passed it on to my stepdaughter.
Ah, the good old days.

13 posted on 11/25/2010 11:47:00 PM PST by CrazyIvan (What's "My Struggle" in Kenyan?)
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ruger???

everyone’s first gun should be a glenfield model 60.


14 posted on 11/25/2010 11:52:18 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: mamelukesabre; CrazyIvan

not counting the first shotgun...a single barrel 410...and a bbgun before that.


15 posted on 11/25/2010 11:53:30 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: goldstategop

The NY Times is clueless. After losing the House in 2010, they champion an issue that cost them the House in 1994.

Throw me into that briar patch!


16 posted on 11/25/2010 11:56:31 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: CrazyIvan
I'll have to assume you're an old Geezer like me. LOL

I'm in CA where the good old days are gone forever.

17 posted on 11/26/2010 12:01:15 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Obama, Pelosi and Reid, the Axis of Fascism.)
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To: goldstategop
..the rights of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. But indeed, they are infringed. Whole classes of arms are outright banned. An ice pick is a felony if it is found on your person in most states, a concealed knife is also a felony. The supposed logic is that these aren't arms, yet I'd challenge anyone to find a single example of a knife being thought of as something forbidden by the founding fathers.

Of course, if they nail you with a felony for carrying a knife, your guns are confiscated and you're forbidden from keeping one in your home. Which might be the entire reason behind such restrictions...

18 posted on 11/26/2010 12:06:32 AM PST by kingu (Favorite Sticker: Lost hope, and Obama took my change.)
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To: goldstategop

Did the NYT then come out and say they are against 18, 19 and 20 year olds serving in the military? Pretty sure they have to shoot guns.


19 posted on 11/26/2010 12:14:28 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: goldstategop

Why can they vote, but they’re denied a right to self defense?


20 posted on 11/26/2010 12:20:31 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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