It took him an awful long time to figure that out.
Posted on 09/26/2010 11:38:31 AM PDT by sickoflibs
Our third story tonight: this is the day health care reform began to take effect. There could have been a ribbon-cutting. There could have been a speech. There could have been a campaign event.
There could have been an emboldened progressive front energized by the miracle of the tangible beginning of the end of the insurance cartel`s stranglehold on this nation now striking back against the sheer, stark, screaming fraud that is the premise of Republican tax cuts for small business like Bechtel and Harris Casinos and “The Chicago Tribune,” or screaming at the laugh-out-loud hilarity of the opposition`s pledge to America with the defiant statement that the Democrats would now be scheduling one vote in each chamber for the Bush tax cuts for the rich and one vote in each chamber for the Obama tax cuts for the people.
Instead, no ribbon cutting, no presidential speech, no somebody celebrating the rollout of health care reform, no calling B.S. on small business, and no tax cut vote or votes until after the midterms.
Here with me now, as promised, the filmmaker behind the documentary works such as “SiCKO” and “Capitalism: A Love Story,” now out on DVD, Michael Moore.
Good to see you, sir.
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OLBERMANN: What happened? Where is the leadership? We need to buy some leaders somewhere.
MOORE: Yes, I know. This is ridiculous. We look ridiculous.
Our side looks — it`s — you know, I just — don`t you — don`t you some nights just want to — like on a day like this, just sit here and why don`t we just talk sports? Or just like — what more can you and I say about the idiots that are the captains of this ship? I mean, seriously. I mean, we are now watching the — what is going to happen in November happen.
OLBERMANN: Yes, it just happened today.
MOORE: It actually happened today.
OLBERMANN: This was it.
MOORE: So, I`m very willing to go back to that game where the Detroit Tigers, the pitcher had a perfect game.
OLBERMANN: Galarraga, yes.
MOORE: Yes, and talk about that. And you`d — just ignore these people.
But to answer your question, seriously, you know, there is a Progressive Caucus in the House that got close to 50 members. There is the Congressional Black Caucus, one of its members clearly stated what the tax cut, so-called, really means.
OLBERMANN: Right.
(CLIP)
MOORE: This is our only way to win on our side, is that we have to learn to instill this kind of fear in people?
OLBERMANN: No. But don`t you think that something could have been drawn from what the Republicans did in the first decade of this century? The idea that occasionally you have to throw a punch, that you cannot do four years of rope-a-dope and — or even two years of rope-a-dope and expect to be re-elected.
You have to stand for something. As wrong as the Republicans were, they sure stand for some things. They stand for the rich, against the poor, and in favor of wars, because you can spend a lot of money during a war.
MOORE: Right. And there`s something that`s attractive about that to many Americans.
OLBERMANN: Because it`s simple.
MOORE: It`s simple. But it —
OLBERMANN: I know what you mean. It`s eight words, and I go back and live my life.
MOORE: Most Americans don`t describe themselves as Democrats or Republicans. What they do like is someone who has the courage of their convictions. Sometimes, they`ll even vote for someone who they don`t really agree with everything he stands for, just because they want someone who is going to fight for something, stand up for something, and not do this kind of namby-pamby.
This whole thing — Harry Reid, seriously, I want to go down there tomorrow and tell him to drop and give me 20 right now. I`m serious. This guy, absolutely no backbone. You look at him. Who — it just — it`s so frustrating.
The last time I was on here with you, I offered to — I would go down to the White House, I would sleep on a cot in the basement. A dollar a year, all I want. My escort will want a dollar a year. But somebody has got to light a fire under these guys. Somebody has got to — I don`t know what part they don`t get.
If they`re afraid, like your earlier segment you said they`re afraid of the ads — they`re going to do ads against us.
OLBERMANN: The bully beats you up not whether you hit him back or not. The bully beats you up because he`s a bully. They`re going to run those ads whether there is a vote or not.
MOORE: We all were in grade school. Here`s the lesson we learned about the bully: the bully stops beating you up when you stand up to the bully. Why? Because you`re then too much work for the bully. The bully would rather go someplace else where it`s easier.
OLBERMANN: Let me ask you about the small businesses that are not, the small lie. The Speaker`s Office put out an e-mail on that story today, and quoted the story that we did here last night, which is nice. But I thought from a political point of view, that`s like a gift of 5,000 pounds of raw meat for even a milquetoast Democrat.
Where are they on this? Bechtel is a small business?
MOORE: No, I actually heard there — I think there was some kind — I read on the Internet Nancy Pelosi did sort of an honorable mention to you in a press release or something today, thanking you for that.
OLBERMANN: Don`t thank me. Do something.
MOORE: Right, because that was in such an incredible investigative piece what you did last night. It`s like the next day — it`s we`re back to the same old, same old, and we`re standing in a lumber yard with Republicans who are about to nail everyone to the cross when they take over in November.
OLBERMANN: And we`ve even got the Republicans saying they would like to take some — like seven aspects of the health care reform, which starts today, which could have been this huge national holiday that we`ve got it started — not done, but started. And Democrats are not campaigning on those seven points.
It`s like, we like these, so we`re going to keep them. Democrats are not saying, you know, we wrote that.
MOORE: The thing is don`t the Democrats understand that as much as they`re accused of being — that they`re in with Hollywood, that`s actually sometimes a good thing? They could actually turn to some people in Hollywood who would make ads for them, who would help them form the message?
For — when you`ve got Tom Hanks and George Clooney on your side, if you can`t figure out on how you can get the message out to the American people, it`s just —
OLBERMANN: Hanks, Clooney, Michael Moore, we have to stick to radio now.
MOORE: Their ads are going to defeat us. We better not — Well, it`s just — Look, OK, we`ve got six weeks left. How do we save the Democrats from themselves, because the Republicans taking over, the knife goes in even deeper at that point.
I know there are people saying, well, let the Democrats get their ass beat a little bit here, and that will make them wake up. I don`t know what is going to do it. I think only the people watching this are going to have to say, you know what, we`re just going to have to do this. The leaders — what do you do? When the leader doesn`t do it, you have to do it.
Everybody had one bad teacher in high school. And so if you wanted to do well in that class, you just had to sort of teach yourself.
OLBERMANN: Exactly.
MOORE: You want to get through it and go to college. This is what we have to do now in these next six weeks. But, geez, I feel bad for you. What do you do tomorrow on this show? I mean, how do you keep up without - -
OLBERMANN: I may read an entire James Thurber book. It`s Friday. We can get away with a lot on Friday.
MOORE: Starting at 9:30 tonight, over on NBC, we can watch “Outsource,” a comedy about sending thousands of jobs overseas. I think that`s a genius idea.
OLBERMANN: In hopes of continuing this show until Friday night, I`m going to pass on this.
MOORE: I`m not trying to get you kicked off. There`s a rule in broadcasting not to let me on live. Always tape in advance.
OLBERMANN: Like we worry about — they let me on live every night for seven and a half years.
MOORE: What could be worse?
OLBERMANN: They haven`t gotten me yet. You`re not going to destroy me, if I`m not going to destroy myself, for crying out loud. Tell me, the John Steinbeck Award for Commitment to Democratic Values. You`re getting this?
MOORE: That`s what I was informed.
OLBERMANN: I`m astonished when I say this.
MOORE: I was astonished. I was informed of this. There you go, John Steinbeck, nice, great, thank you for the people at the Steinbeck Center for this. And this wonderful Steinbeck Prize that I`ll be receiving.
OLBERMANN: It`s a cup of water. It`s cold and then there`s a mice with a man -brain attached to it. That`s a bad pun.
MOORE: We are living in a modern day “Grapes of Wrath.” Sadly, for so many of the people watching this right now who don`t know if they`re going to have a job next month, who don`t know how they`re going to pay the mortgage this week, these — for the Democrats to not understand — to not understand who they`re supposed to be fighting for —
OLBERMANN: Even if you lose the fight, the theater might actually get you re-elected. So what if you lose the fight, you fought for what was right.
MOORE: That`s right. Did you hear that? Harry Reid, are you listening?
OLBERMANN: Michael Moore, congratulations again on the John Steinbeck Award. And thanks as always for coming in and not destroying the show.
MOORE: Thank you. Thank you very much.
:MSNBC Keith Olbermann Countdown 9/23/2010 Full transcipt
It took him an awful long time to figure that out.
There won’t be any announcement of any takeover on election night. The media is not going to go through the humiliation of having to watch the Republicans celebrate. No, they will just do like they did in ‘04 when they tried to help Kerry win the election. Every state will be contested, too close to call or some other bullsh*t. Ever since Gore tried to steal the election in 2000, the media held the power of denying the Republicans their right to celebrate and they will do it again in November.
It's this absurd, arrogant, openly offensive idea that 'if you don't vote for the DUms you don't know what's good for you'. Chemsley, er, Kinsley went there earlier this week. I saw it from a Pelosi release last month. I heard it from Couric two months ago.
And I want to shove it back in their face the way Cagney shoved that grapefruit in Mae Clarke's mug.
I saw it, and thought they sounded like idiots. Moore can barely string two sentences together. When they started blaming the Republicans for the state of our country today, I just shook my head. Two idiots.
0bamacare is like Rosemary’s Baby, ought to be killed in its cradle but I fear the RINOs will just do what Rosemary did.
If these liberals/progressives feel bad now, wait till Obama starts caving next year.
Yes wait till he shows up in drag at the west wing.
its like watching a guy talking to the rubber walls in his room, and the walls actually are talking back...
Yes, I know. This is ridiculous. We look ridiculous. Our side looks -- it's -- you know, I just -- don't you -- don't you some nights just want to -- like on a day like this, just sit here and why don't we just talk sports? Or just like -- what more can you and I say about the idiots that are the captains of this ship? I mean, seriously. I mean, we are now watching the -- what is going to happen in November happen... But to answer your question, seriously, you know, there is a Progressive Caucus in the House that got close to 50 members. There is the Congressional Black Caucus, one of its members clearly stated what the tax cut, so-called, really means... This is our only way to win on our side, is that we have to learn to instill this kind of fear in people? ...Most Americans don't describe themselves as Democrats or Republicans. What they do like is someone who has the courage of their convictions. Sometimes, they'll even vote for someone who they don't really agree with everything he stands for, just because they want someone who is going to fight for something, stand up for something, and not do this kind of namby-pamby. This whole thing -- Harry Reid, seriously, I want to go down there tomorrow and tell him to drop and give me 20 right now. I'm serious. This guy, absolutely no backbone. You look at him. Who -- it just -- it's so frustrating. The last time I was on here with you, I offered to -- I would go down to the White House, I would sleep on a cot in the basement. A dollar a year, all I want. My escort will want a dollar a year. But somebody has got to light a fire under these guys. Somebody has got to -- I don't know what part they don't get. If they're afraid, like your earlier segment you said they're afraid of the ads -- they're going to do ads against us.Thanks sickoflibs.
Given his size, it wouldn’t be cocaine, heroin, oxys, or meth; pot would fit all the data.
When the GOP wins the house, where is it written that Boehner automatically becomes speaker?
I learned something from this post. I can’t read their words any more than I can watch them say it on tv.
Ever since my dad took me to see the 1974 movie ‘Hitler the Last 10 Days’ I have had a fascination watching how the bad guys react when the end is near. I loved the German movie 'Downfall' on the same topic. Watching the SS ‘Hope and Change’ ship sink with a camera on board is priceless.
Every night they try to give their liberal viewers false hope, Obama will save them.
I hate it when idiots meet!
I might consider turning on MSNBC if Olberdork and Maddow promised to carry out a mutual suicide pact on-air.
otherwise, never
They won’t vote on taxes because they are losing too many Democrats. So their new line is “we swear we will address taxes AFTER the election”. as in ? vote for us now, we swear that us Democrats will pass tax cuts.
What you are seeing now folks are the masses leaving Obama and the Democrats in droves in a large migration to those who want to retake America.... this ought to put some fear into the Democrats.
Your comment reminded me of a John Wayne move where he ‘spanks’ Maureen O’Hara’s character with a spatula or something....
Pictured Boehner spanking Pelosi with that gavel! Now that would make Americans stand up and cheer.
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