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What Obama and his supporters are really doing -- the truth
Various and thinking | 19 July 2010 | menemenetekelupharsin

Posted on 07/19/2010 9:50:37 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

The Obama Plan (with the aid of supporters/conspirators)

Many people have been wondering what the Obama administration with the help of certain members of congress and influential, Godless radicals around the world are doing to the United States. In this essay, it will be pointed out that more than likely a specific plan is in place to divide the nation, make an attempt to pull it back together, appear to be the hero in the process and eventually end up with an ultimate disaster and a lot of deaths instead of accomplishing the intended goal.

A lot of people in the nation are outraged (the anger is unprecedented) as they watch decisions made by this administration and/or actions/moves taken which appear to be to the detriment of the good of the nation and of the freedoms of the citizenry. Some knowledgeable individuals have informed the writer that all of the moves are deliberate and part of an overall plan. It appears that President Obama and the individuals in his inner circle which would include not only aforementioned radicals from U.S. history and fringe element members of Congress along with some foreign interests are deliberately trying to provoke those with a conservative, Godly mindset to commit some act of violence which would precipitate armed conflict within the nation between opposing groups and/or the government.

Comments he has made about the people clinging to the “…religion and their guns.”, his support of extremely liberal philosophy such as homosexuality, abortion, illegal immigration and Islam (and others) openly and arrogantly is enraging many in the U.S., even some who supported him in the presidential election. He has taken steps which are obviously and specifically anti-business and ultimately anti-good economy hurting some of the very people who have supported him with votes. He has openly blackmailed BP and has not allowed the corporation to quickly and efficiently stop the oil leak for political and financial gain by demanding they provide funds. He will then claim that HE was responsible for providing the funds and thus “buy” votes with BPs money.

He has on several occasions brought up amnesty for illegal aliens and talk is now he will try to legalize this group through the stroke of the pen instead of legislation in order to effect his will and create new voters for his party to the tune of nearly 30 million (yes, nearly 30 million illegals are actually in the nation – ask anyone who deals with the Hispanic population and they will tell you there are far more than are officially reported by the media, etc.). Why would he do this? Certain members of Congress are also bluntly advocating action/points of view which are precipitating not previously seen anger among many in the U.S. These stances would seem to be counterproductive to securing votes in the upcoming mid-term elections and even the next presidential election. And, neither the President nor his advocates seem to show any remorse about decisions made. Why?

It has been brought to the writer’s attention that this group of people WANTS conservative groups to rebel and commit an act of violence to play into a trap that is being set. They want states like Arizona and Texas to rebel and try to secede and AG Holder quickly stirs the pot every chance he gets.

They believe they can rally the nation to defeat these “radicals” who would be called all sorts of names (already beginning) and “unify” the nation once again under Obama’s leadership, making him a modern day “Abraham Lincoln.” Analogies to this effect have already been attempted earlier with some things that have been written. The Tea Party movement is at present being vilified and any other conservative or group of conservatives is immediately set upon and demonized when trying to establish a proper agenda based on right and wrong.

The solution to this entire problem is a massive uprising of the people to vote this Fall and in the presidential elections later to correct this situation. The nation must return to its moral foundation of Biblical teaching and vote correctly based on a knowledge of what is right. If we begin to fight each other, we will more than likely be subject to invasion by some foreign power and overwhelmed. I don’t think the group behind this mess plans on that and that is a fatal flaw to the entire process. If we have a civil war in this nation it will not be regional or racial. It will be nearly impossible to consistently determine who the enemy is because the war will be ideological and each neighbor has a different point of view. The potential for absolute disaster because of the preceding is tremendous if you think about it. It will almost be every man for himself – a truly horrible civil war situation which would lead to complete societal collapse.

More details could be provided, but this is enough to get the basic idea across. What a tragedy that it has come to this. Many older people are making comments about politics and government that this writer has never heard that generation make and it is truly frightening where we are headed. Americans better wake up and elect some real leaders with real moral backbone or face destruction. We must ourselves return to our moral roots or we will never elect moral people to lead us. May God help us all.

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KEYWORDS: masterplan; obama; provocation; revolution
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1 posted on 07/19/2010 9:50:41 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

It is literally and figuratively the 11th hour.

2 posted on 07/19/2010 9:51:38 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; shibumi

“and “unify” the nation once again under Obama’s leadership, making him a modern day “Abraham Lincoln.”

Yeah....and that worked out real well the first time.

Are we going to -forced- into “remaining loyal” to Fauxmessiah?

3 posted on 07/19/2010 9:55:20 PM PDT by Salamander (We are not who we are.)
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To: Salamander

I really believe he has the goal of provoking a fight among Americans and trying to resolve the conflict somehow and appear to be the great “unifier”. I really do think he is that crazy.

4 posted on 07/19/2010 9:58:49 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

When I recently heard three girls in their early teens using the F word in every sentence, I came to the conclusion that we’re lost. It’s going to take a mighty hard spanking for this country to even begin to seriously wake up and start back on the right track.

5 posted on 07/19/2010 9:59:26 PM PDT by unkus
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I really believe he has the goal of provoking a fight among Americans and trying to resolve the conflict somehow and appear to be the great “unifier”. I really do think he is that crazy.


6 posted on 07/19/2010 10:00:36 PM PDT by unkus
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Interesting thoughts/points.

Quite frankly, I'd like to see him try.

Can you say, Hello Thomas Jefferson!?

If he bites off more than he can chew and consequently chokes on it, its nobody's fault but his own.
7 posted on 07/19/2010 10:02:26 PM PDT by Fichori ('Wee-Weed Up' pitchfork wielding neolithic caveman villager with lit torch. Any questions?)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

We have more firearms and know how to use them.

8 posted on 07/19/2010 10:04:34 PM PDT by skookum55 (A natural-born US citizen since 1955.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I’ve believed that was his purpose [at least the conflict part] since way before he got elected.

He [and the whole demo party] is just playing on the pre-existing tension that’s been building for years.

That’s why he wound up the nominee instead of Hillary.

His “color” makes him absolutely, positively Teflon-coated.

It’s only been a a year and a half and he’s already brought the country to its knees but none dare condemn his ineptitude lest they be labeled “racist” so they finally found their perfect Marxist stalking horse

The only question is whether he [and the whole Dem party] is -that- “crazy” or brilliantly evil.

I know where I’d place my bet.

9 posted on 07/19/2010 10:13:15 PM PDT by Salamander (We are not who we are.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

It is ironic this country would experience explosive Federal Usurpation spearheaded by a tall lanky fellow from Illinois who seems determined to exploit crisis and expand a deep rift in the country that has become more and more charged.

We have indeed become two completely divided camps, left and right, and he will do whatever it takes to impose the will of the (mostly) northern liberal-leaning states on the (mostly) southern and western conservative states.

The issues that divide us, political, moral and theological, whether or not we “spread the wealth” and pursue a socialist agenda or whether we adhere to our original founding as a “free republic, if we can keep it” as Mr. Franklin once suggested, has us hurtling towards another American feud.

How violent?

Do we change our entire way of life, the base of our economy and restructure our political landscape because we have little chance of agreement on these issues?

To which path do we turn, Free Republic or Slave Socialist?

The Federal Usurpation just might be pushed too far for some of us to stand. We see those that would abandon our “noble experiment” based upon the powerful force of personal liberty and freedom, the principles for which our Republic once stood. Are they misguided? Are they evil?

Their adherents, of course, believe they have a more spiritual and humane nature, wanting all to share equally in the wealth of a great land, where their fervent progressivism can become a free way of life for all. Not a freedom for which we are all prepared, it seems.

Standing in opposition to those who would run our ever-changing Democracy (for that is what we have become) are those that would conserve the ideals of a once truly unique way of life, a Republic, a Representative Republic, envisioned by the founders of these United States.

Many aspects of our social and religious beliefs, established mores, our basic economic freedoms, may induce so much passion on both sides we could end up fighting each other over which path is righteous ... and we will both claim an absolute moral imperative that we will each consider unimpeachable and without doubt the most fundamental and undeniably righteous cause.

Those that would impose the enslavement by the State, that see it as an urgent mission that cannot be put off any longer and continue the growing cry for social justice, are not likely to have a change of heart and forgo their dream of the REAL, complete and total solution in which they so fervently believe because some of us believe that the REAL path to freedom is to pursue our destiny as a great republic? They have killed millions to get here.

I hope this will not amount to anything but a clash between opposing forces of voters, but there seems more to it and it seems explosive. It is too deep a disagreement, too fundamentally rooted in our respective beliefs in two diametrically opposed ways of life to which we each are each totally committed.

This is not simply socialist creep, the push from a small number of old radicals; it is the rush of the left to finally end our grand experiment.

Will the resistance to this virulent, leftist imposition of will end in a heated debate and resolution through the ballot box, or will it create safe houses and strongholds of a Free Republic, mounting of a resistance and forcing some of us to become rebels?

Can we go forward, having been pushed so far, to continue living in a house so utterly divided? I know there are those on the left who are true believers. They are so violent in their beliefs that their adherents to date have killed millions to achieve their goals. Are we now seeing the tipping point?

10 posted on 07/19/2010 10:22:44 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Conservatism is the antidote to tyranny...its principles are the founding principles." - LevinHey,)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Obama’s real mission is to contain the United States while Iran “nukes-up” to destroy Israel. All this other stuff is just window dressing.

11 posted on 07/19/2010 10:28:27 PM PDT by csense
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To: unkus

Speaking of the ‘F’ word. Our daughter went one year to a well renowned MoCo, MD HS with an IB program, in which she was enrolled in the pre-IB section.

One day at the library, she witnessed a beleaguered teacher working with remedial students and trying her best to explain things.

Comments such as, ‘FU, I doan need to do this s*it’ and others similar were completely shocking to our daughter.

Worse, the teacher tried to APPEASE them by saying how much she wanted to help them.

Lost kids, clueless teacher. Back to plaid skirts and standing on a cold Metro platform to the St. John’s College HS Scholar’s Programme. Her choice. She just could take any more idiots.

12 posted on 07/19/2010 10:34:22 PM PDT by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: unkus

And why?

It's because America alone stands in the way of the Marxists achieving global dominance.

They must subjugate their populations to attain control of their nation's resources so that they may enjoy and control each nation's wealth.

America has a history of opposing this, particularly when it threatens national security, which it often does.

Who is going to stop them? Not Europe. There's nobody else.

13 posted on 07/19/2010 10:39:23 PM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenerio at a time.)
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To: csense
Could be- people gettin' busy in the streets, some marshal law thrown in and foreign states, like mice, may begin to play.

What's funny is all the give-aways, hand-outs, and equalitarianism(?) haven't been enough and certainly haven't solved the problems of the have-nots.

Have we raised a spoiled brat who's in grave need of a swift kick in the pants? Is Obama like the punk-kid telling your 'brat' that you should provide more for him? Maybe they'll borrow the car after you go to bed tonight. Bratboy could join a gang and then the real fun will begin at home.

14 posted on 07/19/2010 10:58:15 PM PDT by budwiesest (It's that girl from Alaska, again.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

There is no turning back without a reboot. The fecal matter must be flushed!!

Step back and enjoy the decline, there is nothing you can do about it. Do you honestly believe that IF (and that is a monstrous IF) Republicans are given a Super Majority in both houses, that they will have the testical fortitude to overturn everything Obama has done or anything these morons have achieved over the past 40 years?

This is THEIR world, the liberal/socialists/marxists that wanted a “revolution” have achieved it. They have so thoroughly destroyed the minds of the citizens so as to achieve this very goal, most don’t even know what this Country was founded on.

The lemmings that think all this is good idea, will be the first to go, and those that know better shouldn’t be there to protect them.


15 posted on 07/19/2010 11:09:11 PM PDT by tonyinv (There are no "rights" only one single law,..survival of the fittest.)
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To: TheThinker

America used to stand in the way. Obama and Co. is in the front leading the charge now.

16 posted on 07/19/2010 11:34:10 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: budwiesest
It would certainly explain Obama's behavior and silence during the violent clashes in Iran last year regarding dinnerjackets re-election. I've been mulling that idea for a while now, without being much wedded to it, but lately, my sensibilities have been informing me that something much more sinister is going on with this man, and that idea now is starting to solidify.

Marxism, and it's corollaries socialism, communism, fascism, are not going to take over the world. Islam will, and the Marxist's know it. Therefore, their goals must be mutual. Mutual in the sense that it is Marxism which must bend to survive. The liberals in this country with their destructive poicies and odd notions of utopian "ism's" won't last even if it wins within the political structure it exists in. Obama knows this. He was groomed for it early in life, and he is using the liberals just as much as they are using him, and we are caught in the chaos..while both have taken their eye off Obama's target.


17 posted on 07/19/2010 11:45:57 PM PDT by csense
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Helter Skelter?

18 posted on 07/19/2010 11:46:25 PM PDT by elisheba
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Two (of many) important questions: How many corrupt law enforcement groups will side with Obama and Company? And how will the military divide?

Regarding LEOs, I’m most concerned about police forces in large cities with strong political machines. Regarding the military, I expect most high ranks to support O & Co, and most ratings, perhaps excluding some “higher” NCOs, to side with us.

19 posted on 07/20/2010 3:37:45 AM PDT by JohnQ1 ("I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

My question to you and the others on this Forum is simple yet hard to answer. In a Civil War it generally comes down to two sides who strongly believe in something with a large majority of people in between who basically just want to be left alone to live out their lives in peace. So who are the two sides here?

Looters vs. Producers?

Liberal vs. Conservative?

Taxpayers vs. Non-Taxpayers?

Cities vs. The Non-citified Country, ie Urban vs. Suburbs, ex-urbs and Rural.

Add your own two sides if you want too. These are just what I see as if painted with a broad brush stroke.

It becomes difficult to figure out who is on what side geographically because the whole country is really a mix of all of these things. And with the way that our families tend to go in different direction both geographically and politically.

So if it does come down to Civil War it will turn out to be a war of self-immolation as we will all be burned. So instead we need to concentrate on the ballot box for now and hope and pray that we can start the reversal of these trends. The other way is just too terrible to want to go through again.

20 posted on 07/20/2010 3:56:31 AM PDT by The Working Man
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