It is literally and figuratively the 11th hour.
“and “unify” the nation once again under Obama’s leadership, making him a modern day “Abraham Lincoln.”
Yeah....and that worked out real well the first time.
Are we going to -forced- into “remaining loyal” to Fauxmessiah?
We have more firearms and know how to use them.
It is ironic this country would experience explosive Federal Usurpation spearheaded by a tall lanky fellow from Illinois who seems determined to exploit crisis and expand a deep rift in the country that has become more and more charged.
We have indeed become two completely divided camps, left and right, and he will do whatever it takes to impose the will of the (mostly) northern liberal-leaning states on the (mostly) southern and western conservative states.
The issues that divide us, political, moral and theological, whether or not we “spread the wealth” and pursue a socialist agenda or whether we adhere to our original founding as a “free republic, if we can keep it” as Mr. Franklin once suggested, has us hurtling towards another American feud.
How violent?
Do we change our entire way of life, the base of our economy and restructure our political landscape because we have little chance of agreement on these issues?
To which path do we turn, Free Republic or Slave Socialist?
The Federal Usurpation just might be pushed too far for some of us to stand. We see those that would abandon our “noble experiment” based upon the powerful force of personal liberty and freedom, the principles for which our Republic once stood. Are they misguided? Are they evil?
Their adherents, of course, believe they have a more spiritual and humane nature, wanting all to share equally in the wealth of a great land, where their fervent progressivism can become a free way of life for all. Not a freedom for which we are all prepared, it seems.
Standing in opposition to those who would run our ever-changing Democracy (for that is what we have become) are those that would conserve the ideals of a once truly unique way of life, a Republic, a Representative Republic, envisioned by the founders of these United States.
Many aspects of our social and religious beliefs, established mores, our basic economic freedoms, may induce so much passion on both sides we could end up fighting each other over which path is righteous ... and we will both claim an absolute moral imperative that we will each consider unimpeachable and without doubt the most fundamental and undeniably righteous cause.
Those that would impose the enslavement by the State, that see it as an urgent mission that cannot be put off any longer and continue the growing cry for social justice, are not likely to have a change of heart and forgo their dream of the REAL, complete and total solution in which they so fervently believe because some of us believe that the REAL path to freedom is to pursue our destiny as a great republic? They have killed millions to get here.
I hope this will not amount to anything but a clash between opposing forces of voters, but there seems more to it and it seems explosive. It is too deep a disagreement, too fundamentally rooted in our respective beliefs in two diametrically opposed ways of life to which we each are each totally committed.
This is not simply socialist creep, the push from a small number of old radicals; it is the rush of the left to finally end our grand experiment.
Will the resistance to this virulent, leftist imposition of will end in a heated debate and resolution through the ballot box, or will it create safe houses and strongholds of a Free Republic, mounting of a resistance and forcing some of us to become rebels?
Can we go forward, having been pushed so far, to continue living in a house so utterly divided? I know there are those on the left who are true believers. They are so violent in their beliefs that their adherents to date have killed millions to achieve their goals. Are we now seeing the tipping point?
Obama’s real mission is to contain the United States while Iran “nukes-up” to destroy Israel. All this other stuff is just window dressing.
There is no turning back without a reboot. The fecal matter must be flushed!!
Step back and enjoy the decline, there is nothing you can do about it. Do you honestly believe that IF (and that is a monstrous IF) Republicans are given a Super Majority in both houses, that they will have the testical fortitude to overturn everything Obama has done or anything these morons have achieved over the past 40 years?
This is THEIR world, the liberal/socialists/marxists that wanted a “revolution” have achieved it. They have so thoroughly destroyed the minds of the citizens so as to achieve this very goal, most don’t even know what this Country was founded on.
The lemmings that think all this is good idea, will be the first to go, and those that know better shouldn’t be there to protect them.
F*CK EM.
Two (of many) important questions: How many corrupt law enforcement groups will side with Obama and Company? And how will the military divide?
Regarding LEOs, I’m most concerned about police forces in large cities with strong political machines. Regarding the military, I expect most high ranks to support O & Co, and most ratings, perhaps excluding some “higher” NCOs, to side with us.
My question to you and the others on this Forum is simple yet hard to answer. In a Civil War it generally comes down to two sides who strongly believe in something with a large majority of people in between who basically just want to be left alone to live out their lives in peace. So who are the two sides here?
Looters vs. Producers?
Liberal vs. Conservative?
Taxpayers vs. Non-Taxpayers?
Cities vs. The Non-citified Country, ie Urban vs. Suburbs, ex-urbs and Rural.
Add your own two sides if you want too. These are just what I see as if painted with a broad brush stroke.
It becomes difficult to figure out who is on what side geographically because the whole country is really a mix of all of these things. And with the way that our families tend to go in different direction both geographically and politically.
So if it does come down to Civil War it will turn out to be a war of self-immolation as we will all be burned. So instead we need to concentrate on the ballot box for now and hope and pray that we can start the reversal of these trends. The other way is just too terrible to want to go through again.
“hey believe they can rally the nation to defeat these “radicals” who would be called all sorts of names (already beginning) and “unify” the nation once again under Obama’s leadership, making him a modern day “Abraham Lincoln.”
Something north of 60% of the people applaud the states taking on the criminals in Washington.
How will king obuma unite the nation with less than 40% support? King obuma is operating from a position of extreme weakness. He’s plunging in the polls, the cops hate him (read a few police blogs) and his support is mainly among blacks, welfare mommas and bed-wetting college kids. You can’t make an army of that.
Speaking of the army, reports are coming in of division and hostility in some units between obuma supporters and obuma opponents.
Obuma is playing with fire and will get burned. There is no way on Earth that he “unites” the country. He crossed the Unity Bridge months ago and there’s no going back.
Domestically, Hussein's attacked the foundations of private enterprise, nationalized a large part of the American automobile industry, set in motion the destruction of the health care industry (1/6 of the economy) and has taken a moderate recession into a deepening depression.
Internationally, he has alienated vital allies, instituted a disastrous policy towards terrorism and decimated our clout by bowing, scraping and ass-kissing every muslim despot he can find.
It is clear that he intends upon destroying what now exists in favor of its new matrix. This makes him the most dangerous President in our Republic's history.
If we don't neuter him in the 2010 elections, there may not be much left by the time his term expires.
The South may have hated Lincoln as the “enemy”, but he was an American who was trying to do best for his country as he saw it. Obama is not an American who is trying to destroy his country. He will not succeed with this “trap”.