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1 posted on 06/15/2010 12:53:36 PM PDT by SmithL
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“Legal scholars laugh out loud at Republican state Sen. Russell Pearce’s proposal and warn that it would be blatantly unconstitutional, since the 14th Amendment guarantees citizenship to anyone born in the U.S.”

A flat lie.


2 posted on 06/15/2010 12:56:05 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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Go Sen. Pearce!!! GO Arizona!!!

He's right!

"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons." Senator Jacob Howard, co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

3 posted on 06/15/2010 12:57:09 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: SmithL

Actually, I stopped reading when I got to the word “undocumented”....undocumented is when you’re in the backwoods of Tennessee, Kentucky, etc. and it takes a few weeks to get into town and register that baby you delivered at home. It doesn’t mean a goddam illegal Mexican and the baby factory heifer he’s hooked up with to grab the bennies via an “American-baby”.


4 posted on 06/15/2010 12:58:30 PM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: SmithL

FINALLY! Someone to take on the common sense fight! If foreigners come to Disney Land with their families... any children born during their holiday are not citizens of our country!! That goes for ambassadors, illegal aliens, et al!


5 posted on 06/15/2010 1:00:26 PM PDT by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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To: SmithL
warn that it would be blatantly unconstitutional, since the 14th Amendment guarantees citizenship to anyone born in the U.S.

A blatant lie.

6 posted on 06/15/2010 1:02:59 PM PDT by calex59
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To: SmithL
Legal scholars laugh out loud at Republican state Sen. Russell Pearce's proposal and warn that it would be blatantly unconstitutional, since the 14th Amendment guarantees citizenship to anyone born in the U.S.

But does it really? The 14th amendment says:

Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. ...
It seems a resolution or legislation that begins with a challenge to the notion of anchor baby citizenship by asserting "WHEREAS undocumented persons illegally present in the United States are not subject to the jurisdiction thereof" would have a reasonable standing. Since the courts have not defined "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" (not that they have the constitutional authority to define it anyway) Congress would certainly have the constitutional power to define by statute that unlawful presence in the US of undocumented aliens does not place them or their offspring under the jurisdiction thereof and therefore does not affort their anchor babies citizenship.
7 posted on 06/15/2010 1:03:09 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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Ping!


9 posted on 06/15/2010 1:04:12 PM PDT by HiJinx (I can see November from the rocker on my front porch...)
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To: SmithL

It was idiot Kennedy who first passed the “anchor baby” concept. Most likely he was thinking of getting cheap help and creating an underclass that would always vote Dem. This legislation should be reversed - no other country has such ridiculous laws on the books. Even back in the 60’s the Dems were determined to ruin this country simply to make their own lives easier.


11 posted on 06/15/2010 1:04:44 PM PDT by onevoter
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I agree. No anchor babies.


13 posted on 06/15/2010 1:10:27 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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YES! Every state in the union must adopt this measure.

Multiculturalism is destroying our country. They want us to respect their culture while pissing on ours. I've had enough. No other country allows this type invasion. We need to stop it NOW.

15 posted on 06/15/2010 1:12:23 PM PDT by 23 Everest (Zero, On It Since Day One, we are into day 55 of the oil spill & counting)
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To: SmithL; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; genetic homophobe; FromLori; ...
RE :”PHOENIX — Emboldened by passage of the nation's toughest law against illegal immigration, the Arizona politician who sponsored the measure now wants to deny U.S. citizenship to children born in this country to undocumented parents. Legal scholars laugh out loud at Republican state Sen. Russell Pearce's proposal and warn that it would be blatantly unconstitutional, since the 14th Amendment guarantees citizenship to anyone born in the U.S...The 14th Amendment, adopted in 1868 in the aftermath of the Civil War, reads: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.” But Pearce argues that the amendment was meant to protect black people. “It's been hijacked and abused,” he said. “There is no provision in the 14th Amendment for the declaration of citizenship to children born here to illegal aliens.

I am going to guess that the states cannot decide who is an American citizen but they do make the rules on what goes on birth certificates which are used to prove citizenship. (Beyong the claim that the 14th amendment makes them citizens.)

Arent children of Mexican illegals automatically given Mexican citizenship too? dual citizenship? This makes no sense for us to allow this.

17 posted on 06/15/2010 1:14:46 PM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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My co-workers and I were talking about this at lunch. One fella stated that the 14th amendment was fashioned to protect the children of slaves.

Anyone know more about that or if that is indeed a true statement?

24 posted on 06/15/2010 1:26:39 PM PDT by servantboy777
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Well it also happens to be “blatantly unconstitutional” to prevent American’s from keeping and bearing arms, ain’t it there, “legal scholars?!”


25 posted on 06/15/2010 1:28:48 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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Just have AZ hospitals Xerox blank Mexican birth certificates and fill ‘em in as the “undocumenteds” spew the babies out.


36 posted on 06/15/2010 3:14:34 PM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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Ping


51 posted on 06/16/2010 10:23:14 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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