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Obama administration should heed Mexico's call to crack down on guns
Washington Post ^ | May 21, 2010

Posted on 05/21/2010 4:49:23 AM PDT by Second Amendment First

MEXICAN PRESIDENT Felipe Calderón has shown courage in leading his government to take on the violent drug gangs that have claimed thousands of Mexican lives. On Thursday, he displayed a different kind of fortitude: standing before a joint meeting of Congress and asking for a revival of the U.S. assault weapons ban. The Obama administration, which has been largely absent in the fight against the illegal gun trade, should have such backbone.

Mr. Calderón, who has been in Washington for a state visit, made a powerful case. Over the past three years, Mexican authorities have seized some 75,000 weapons used in crimes; more than 80 percent of those they were able to trace came from the United States. Mr. Calderón argued that the surge in violent, cartel-related crimes coincided with the 2004 repeal of the U.S. assault weapons ban.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; Mexico; Politics/Elections
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Over the past three years, Mexican authorities have seized some 75,000 weapons used in crimes; more than 80 percent of those they were able to trace came from the United States.

So what percentage are traceable guns of the 75,000 seized? 10%, 1%? Probably most of the guns were untraceable.

WaPo is engaging in some slippery wording here to distort the facts.

1 posted on 05/21/2010 4:49:24 AM PDT by Second Amendment First
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To: Second Amendment First

Hey, why not? There won’t be a single Democrat left by 2012 anyways. Go for broke!


2 posted on 05/21/2010 4:50:13 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Lazamataz

Maybe they’d be happier in Mexico.


3 posted on 05/21/2010 4:52:12 AM PDT by Second Amendment First ("Stripping motivated people of their dignity and rubbing their noses in it is a very bad idea.")
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To: Second Amendment First

and how many of those “traceable” guns were simply attributed to us from the “made in the usa” stamp on them?


4 posted on 05/21/2010 4:52:18 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced, tattooed, pierced, harley hatin, meghan mccain luvin', smoker and pit bull owner..what?)
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To: Second Amendment First

Its time for additional layoffs at the compost.The last guy to leave please turn out the lights.


5 posted on 05/21/2010 4:53:26 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Second Amendment First

“So what percentage are traceable guns of the 75,000 seized? 10%, 1%? Probably most of the guns were untraceable.”

Exactly, it is much more likely that the untraceable guns were from elsewhere, other than the US and that most of the 75,000 guns were untraceable. That is exactly why the Washington Post wrote it that way, to deceive.


6 posted on 05/21/2010 4:56:38 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Second Amendment First

The Washington Tass flatulates on cue from it’s 0bamunist masters, nothing new here.

As for Calderon?

Go visit the local Taco Bell, stuff your piehole with a big beef burrito, do a Mexican hat dance, then GTF outta OUR Country!


7 posted on 05/21/2010 4:57:09 AM PDT by mkjessup (0bama squats to pee.)
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To: Second Amendment First

We should build a 40 foot wall from the Pacific to the Gulf of Mexico.

We’ll keep our guns inside the U.S., and Mexico can keep their underclass inside Mexico. Works for me.


8 posted on 05/21/2010 4:57:26 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I'm voting for Sarah Palin because she pisses off the right people.)
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To: Lazamataz

“Hey, why not? There won’t be a single Democrat left by 2012 anyways. Go for broke!”

You are kidding right? If not, begin preparing yourself for great disappointment...


9 posted on 05/21/2010 4:57:44 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Second Amendment First

So what if the arms were made in the USA. Enquiring minds want to know who purchased, transported and sold the arms in Mexico. I’m sure they were just ordinary tourists looking to make a little extra cash to spend on the lush beaches of old Mexico - or not . . .

P.S. Dear Mr. Calderone, closing American borders would solve this problem because smuggling is a two way street - comprende? Besides, if an open border is leaving your country with a bunch of armed thugs and drug peddlers, you ought to give a little thought to the concept of ‘brain drain’ which also seems to be impacting your increasing stupid nation.


10 posted on 05/21/2010 4:59:26 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: Wpin

Well, if not, we will be a fully-communist country — complete with roundups and starvation purges and gulags — by 2014.


11 posted on 05/21/2010 4:59:37 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Second Amendment First

If one were to bring guns into Mexico, all one would have to do is load up your trunk with AK’s and drive through the “Nada Para Declarar” gate at the border. If you’re lucky, the Mexican border guards will wave at you!


12 posted on 05/21/2010 5:00:13 AM PDT by saluki_in_ohio (I support statehood for Central and Southern Illinois. Let Cook County play with itself...)
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To: Lazamataz

Sounds about right.


13 posted on 05/21/2010 5:00:49 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Second Amendment First
"..came from the United States."

If only there was some kind of device..a barrier of some sort that could be constructed along the border to keep those guns out. If only someone would invent such a device.

14 posted on 05/21/2010 5:01:53 AM PDT by Jaxter ("Pro Aris et Focis")
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
I'm sure I'm not the first person to suggest to Señor Calderón that he kindly drop dead, STFU & don't even begin to presume to tell us what to do, and to quietly pack his sh!t and go back to his 3rd-world hellhole of a country.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

15 posted on 05/21/2010 5:02:12 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: absolootezer0

The fact is, only 17 percent of guns found at Mexican crime scenes have been traced to the U.S.

What’s true, an ATF spokeswoman told FOXNews.com, in a clarification of the statistic used by her own agency’s assistant director, “is that over 90 percent of the traced firearms originate from the U.S.”

But a large percentage of the guns recovered in Mexico do not get sent back to the U.S. for tracing, because it is obvious from their markings that they do not come from the U.S.

“Not every weapon seized in Mexico has a serial number on it that would make it traceable, and the U.S. effort to trace weapons really only extends to weapons that have been in the U.S. market,” Matt Allen, special agent of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), told FOX News.

In 2007-2008, according to ATF Special Agent William Newell, Mexico submitted 11,000 guns to the ATF for tracing. Close to 6,000 were successfully traced — and of those, 90 percent — 5,114 to be exact, according to testimony in Congress by William Hoover — were found to have come from the U.S.

But in those same two years, according to the Mexican government, 29,000 guns were recovered at crime scenes.

In other words, 68 percent of the guns that were recovered were never submitted for tracing. And when you weed out the roughly 6,000 guns that could not be traced from the remaining 32 percent, it means 83 percent of the guns found at crime scenes in Mexico could not be traced to the U.S.

So, if not from the U.S., where do they come from? There are a variety of sources:

— The Black Market. Mexico is a virtual arms bazaar, with fragmentation grenades from South Korea, AK-47s from China, and shoulder-fired rocket launchers from Spain, Israel and former Soviet bloc manufacturers.

— Russian crime organizations. Interpol says Russian Mafia groups such as Poldolskaya and Moscow-based Solntsevskaya are actively trafficking drugs and arms in Mexico.

- South America. During the late 1990s, the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) established a clandestine arms smuggling and drug trafficking partnership with the Tijuana cartel, according to the Federal Research Division report from the Library of Congress.

— Asia. According to a 2006 Amnesty International Report, China has provided arms to countries in Asia, Africa and Latin America. Chinese assault weapons and Korean explosives have been recovered in Mexico.

— The Mexican Army. More than 150,000 soldiers deserted in the last six years, according to Mexican Congressman Robert Badillo. Many took their weapons with them, including the standard issue M-16 assault rifle made in Belgium.

— Guatemala. U.S. intelligence agencies say traffickers move immigrants, stolen cars, guns and drugs, including most of America’s cocaine, along the porous Mexican-Guatemalan border. On March 27, La Hora, a Guatemalan newspaper, reported that police seized 500 grenades and a load of AK-47s on the border. Police say the cache was transported by a Mexican drug cartel operating out of Ixcan, a border town.


16 posted on 05/21/2010 5:02:51 AM PDT by maddog55 (OBAMA, Why stupid people shouldn't vote.)
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To: Lazamataz

“Well, if not, we will be a fully-communist country — complete with roundups and starvation purges and gulags — by 2014.”

There is a whole range of possibilities between the two extremes you mention... unfortunately, many are not good and are fairly likely to occur.


17 posted on 05/21/2010 5:03:57 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Second Amendment First

These people pull this banning cr*p out every chance they get.


18 posted on 05/21/2010 5:06:01 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: Second Amendment First

obama should appoint this guy acting vice-president to replace the dain-bramaged Joe Biden.


19 posted on 05/21/2010 5:07:07 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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To: Second Amendment First
more than 80 percent of those (guns) they were able to trace came from the United States

What percentage of crime in the Southwest USA is traceable to mexican illegal 'immigrants?'

Maybe we should crack down on them first.

20 posted on 05/21/2010 5:09:22 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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