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Jeb Bush speaks out against Ariz. law
Politico ^ | Apr 27, 2010 | Jonathan Martin

Posted on 04/27/2010 1:06:17 PM PDT by worst-case scenario

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush is speaking out against the new hard-line immigration law in Arizona, becoming the first prominent national Republican to do so.

"I think it creates unintended consequences," he said in a telephone interview with POLITICO Tuesday. "It's difficult for me to imagine how you're going to enforce this law. It places a significant burden on local law enforcement and you have civil liberties issues that are significant as well."

The measure, signed into law last Friday, would require police to check the immigration status of any individuals they reasonably suspect are illegal immigrants and arrest them if they can't prove legal status.

Bush said he understood the anger that prompted the bill, but that immigration should remain a federal issue.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0410/36427.html#ixzz0mKhY8Vdc

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arizona; bush; fl; florida; immigration; jebbush; nomorebushs; rinogop; rubio; squattersupportsquad; stayoutdabushes
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To: Frantzie

Yes, Rubio has fooled a lot of people....and I still cannot understand why Rubio gets more support nationally than JD Hayworth does. I am familiar with both their backgrounds....Rubio is more liberal....and more corrupt (Hayworth-Abramoff is nothing compared to Rubio running up the GOP Credit Cards).

Hopefully people will start realizing Rubio is not the conservative people think he is....and he is not any more conservative than Chuck Loafers is....


151 posted on 04/27/2010 3:16:39 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (JD Hayworth for Senate ..... jdforsenate.com)
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To: worst-case scenario
Another Bush who panders to diseased, criminal, illegal scumbag aliens. Imagine that.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

152 posted on 04/27/2010 3:18:36 PM PDT by wku man (Who says conservatives don't rock? Go to www.myspace.com/rockfromtheright)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

I never gave Rubio a plug nickel because I suspected he was pro-amnesty aka Mel Martinez 2.

The Bush klan gave us Mel and wanted a new Mel - enter Rubio. I suspected this.

I donated to JD Hayworth and will send more. I told Rubio to stop sending me his email crap. I got some of his garbage in the mail that I think I saved and will return it on his dime.

Amnesty Rubio. Another open-borders RINO.

If Crist had an IQ over 20 he would have remained or become a Repub but he is a RINO/Dem mole. It makes me sick but if it comes down to Rubio or Crist - I will (gag) have to vote Crist.

Rubio’s last minute unmasking as pro-amnesty Mel Martinez 2 will hopefully sink him. Rubio was just gonna try to slip by. He is a fake.


153 posted on 04/27/2010 3:23:44 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain & Graham = La Raza's favorite Senators)
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To: ZULU
"I have concerns with the police stopping people because they “look like illegals”.

Come on now, you know better than that! The law doesn't allow police to stop someone because they "look like an illegal". Police have to have reasonable suspicion that someone is an illegal scumbag alien in order to merely ask someone about their citizenship status, and that's only after they have been stopped for some other violation!

Don't repeat CommieLib propaganda; the lamestream media already have that job.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

154 posted on 04/27/2010 3:28:37 PM PDT by wku man (Who says conservatives don't rock? Go to www.myspace.com/rockfromtheright)
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To: worst-case scenario

Jeb Bush and his brother failed to sell any compromise. Now he should shut up. He isn’t helping.


155 posted on 04/27/2010 3:32:00 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Frantzie

Rubio was just on Fox News call we Arizonans law breakers.

I should have known better than to believe him


156 posted on 04/27/2010 3:39:07 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Rubio said that! What a POS! He is Amnesty Mel Martinez 2. Another pro-amnesty Bush puppet.

How dare he attack people iN AZ. They are all going mental on this and we can see all the roaches scurrying into the light.

McCain
Graham
Meg Whitman
Rubio
Judge Napolitano
Jeb Bush

I am gonna send JD another check and I am going to call Crist’s campaign tomorrow.

I loathe Crist but Rubio looks very very BAD. Rubio will vote for AMNESTY in a second. Crist might not.


157 posted on 04/27/2010 3:44:39 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain & Graham = La Raza's favorite Senators)
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To: maddogconservative
What are you some kind of Communist?

You quote an LA rag for a source? That entire city is a illegal alien sanctuary..

Gezzzz

158 posted on 04/27/2010 3:49:31 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Frantzie

Near the beginning of the show, Brit Hume had a commentary that said the Arizona law is identical to existing Federal law, and he saw no hope for amnesty this year, because the American people must see proof that the border is sealed first.


159 posted on 04/27/2010 3:52:32 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: longtermmemmory

Yes, Jeb’s wife is Hispanic. She also is a smuggler. She smuggled $10,000 worth of designer clothes into this country - AND GOT CAUGHT! That says a lot about the level of integrity.


160 posted on 04/27/2010 3:53:02 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: worst-case scenario
"I guess I don’t understand what you mean. Do you think that the Federal Government should pass a law requiring that everyone carry proof of citizenship at all times?"

We don't need any more laws. The law is already on the books & should be implemented!

Arizona's law is just like the Federal law.

161 posted on 04/27/2010 3:53:05 PM PDT by LADY J (Change your thoughts and you change your world. - Norman Vincent Peale)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Thanks. Rubio is a fraud. Crist sucks too but Rubio is a sneak.


162 posted on 04/27/2010 3:55:42 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain & Graham = La Raza's favorite Senators)
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To: ZULU

“Exactly. Under this law, EVERYBODY would have to carry papers.”

Explain to me why a person that was stopped for a traffic violation and suspected of being in the country illegally could not be verified as a legal citizen by using the E-Verify system.

About a year ago, the state of Indiana use the E-Verify system to find mismatches between names and SS numbers on drivers licenses. If they did not match, you had thirty days to correct it or your license was suspended.

Like you, I don’t want to see citizens having to carry papers to prove they are here legally, but I think there are other ways to identify illegal aliens vs. legal citizens.


163 posted on 04/27/2010 3:57:47 PM PDT by EEDUDE
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To: stuartcr
You can't really be as stupid as you sound. This law in now way gives officers the right to stop anyone simply because they want to. It does give them the right to ask for ID if they stop someone for a traffic violation or some other infraction of the law. Once they have the ID, or lack of it, they can then check the persons legal status. It is a not brainer. Neither you or anyone else is in danger of being asked for ID simply because you are out walking around, or even driving.

You are putting up obstacles that don't exist.

This tells me you are either illegally here or have friends or relatives who are here illegally.

164 posted on 04/27/2010 4:06:09 PM PDT by calex59
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To: worst-case scenario

If the Feds were doing their job, it’d be no problem for Arizona.


165 posted on 04/27/2010 4:21:43 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.) (RIA)
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To: worst-case scenario

I have NEVER seen such dishonest reporting. THEY CAN’T STOP PEOPLE JUST FOR THEIR RACE. But if they have stopped someone for something else, then they MUST ask. What is so F**KING hard to understand.


166 posted on 04/27/2010 4:28:13 PM PDT by Hildy (Going to McDonald's for a salad is like going to a whore for a hug.)
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To: Frantzie; All

Duncan Hunter in an interview: “DH: In other words they made state law on illegal aliens consistent with federal law! Good. “


167 posted on 04/27/2010 4:29:51 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: ZULU
Rubio is an unfolding story. As he is a Hispanic American, I understand his concerns and even I have concerns with the police stopping people because they “look like illegals”. Papers Please????

OH MY GOD...For the last time, THEY CAN'T STOP PEOPLE AND ASK THEM ANYTHING. But if someone is stopped for something, let's say DUI, THEN they have to ask. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT. The fact that people here don't understand this SIMPLE SIMPLE law, really scares me.

168 posted on 04/27/2010 4:33:28 PM PDT by Hildy (Going to McDonald's for a salad is like going to a whore for a hug.)
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To: worst-case scenario

As Florida’s governor he was useless about the illegal invasion.


169 posted on 04/27/2010 4:39:00 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Hildy; yorkie; AuntB
The fact that people here don't understand this SIMPLE SIMPLE law, really scares me.

I'm not sure what's going on here with all of these flat-out idiotic comments!! I feel like I fell into a Marxist fearmongering Web site.

People who don't even live in AZ and have no clue what goes on here, not to mention haven't read the bill, I wish they'd just stop talking before spreading more rumors and lies. They are playing right into the Communist hands.

170 posted on 04/27/2010 4:41:32 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: worst-case scenario; yorkie; AuntB; Liz

We need ID just to buy certain cold medicine in AZ, thanks to the REAL police state — the one that harasses law-abiding American citizens but turns a blind eye to all of the meth-making criminals.

And let’s not forget about the red light and speed cameras, out-of-state or country plates? Off the hook.


171 posted on 04/27/2010 4:53:36 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Borax Queen

You got that right. And it keeps being repeated. I almost threw my shoe at the TV when Shep Smith was repeating the lie that police can stop anyone. IT’S A LIE.


172 posted on 04/27/2010 4:55:09 PM PDT by Hildy (Going to McDonald's for a salad is like going to a whore for a hug.)
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To: calex59; stuartcr
This tells me you are either illegally here or have friends or relatives who are here illegally.

No kidding, calex, I agree with you!

stuartcr ---- If you don't have your ID (driver's license, alien registration card, whatever) with you, you will not be deported overnight, give me a break. I haven't heard such a blatant apologist for the illegal alien lobby in awhile, especially on FR.

173 posted on 04/27/2010 4:56:08 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Hildy

I had to turn that POS off when he first came on, my blood pressure can seriously not handle it. All of those lying talking heads, speaking with such “authority.”

Had to go to a McDonald’s today to pick up lunch for some folks; the Quizno’s suddenly shut down, hope it didn’t go out of business. Anyway, the place was packed full of non-English speakers and no one looked scared to me. They must not have gotten the memo from Shep and all the rest of the liars ...


174 posted on 04/27/2010 4:58:57 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Hildy

Thank goodness Laura I. is telling off the latest pro-illegal liar right now....


175 posted on 04/27/2010 5:09:26 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Borax Queen

“I’m not sure what’s going on here with all of these flat-out idiotic comments!! I feel like I fell into a Marxist fearmongering Web site.

People who don’t even live in AZ and have no clue what goes on here, not to mention haven’t read the bill, I wish they’d just stop talking before spreading more rumors and lies. They are playing right into the Communist hands. “

They are supporting the established GOP leadership...Steele, MCain (no matter what he says today!), Graham, the Bushes.


176 posted on 04/27/2010 5:12:27 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more ‘share the wealth’ socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB

Frightening when more liberals/Democrats (and A LOT do, it’s that 70% issue across the board, as you know) support this bill than it appears some do here, on certain threads.


177 posted on 04/27/2010 5:21:58 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Hildy; Borax Queen
IT’S A LIE.

Of course it's a lie. That's the plan. They are deliberately demagoguing the issue and have no intention of discussing it truthfully. The elitist political/media/academic classes are at war with the rest of us, and they intend to enforce their vision upon us, by whatever means it takes.

They mean to rule well, but they mean to rule. After all, it's their moment...

178 posted on 04/27/2010 5:26:25 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: worst-case scenario

The problem is that this legislation seems to be directed entirely at Hispanic immigrants. On the grand scale of things, we’ve had much more trouble from illegal Middle Easterners (think 9/11), illegal Africans (think Obama) and huge numbers of illegal Chinese who, aside from the ones to whom Bill Clinton was funneling our secrets, contribute heavily to the crime problem in cities where they have a large presence.

The Arizona law is not being presented as an attempt to control illegal immigration (from anywhere, since AZ is the gateway for people smuggling) but as an attempt to attack Hispanics. That has got to be corrected.


179 posted on 04/27/2010 5:39:30 PM PDT by livius
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To: worst-case scenario

One of Jeb’s huge shortcomings! Immigration & amnesty!


180 posted on 04/27/2010 5:55:32 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: boomop1

right on. jeb is acting like a winp because he dosn’t want to offend the mexicans prior to him running for President.


181 posted on 04/27/2010 5:56:27 PM PDT by omegadawn
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To: seekthetruth

“I hope the citizens of Arizona continue to support their Governor and also elect JD Hayworth to the US Senate!”

Three guaranteed JD votes from this household.


182 posted on 04/27/2010 5:57:43 PM PDT by Magic Fingers
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To: maddogconservative

If you stop and think about it, your linked information cannot be true.

SB1070 does not become law for another 4 months, at least.


183 posted on 04/27/2010 5:59:10 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Illegal is a Crime, it is not a Race ~)
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To: LADY J

Do you really think an officer is going to drive a suspect Hispanic man home first, just to get his wallet?


184 posted on 04/27/2010 6:18:22 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: meadsjn

Definitely the same thing, thanks.


185 posted on 04/27/2010 6:18:56 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Good, FR is better than that.


186 posted on 04/27/2010 6:19:50 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: calex59

You must really be a lot smarter than I am, if you’re told I am either an illegal or have friends that are, by what I wrote.


187 posted on 04/27/2010 6:22:02 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: Borax Queen

Of course I won’t. The point is that here in America, we should not be required to have ID on our person at all times. If you can’t see that, then I’m sorry for you.


188 posted on 04/27/2010 6:25:15 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: livius
The problem is that this legislation seems to be directed entirely at Hispanic immigrants.

If they are "illegal" immigrants, absolutely.

189 posted on 04/27/2010 6:27:33 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: worst-case scenario

How disappointing Jeb and Rubio have been today:

“The beauty of Israel is slain upon thy high places: how are the mighty fallen!”


190 posted on 04/27/2010 6:46:51 PM PDT by NYCslicker
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To: Borax Queen

She was great..especially with the Conservative who didn’t know what he was talking about.


191 posted on 04/27/2010 7:25:44 PM PDT by Hildy (Going to McDonald's for a salad is like going to a whore for a hug.)
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To: worst-case scenario

OMG...People here temporarily are ALWAYS asked for their green card. All law enforcement has to do is call ICE. I can’t believe people here are falling for all the propoganda out there. I am proud to be an Arizonan today.


192 posted on 04/27/2010 7:31:16 PM PDT by Hildy (Going to McDonald's for a salad is like going to a whore for a hug.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

I will try to find a website for the Smith campaign

Smith has dropped out.


193 posted on 04/27/2010 8:03:07 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Pray for my soul. More things are wrought by prayer Than this world dreams of.-- Idylls of the King)
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To: worst-case scenario

How many FReepers once crowed for Jeb to be a Presidential candidate?


194 posted on 04/27/2010 8:06:30 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others.)
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To: Borax Queen
When I traveled to Europe last June, I was asked for my Passport a few times, and never once, did I accuse anybody of racial profiling. I just felt it was part of what happens when you are a country other than your own.

Hell, if yer legal - there shouldn't be a problem showing your ID. If yer illegal, then you'd better get wit yer brothas, and get some forged documentation!

195 posted on 04/27/2010 8:08:11 PM PDT by yorkie (Success comes in a "can". Failure comes in a "can't".)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

“Jeb Bush and his brother failed to sell any compromise. Now he should shut up. He isn’t helping.”

It is a good sign the Bush famiglia is opposing this legislation. They lose every single important political fight. Every single one.


196 posted on 04/27/2010 8:10:46 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Is it sedition to defy usurpation?)
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To: Williams
I saw Rubio oppose the bill. I know we’re going to hear how everyone is a “RINO” but truly conservative senate candidates is going to become a very lonely club if we base it on this law.

So, which would you choose - a boot in the teeth or a dagger in the crotch?

You're promoting "Republicans over RINOs). Let's not get hung up on the "RINO or Republican" issue and instead elect actual conservatives.

197 posted on 04/27/2010 8:11:37 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others.)
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To: ladyjane

“Yes, Jeb’s wife is Hispanic. She also is a smuggler. She smuggled $10,000 worth of designer clothes into this country - AND GOT CAUGHT! That says a lot about the level of integrity.”

Integrity, depth, and intellect.


198 posted on 04/27/2010 8:13:51 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Is it sedition to defy usurpation?)
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To: AuntB

They are supporting the established GOP leadership...Steele, MCain (no matter what he says today!), Graham, the Bushes.

*********************

Romney . . .


199 posted on 04/27/2010 8:19:10 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Is it sedition to defy usurpation?)
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To: livius

‘The problem is that this legislation seems to be directed entirely at Hispanic immigrants.’

Do you have ANY evidence for this at all?


200 posted on 04/27/2010 8:22:28 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Pray for my soul. More things are wrought by prayer Than this world dreams of.-- Idylls of the King)
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