Skip to comments.Unrepealable? (DeMint questions about rules changes in bill requiring 2/3 vote and senate adjourns)
Posted on 12/22/2009 8:56:56 AM PST by cornelis
Sen. Jim DeMint (R., S.C.) has thumbed through Harry Reid's manager's amendment and discovered some "particularly troubling" rule-change provisions, especially with regards to the proposed Independent Medicare Advisory Board, which he finds could be unrepealable:
The bill on its face is unconstitutional regardless of the content since Article 1 Section 8 does not specifically grant Congress the power to regulate health care.
DEMINT: and so the language you see in this bill that specifically refers to a change in a rule is not a rule change, its a procedure change?
THE PRESIDING OFFICER: that is correct.
DEMINT: then I guess our rules mean nothing, do they, if they can redefine them. Thank you. and I do yield back.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER: the senate stands adjourned until 7:00 a.m. tomorrow.
This sets up a complete dictatorship by our government. It must be illegal according to our Constitution. Each State needs to file suit in Superior Court and do it now before a vote is taken.
I’d ride this ship all the way down Reid’s throat ever chance I got on the Senate floor or before a camera.
Basically, the Democrats have conveniened a constitutional convention where only THEY get to vote. It is illegal to bind future legislative bodies.
Textbooks used to call this tyranny.
Reid was counting every minute to try to squeeze in the minimum required debate time after invoking cloture to get to the vote on Christmas Eve. Did this 11.5 hour adjournment screw up that time, or it the time when the Senate isn't in session between this adjournment (7:30 last night) until 7am today included in the post-cloture debate time?
Can we mobilize a huge team of conservative lawyers to file suit against these thugs (US Congress) as a group and individually?
particularly troubling” rule-change provisions,
These people are going to use rules towards us because they know we follow them.
I’m going to re-watch and read this for a full understanding. It seems that we actually have bona-fide tyrants in the Senate.
This makes the Republicans, Disidente Juan McCain in particular, look like the boobs they are for always ceding power when they get it. They play nice when they should be hard as steel.
When the Democrats get in power they play for keeps.
This won`t make it to the USSC, and even if it did the courts are so enraptured with judicial activism they`ll find in favor of the US govt.
Article I, Section 5:
Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behavior, and, with the Concurrence of two-thirds, expel a Member.
If this travesty is unrepealable, then there is only one action to take.
and it seems there is NOTHING we can do
MSM will not report on the tyranny being brought down on us
It's not illegal, you just can't do it. Future Congress can always do whatever they want, including modifying any provision that requires a supermajority.
Repeal the Congress.
not clear on how anything can be “unrepealable” that is set by a vote.
wont a future vote just undo it?
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