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The Democrats’ Health Care Hari-Kari
redstate.com ^ | 12/21/09 | posted by bs

Posted on 12/20/2009 10:55:31 PM PST by Darnright

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1 posted on 12/20/2009 10:55:31 PM PST by Darnright
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To: Darnright

They believe that once they get the skeleton in place that it will be impossible for the Republicans to dismantle it even if they win big in both 2010 AND 2012. It will only get bigger and more stifling as time goes on.

I am afraid they are right.


2 posted on 12/20/2009 11:09:00 PM PST by Ronin
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To: Darnright

The correct term should be “hara kiri.”


3 posted on 12/20/2009 11:12:35 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Ronin

I disagree. Set freedom in action again, and HealthControl will compare to free competition like Amtrak and the Post Office compare to the airlines and Fed Ex.

Franky, I think the USA will collapse into bankruptcy and dissolution as did the USSR. It will all end then.


4 posted on 12/20/2009 11:27:17 PM PST by Psalm 144 (What did you think NEW WORLD ORDER meant? The Constitution? States' rights? Individual liberty?)
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To: Ronin
Thatcher was dealing with a lot worse in 1979, but look what she was able to accomplish in privatizing nationalized entities. British Airways, British Steel, Rolls-Royce; don't forget the big one: British Petroleum. I never lose hope, as I believe that all of us on Free Republic all have that hope and spunk that she had.

I plan to channel my efforts and energies into 2010 and 2012 victories and beyond. (Thatcher got three terms, proving that it wasn't a fad.)

5 posted on 12/20/2009 11:42:59 PM PST by UAConservative (Audemus Jura Nostra Defendere)
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To: Ronin

I am not so sure that its a done deal even if passed. Take a look at a couple of states where Gay Marriage was LEGAL and then overturned. I honestly did not see that happening. Once the government switch is on there is no turning it offf as it is power to the politicians, however, I see this one as not only vulnerable but an issue that will cause the political death of the left...its the tipping point we have been waiting for.


6 posted on 12/20/2009 11:47:58 PM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: Darnright

Let’s see:

Lose election, sustain long-term power hold by default as a result of “health care reform”

OR

Possibly lose election, no long-term power hold.

Hmmmmmm....

These are hardcore leftists who don’t give a damn about a midterm election if they can seize permanent control over Americans, their bodies, their wealth, their way of life.

Their “reform” is constant and forever.

YOU don’t need to be in office when the basic system IS YOU.

This is not suicidal, this is a huge success for them.

Think of what is happening to the fundamentals here, not the damn election.

Wake up!


7 posted on 12/20/2009 11:48:08 PM PST by Boucheau
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To: Darnright
“Because they think they know what’s best for the public,” the strategist said. “They think the facts are being distorted and the public’s being told a story that is not entirely true, and that they are in Congress to be leaders. And they are going to make the decision because Goddammit, it’s good for the public.”

The Left always operates this way. They always know what's better for us than we do.

As for the people who are imposing these mandates on us? Anything I could say would violate several of FR's posting guidelines.

8 posted on 12/21/2009 12:28:40 AM PST by denydenydeny (The Left sees taxpayers the way Dr Frankenstein saw the local cemetery; raw material for experiments)
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To: Darnright
It would be more apt to call it “political hari-kari”, as the Democrats believe that passing this legislation is the honorable thing to do.

I cannot believe that, as they have no honor.

9 posted on 12/21/2009 12:53:56 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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SNIPPET from post no. 1:

"So the Democrats continue on course to draw their samurai swords and “die with honor”. While I’m OK to see them do this (electorally and politically, of course), I fear that the price of seeing them go down will be higher than the United States of America can handle."

10 posted on 12/21/2009 1:02:08 AM PST by Cindy
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To: ICE-FLYER; nutmeg
Once the government switch is on there is no turning it offf as it is power to the politicians, however, I see this one as not only vulnerable but an issue that will cause the political death of the left...its the tipping point we have been waiting for.

They'll be dead for at least a while, IMHO. They're zombies unaware of the damage that they're causing. Their arrogance leaves them truly clueless about human nature. They believe primary care docs will be fools or saints just for them. Their ignorance is quite amazing.

11 posted on 12/21/2009 1:23:55 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: ICE-FLYER

there is the simple fiscal reality. We just don’t have the money to pull off a major govt expansion. Look at China vs Obama during Copenhagen.


12 posted on 12/21/2009 1:41:44 AM PST by ari-freedom (Global warming is the biggest scientific hoax since the Piltdown man.)
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To: Psalm 144

“Franky, I think the USA will collapse into bankruptcy and dissolution as did the USSR. It will all end then.”

And the sooner the better. Then hit the “Reset” button.


13 posted on 12/21/2009 2:59:22 AM PST by CapnJack
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To: DTogo

Actually the correct term is Seppaku.


14 posted on 12/21/2009 3:06:53 AM PST by fuzzybutt
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To: Psalm 144
Franky, I think the USA will collapse into bankruptcy and dissolution as did the USSR. It will all end then.

With what has been set in motion by this and previous Admins, there is only one way to go, our financial path is unsustainable. But, there are many groups filling with patriotic Americans that are preparing themselves... Luck Always Favors The Prepared.

Alarm and Muster – The Modern Day Call Tree for Emergency Preparation.

Alarm and Muster – The document that started a movement.

15 posted on 12/21/2009 3:26:05 AM PST by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: neverdem
"...They'll be dead for at least a while, IMHO. They're zombies unaware of the damage that they're causing...Their ignorance is quite amazing...."

They get refreshed every four years—with Collegians.

:-\

16 posted on 12/21/2009 3:50:18 AM PST by Does so (ObamaCare...I pay for medical-marijuana claims by millions of Americans?)
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To: ICE-FLYER

“...its the tipping point we have been waiting for.”
Correct.
We have them precisely where we want them, in control of everything except our minds. They have nowhere to hide. This is the left’s Waterloo.


17 posted on 12/21/2009 4:20:50 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (He is the son of soulless slavers, not the son of soulful slaves.)
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To: Darnright

Members of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party stuck with Hitler till the end.

They hoped to become Teutonic overlords and the vision caused them to go insane and pass insane legislation. This delusion killed Germany before Hitler did.

We need a second American-style Nuremberg tribunal, featuring swift punishment, to expose these fascists to Americans who are still not paying attention.


18 posted on 12/21/2009 5:14:03 AM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Boucheau

Any Republican running in 2010 should vow to vote to repeal this healthcare monstrosity before it takes effect. What’s been collected so far should be returned to the taxpayers or applied to the debt.


19 posted on 12/21/2009 5:59:16 AM PST by Inwoodian
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To: Darnright

btt


20 posted on 12/21/2009 6:32:30 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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