Posted on 11/05/2009 8:54:48 PM PST by Saije
Fearing that a gunman who killed 11 people at a military facility in Texas may have been Muslim, US Islamic groups were bracing themselves for a public backlash against the faith today.
Soon after Pentagon officials named one of the shooters at the Fort Hood facility as Nidal Malik Hasan, Islamic groups rallied to condemn an act President Obama had earlier described as a "horrific outburst of violence".
"The guy's name is a Muslim name," Ibrahim Hooper of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) told AFP, expressing fears about damage to inter-faith relations, already strained by the September 11 attacks, and wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
In a statement, CAIR condemned the shootings as a "cowardly attack" adding that "no political or religious ideology could ever justify or excuse such wanton and indiscriminate violence.***
Qaseem Ali Uqdah, who was a Marine for 21-years before becoming the Executive Director at American Muslim Armed Forces and Veterans Affairs Council, now fears a "witch-hunt" like that which followed September 11, 2001.
"This is a criminal act and we have to treat it like a criminal act, not something to do with religion" he told AFP.
For the estimated 3500 Muslims in the US armed forces, Uqdah said there could be some fallout from the attack.
"What we don't need is people downrange sitting in foxholes (in Afghanistan or Iraq) questioning if you are a Christian, if you are a Muslim or if you are a Jew... that is not what we need as a nation.
"We need to fight the war on terror together," he added.
In a Pew survey published last September, 38 per cent of respondents said that Islam encouraged violence more than other religions.
Fifty-eight per cent said there was a lot of discrimination against Muslims in the United States.
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It’s not his Muslim name but his Muslim religion that drives him to commit atrocities.
Maybe they should become Christians.
Everyone does their best to ignore the 8000 pound elephant in the room
Well they did declare war on us.
There wasn't a "public backlash" against Muslims after 9/11 (except for that unfortunate Sikh murdered by a knuckledragging moron). Doubt there will be a "public backlash" tomorrow.
“...expressing fears about damage to inter-faith relations, already strained by the September 11 attacks, and wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.”
...not to mention calling Christians and Jews “apes” and “pigs,” and having a “holy book” that urges Islam’s adherents to kill the “infidels” who do not believe Mohammed was a greater prophet than Moses and Jesus.
I can’t imagine why those “inter-faith relations” aren’t going well, Ibrahim.
Sun rises in the east. Sun sets in west. Muslim commits act of savagery. Reporter writes story about Muslims fearing backlash. Yawn.
The shooter’s father was born in ‘Palestine’ in 1946. Lovely. Yet more American blood on their hands. Robert F. Kennedy in 1968. U.S. Ambassador in Khartoum in 1973. Leon Klinghoffer in 1986.
>>”What we don’t need is people downrange sitting in foxholes (in Afghanistan or Iraq) questioning if you are a Christian, if you are a Muslim or if you are a Jew... that is not what we need as a nation.”
Well..I’m sure the Jew and the Christian wont go nuts and attempt to shoot me while in the foxhole. However, the “other” religion of so-called “peace”..
Here we go again...we’re the victims boohoo.
Unless they do, they have no business in the U.S. military, intelligence services, or FBI.
B-o-o. H-o-o.
Of course it is. Muslims are now the victims.
More whining about a mythical anti-muslim backlash. Pretty tasteless how this comes out just hours after another muslim slaughter of innocents.
“The guy’s name is a Muslim name, . . .”
They are right. This proves nothing. Just last century, there was a quaker guy named “Mohammed.”
When your “god” is Satan and your #1 dude is a pedophile and your religion is responsible for 90% of all wars in the world, why would you be worried?
Don't worry, the President will be out to apologize to you for any inconvenience before a joint session of Congress first thing in the morning. There will also be mandatory Islamic Diversity and Sensitivity Orientation (ISDIVSOR) for all newly entering servicepersons to make sure no Religion of PeaceTM adherents are driven to kill twelve people by meanies in the US military again.
A much overdue backlash by Americans would be a welcome sight.
Better safe than sorry.
When our people who helped liberate millions from Saddam--who even those against the war agree was a tyrant--were hung from bridges to dancing and applause, we didn't turn on the Muslims in our midst.
I just wish some of these folks would stand up and say they are part of US instead of always worrying about their little unit with the USA...something no one who considers himself an American ever worries about. We didn't think 9/11 was only about New York.
If these folks ever want to wonder why they even have these unfounded fears, they might want to think about the way Americans treat non-Americans in our midst, as compared to how folks from back home treat outsiders.
What "witch hunt," exactly?
And yes, Muslim terrorism does have something to do with religion. Not all Muslims are terrorists, but some are, and a large minority percentage actually support terrorism in support of their religion.
When a Southern Baptist, or a Mormon, or a Catholic, or a Jew, or a Mennonite commits murder, do those groups immediately talk of fearing reprisals? Why not?
“..US Islamic groups were bracing themselves for a public backlash against the faith today.”
These idiots who say they welcome the chance to be martyrs don’t need to worry. Each one of them already has reservations at Satan’s Holiday Inn on the Burning Lake. Hey guys, take aloe lotion with you when you blow yourselves up.
Muslims kill people and the rest of us are required to be worried about anti-Muslim backlash. This is maddening.
You can’t really blame soldiers for suspecting other Muslim soldiers. This incident, as well as the one in Iraq where the Muslim soldier tossed a hand grenade into his fellow soldier’s tent, only proves that some people cannot be trusted - EVER!
It might be a good idea to take those few thousand Muslims in the US service out and do an intense screening process including their origins, mosques attended, reading materials and posting contents. The ACLU and our current CIC won’t let that happen, I know, but how is this going to affect moral? How can anybody in the military feel safe even in their own country? My God, they sacrifice so much for their country and now they can’t be sure a fellow soldier AT HOME isn’t going to shoot them?
Something has to be done and it sure as hell isn’t a good time for that “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy change!
I can think of many ways to ease their grief. The best one might be to tell their constituents to stop going nuts and drop their death wish.
There might, however, be a chorus of accusations from the Dems and media elites and the likes of CAIR that there is a backlash, but more folks than ever have learned better than to believe them.
That said, if a soldier makes comments that (if I understand news reports correctly) align his or her sympathies more with an enemy than with us, then we should be free to find this person unfit to serve (without fears about labels of "profiling").
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Nope, just the ones who are stupid enough to wish our troops or our citizens harm.
They defend the behavior, they refuse to condemn in PUBLIC the Islamic terrorist thugs... they NEVER condemn the Jihad calls from the Islamic leaders...
I've got news for the muzzies... ask the japanese what happens when we get p#ssed off. Not just the nukes. Ask them what we did in THIS COUNTRY to them.
This limp d#ck, PC protected Islamic p#ssy was KNOWN to have harbored Islamic sympathetic opinions and STILL was in the military.
The Marine Corps and the Army have been MADE to toe the PC line with security risk that muzzies present all in the good name of kneeling to the Political and Liberal masters in the Pentagon and Dept of Justice.
know your enemy and destroy it before it destroys you. How many time has this happened now.. mass murders, terrorists acts and who is doing this... Islamic backgrounds or socialist/communist background.
But don't worry, all the movies will have CHRISTIAN conservatives as the bad men.... All the new investigations will be of White hate crimes by our Dept of Justice.. especially under the TOFUS who resides in the White House now.
Oh, that's right Barak Hussein Obama is a Christian name... or is that Irish Catholic.. or maybe Amish.. that's right it's Amish.
Hmmm, hhmmmm , mmmmm...
I missed the Muslim demonstrations against beheadings and hanging Americans from bridges.
What is that stoning to death of raped women that the Sharia law endorses?
Someone needs to get over hear and educate us about how peaceful the Muslim faith is. Because all I get is that propaganda piped to us from Muslims in the MSM about how me and my family are infidels. Otherwise, “Muslim leaders” come out of the wood work to decry atrocities such as this and announce their concern for a backlash.
It’s unfair that 99% of the adherents to the “religion of peace” are allowed to give the other 1% a bad name.
They should tell their fellow Muslims to stop the killing. If they would do that, they wouldn’t have to fear a backlash.
Nothing a few ALCM’s delivered to Mecca couldn’t solve.
Then we could call it evens.
RE: Post #22
Very salient points and my thoughts exactly. I am so sick and tired of Americans being labeled bigots. This is the most diverse and culturally sensitive place on the planet.
How long would I last as a white American male in Syria, Egypt, etc.?
I would actually like to see some folks get a little riled up now and then. It might inspire some leadership of the Muslim faith to start demonstrating some patriotism and solidarity among “fellow” Americans here in the US.
>There wasn’t a “public backlash” against Muslims after 9/11 (except for that unfortunate Sikh murdered by a knuckledragging moron). Doubt there will be a “public backlash” tomorrow.<
Damn right there was no backlash.
A guy with the middle name Hussein was elected President.
The masses have Stockholm Syndrome.
Next thing they’ll say, “Hey, let’s have shariah law! That’d be cool!”
"We need to fight the war on terror together," he added.
Here is a very good link about why Muslims become terrorists: Understanding Muslims: From Freedom to Guilt to Jihad. I like all the author's (Dr. Ali Sina) writings.
When I see these morons overseas screaming and shouting "Death to America!" I have to think they disrespect us for NOT acting in similarly barbaric fashion at times like this. But that, of course, is why we are different. Many of us believe in the one thing that separates us from them--the belief in our value as individuals, which means the belief in personal responsibility for actions. We hate individual perpetrators, not those who are linked to them only by the accident of birth.
I look at their childish, animalistic behavior, and then at our response in similar times, and I feel, once again, superior. :)
I think it is. I wouldn't want to be downrange from a Muslim, but a Christian or a Jew would be ok. And my guess is that most Jews wouldn't fear being down range from a Christian, but would a Muslim.
I have tried to believe that. But I have known a handful of Muslims and asked two of them about what their faith teaches. I didn't get the idea they completely understood Jihad. Neither of the two spoke in absolutes about condemnation of Jihad and murder of innocents in the name of it or of what/who was an infidel.
I give up on giving the benefit of the doubt. I want a Muslim peace movement from Muslims in this country and around the world that rivals the civil rights movement or the Anti-war movement of the 50's and 60's. I want to see Egypt and Pakistan go Jihad on "Extremists" of their own faith. Shut up and put your A$$ out there and take action. Otherwise Muslims in America should crawl back to the safety and security of their own homes protected by our laws and constitution, face the east and thank Allah they live in America.
What a steaming pile of crap. Not one sincere word of compassion for the victims. Not one sincere condemnation of the terrorist act. (FR’s resident RINOS, softies, and trolls, note use of the word “sincere”). Just a lot of “WAHHHH, we Muslims are the real victims here. The evil imperialist boogeyman is out to get us!”
Instead of whining about a nonexistent backlash, maybe the terrorist organization called CAIR should try showing a little gratitude and respect for the country called America that has given them so much, including physical protection, religious freedom, quotas, affirmative action, pro-Islamic sensitivity training for the infidels, hate-crime laws that protect Muslims uber alles, never being singled out for searches at airports, etc. None of which they are worthy of. Our Republican politicians call Islam a “religion of peace” and our Democrats go even further, giving Muslims credit for things they didn’t invent and implying that they’re our superiors. Yet even with all this ass-kissing, Muslims still hate our guts. It’s time to end this Islamo-worship. The next time those CAIR types get whiny and play the victim card, we should just say, “Go stick it where the sun don’t shine, you neo-Nazis. You’re going to hate us no matter what, so why should we kiss your ass?”
Of course there will be talk about “good Muslims.” “But some Muslims won’t kill us!” Yes, and some rattlesnakes won’t bite you. But playing with a rattlesnake is still stupid, just like trusting a Muslim. You never know when Sudden Jihad Syndrome will rear its ugly head and your friendly Muslim neighbor who “always seemed so nice” massacres a bunch of schoolgirls in the name of Allah.
Islam is the common enemy of every civilized human being on the planet. It is utterly incompatible with modern civilization, human rights, individual liberties, and a republican form of government. Those “Americans” who would side with Islam over their own country, whether they personally practice Islam or not, are traitors and deserve nothing less than the noose.
Obama is trying to get the medias to do damage control,,, but how do you explain Islams march for the last fourteen hundred years? How do you explain Iran today celebrating death to America? And their desire with a hand full of other nations who want a caliphate? And the Taliban reaching out with a threat to Australia today? on and on....
Islam? Definitely the religion of peace! ... once they have conquered all
And guess what? Our leader is a muslim.
go figure.
As they should...
Can we do that to Barry Sorento aka Barak Hussein Obama? Also, isn’t a name change like that a sign of conversion to Islam as an adult? Hmmm, don’t think the jihadists have much to worry about in the backlash department.
Funny they are ALWAYS worried about a backlash that never comes. Maybe the problem IS US. There should be a backlash about Muslims in the military or high government positions.
Funny they are ALWAYS worried about a backlash that never comes. Maybe the problem IS US. There should be a backlash about Muslims in the military or high government positions.
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